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Category:Belgian Promotion

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:22, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename. The old name Belgian 'Promotion' was a sloppy translation from the Dutch for 'bevordering', while the level is more commonly known as vierde klasse, which translates to fourth division. All the articles have already been renamed from Belgian Promotion to Belgian Fourth Division, only the category is still unchanged... Pelotastalk|contribs 20:33, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:English deities (and its two childcategories)

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:23, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The rename is in line with the parent category Category: Anglo-Saxon paganism and in line with List of Anglo-Saxon deities. But it should be noted that this nomination is in contrast to a CfD decision from 2009, in which Anglo-Saxon gods was merged into English gods. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:46, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Rename as nominated. Editor2020 16:09, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Rename to "Angle and Saxon deities" because the Angles and Saxons weren't united for the periods in which these deities were believed in, either. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:02, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: is that really so? Can't really find this back in Anglo-Saxons. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:30, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: You didn't really try and find out, methinks. See Angles#Anglian_kingdoms_in_England. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:34, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest, I had read this too, but the text of Angles#Anglian_kingdoms_in_England is much shorter and not any more informative than the text of Anglo-Saxons. If I understand the latter correctly, the merger of Angles and Saxons must have taken place long time before the oldest reliable source (731) mentions them to have migrated to current England. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:06, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think there is a reasonable amount of consensus on the whereabouts of Anglo-Saxons but not (so much) about separate Angles and Saxons. So then we rather need reliable sources about the separate Angles and Saxons, that also need to be included in the respective WP articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:06, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:24, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I've been working a fair bit in this topic area and I believe the documentary film category should diverge a bit from one of the parents, Category:LGBT-related films by genre, so as to follow the standard documentary construction, "Documentary films about foo," which some of its subcategories already use. I also think the limitation of the current category name became more evident in my recently created subcat Category:LGBT-related documentary films about religion‎, where I think the "LGBT" part of it should really be next to "religion," as in Category:LGBT topics and religion, and not at the beginning of the name, relegated to a "-related" status. And the proposed name might only be the top-level category, I've no objection to creating a biographical LGBT documentary subcat of some kind, if needed. I hope I've been clear. If this nom is successful, I'd rename the religion subcats speedily and accordingly, after. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:25, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete "about" category purely subjective. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support rename Dividing media by topic is a common and useful categorisation tool. (Please nominate Category:Works by topic for deletion if you feel "about" categorises are unworkable). This change encourages better and more specific categorisation as LGBT should be the central topic of the film, not just a element as "-related" precludes. The same applies for similarly named categories and I will support those as separate nominations. Note some content trimming may be needed if it only is slightly related to the topic, and not specifically about the topic. SFB 18:29, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, I'm sorry, but while I've grown accustomed to delete votes from Carlossuarez46, this one is just absurd. The reason I prefer to work on documentary films almost exclusively these days is that they are generally, quite literally, about a topic. There's nothing subjective about it. And a rename might help us to prune any instances where that is not the case, where it is only more vaguely related to LGBT issues or people (though I can't think of any offhand). Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:37, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I can't think of any specific examples offhand either, though I can imagine the kind of scenario where "vaguely related to LGBT but not in a defining way" might come up: frex, a documentary film whose core subject is the environment, but which somebody wants to add to this category because its narrator, or a prominent environmentalist involved in the production, is an openly LGBT person. Bearcat (talk) 20:53, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Or even trickier and perhaps more likely, a biodoc about about a person where they are LGBT, but that is not central to the film. But that's a very different animal about an LGBT topic. In fact, I should probably back off a hypothetical I raised in the nomination, and say that I for one have no intention of creating a 'Biographical documentary about LGBT persons," and that not what this nom is about, at all. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:01, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:East Ukraine

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:48, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See also CfD Western Ukraine Marcocapelle (talk) 06:24, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Only one entry. Unneeded categorization. NickSt (talk) 17:53, 18 August 2014 (UTC) NickSt (talk) 17:53, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Marcocapelle. Also sounds like a politically motivated creation. Laurel Lodged (talk) 22:30, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- I am also dubious of the merits of splitting Ukraine into Eastern and Western. The possible distinction is that the West has Catholics, due to the area having once been Polish, while the East is purely Orthodox, having longer been part of the Russian Empire. However, if the presaent conflict does not break up Ukraine, I suspect that there will be a strong effort to integrate East and West. My reaction is therefore to leave alone and await the outcome of events. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:05, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment According to the map in Eastern Ukraine, there is more than east and west, there is also south and center. The problem is that these four regions are neither historical regions, nor current administrative units. The article doesn't mention what this division of Ukrain in four regions is based on. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – We already have categories for the various oblasts. This category isn't serving any purpose that can't be served by existing categories. The "eastern/western/southern/central" designations are for geographical purposes only, and have no administrative or historical significance. I also agree with deletion for Category:Western Ukraine. RGloucester — ☎ 01:48, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per RGloucester. Besides, there is no such entity as East Ukraine, as there was with East Germany. It's merely a geographical connotation. § DDima 17:37, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:KS Vllaznia Shkodër seasons

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The result of the discussion was: administrative close: speedily deleted. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:39, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: no contest, probably will never be filled Koppapa (talk) 10:02, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Active Jewish NFL Players

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:42, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Being an active player is not a permanent characteristic of a person. DexDor (talk) 05:43, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People executed for refusing to convert to Christianity

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The result of the discussion was: procedural close as category page was not tagged. – Fayenatic London 21:55, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Small category, two people here whom are already rightfully classified in Category:People executed by the Portuguese Inquisition and Category:People executed by the Spanish Inquisition respectively. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:19, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • The category is potentially much bigger. How about all the Jews that were killed? All the pagans? All the people killed in the conquest of the Americas? Editor2020 03:02, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
    • Not all killing is equivalent to executing, so that narrows the scope of this category. Besides there is the motive in the category name. The only case I know of in which refusal of non-Christians to convert to Christianity was the explicit motive for execution is the acts of Inquisition after the Alhambra Decree, of which the two people currently in the category are an example. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So you are specifying judicial execution only. Delete. Editor2020 16:04, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Keep since we're intent on keeping a slew of "executed people" categories, why they were executed seems to be their claim to notability. Would either of these people be notable but for their refusal to convert and subsequent execution? Methinks, not really. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:05, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Denmark, Maine

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The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic London 15:10, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Small community with just 3 entries. ...William 01:42, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Baldwin, Maine

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. – Fayenatic London 15:11, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Small community with just three entries. ...William 01:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep part of an established category tree for all towns in Cumberland County, Maine. Nearly every town and city in Cumberland County has or had a 'people from...' category. A couple were deleted, but if the vast majority have it, I think it makes sense for all to have, not just 95%.--TM 11:14, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Category now has 5 entries. Obvious potential for growth.--TM 13:22, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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