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November 22

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 22, 2023.

Life Speaks to Me (lyric video)

Redundant redirect from an implausible search term. With extremely rare exceptions on the order of "Thriller", a music video would virtually never qualify for its own standalone article as a separate topic from the song that it's the music video for, and lyric videos (which absolutely anybody can make and post to YouTube at any time whether it's "official" or not) have an even weaker prospect of independent notability than narrative videos do -- but since Life Speaks to Me is already a redirect to the same place as it is, there's no compelling reason at all why the lyric video would need its own separate redirect distinct from the song's redirect. Bearcat (talk) 16:17, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. There is information about a lyric video for "Life Speaks to Me" at the target, even if not much, so someone using this plausible search term is going to find the information we have. I wouldn't recommend routinely creating redirects such as this, but I see no justification for deletion if someone does create them. Thryduulf (talk) 10:41, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:36, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish Nazi

Delete as the Three Pashas have no link to Nazism. Omnibenevolence (talk) 23:26, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As you say, it's not even an appropriate redirect to that section of the article. Further, it is a singular redirect (Nazi, not Nazis). This shouldn't even be a redirect, I would say creating "Category:Turkish nazis" would be more precise, but "Category:Turkish collaborators with Nazi Germany" already exists. Omnibenevolence (talk) 23:42, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bharat(India)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Bharat (India), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 19:16, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per Steel1943. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:21, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per pageviews; missing a space in English is a very common mistake in India so this redirect has seen fairly significant viewership. Helpful. RDAB is but a presumption that these redirects are unhelpful, proven untrue in this instance. J947 † edits 23:04, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 05:30, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as typical WP:RDAB. The only reason it's popular is because Search lists it before the correct version with a space. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:15, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    It doesn't for me on Vector 2010 nor logged out on Vector 2022. J947 ‡ edits 23:39, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 10:30, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bayport(The Hardy boys)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to lack of space between the title and the disambiguator. However, the title that matches this title with the proper spacing, Bayport (The Hardy boys), does not exist, but the title with the proper capitalization and spacing, Bayport (The Hardy Boys), does exist and targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 18:07, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete it was an article for several minutes in 2013 without any useful content and edit history has been moved anyway. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:36, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:RDAB. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 19:46, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Leviathan(myhtology)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to both lack of a space between the title and the disambiguator, and the misspelled disambiguator "myhtology" (should be "mythology".) Steel1943 (talk) 18:01, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reliant K

I'm curious if it's more likely that people searching for the band Relient K would use this alternative spelling. The target page notes that the car has been referred to as "Reliant K" and currently has a hatnote to the band. The redirect originally went to the band in 2009, then was switched to the car the following day. It has not been updated since. I think it would be better to switch the targets. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 17:16, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - I think it is about equally likely to apply to either; fourteen years in the same place suggests some consensus for keeping it there; stability is typically a positive. The hatnote at Plymouth Reliant suffices in my eyes.  Mr.choppers | ✎  18:31, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - appropriate hatnotes will make readers know which pages they should read should they initially go to the wrong page. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 20:56, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:SMALLDETAILS. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 00:16, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Change - As someone who was looking for the band, my vote would be to change it to a disambiguation page. 2601:281:CF82:880:5DD7:935B:FA1F:B17D (talk) 17:26, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pepe's

This redirect feels too broad. A Google search shows multiple Mexican restaurants with this name, as well as this pizzeria. The other restaurants don't have Wikipedia pages (at least not yet), but I'm curious if people searching for 'Pepe's' will typically be searching for this pizzeria in New Haven, Connecticut. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 15:56, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment if this is kept, then the target needs a hatnote to Pepe (disambiguation). Thryduulf (talk) 17:06, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I don't think any of the items in the disambiguation page other than the notable pizza restaurant (now chain in multiple US) are referred to as "Pepe's" ever. Since we don't have any articles about (or probably even discuss) other restaurants named Pepe('s) a search result won't help readers about that. And "Pepe's" is a pretty common way to refer to the restaurant in the markets it exists and pizza world. So keep redirect and adding a redirects here hatnote probably makes sense. Skynxnex (talk) 14:42, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The redirect from Pepe's to Frank Pepe Pizzeria Napoletana is specific and precise, not broad. "Pepe's" is not the official name of the business (please see historical and current photos that have printed signage displaying FRANK PEPE PIZZERIA NAPOLETANA). Pepe's is a common way to refer to the restaurant in the Connecticut market - however, with the expansion across the Eastern US, those may not understand that Pepe's is the same business as Frank Pepe Pizzeria Napoletana. 2600:6C60:140:2E:3C5D:B008:9264:C91D (talk) 15:39, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DDDD

Literally no reason for this to redirect here. Delete TypoEater (talk) 15:56, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gel guards

Delete. Non-notable alien; the original citation is archived here. Karl 334 (talk · contribs) redirected the page to a list in 2013, but the entry for the creature on the target page at that date was just "Main: The Three Doctors",[1] and he did not merge any info. If not deleted, the merge target should be The Three Doctors (Doctor Who), but that article now says merely "UNIT headquarters faces an attack by shapeless blob-like creatures", not naming them "Gel Guards" as in the BBC citation. – Fayenatic London 10:48, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page histories?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:35, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete or Add: The critters are no longer listed on the target page. As such, the redirect should be deleted or the critters should be added back to the list. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 17:09, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Emergency Meeting

The term "Emergency Meeting" is not limited to Among Us, and this would be a confusing target for anyone who searches the term and knows nothing about the game. It's also not a particularly useful redirect – I highly doubt people are searching Emergency Meeting on Wikipedia looking for information on how the mechanic works in-game. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 09:22, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Extraordinary general meeting, possibly with hatnote to Among Us. Somewhat tentatively. We could do with or without the hatnote (it would look Weird but would be somewhat helpful IMO). I don't think there's enough fuel for a dab page here. J947 † edits 09:34, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • My first thought was not Extraordinary general meetings, but things like COBRA committee meetings for national emergencies. Quite what the best target for that would be I'm not sure. Thryduulf (talk) 11:44, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. When you search "Emergency Meeting" on Google, stuff about Among Us appears. A hatnote to Extraordinary general meeting would be nice though. SouthParkFan2006 (talk) 11:48, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    That's actually because of this redirect. We control the Internet. Append -wikipedia to your search and most of the Among Us stuff disappears. J947 † edits 22:06, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I tried it and yes, most stuff that appears is still about Among Us. SouthParkFan2006 (talk) 07:17, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    This may depend on your search history, too. My first page in the search has two pages about Among Us, but two of the first three are definitions, one from Reporter's Committee for the Freedom of the Press and one from Collins Dictionary. My first search page also has several news stories about emergency meetings called for various reasons. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 15:06, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Interesting. I use Ecosia and get nothing at all about Among Us until page two. Most results are news stories and articles. Even Andrew Tate's podcast shows up before Among Us stuff. I'm not sure if Ecosia uses user data to alter its results, but I know I have certainly consumed more Among Us content than Andrew Tate content. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 18:41, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Extraordinary general meeting per above and definitely add hatnote for Among Us, which mentions the gameplay element several times and gives details. We do indeed control the front page of most search engines. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 23:14, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Extraordinary general meeting with a hatnote per J947 and CopperyMarrow15. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 15:03, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete at this capitalisation, which infers a proper name. Emergency meeting is a redlink (quite properly: it's vague and ambiguous). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:35, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:CAPINYOASS

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was speedy delete (G7). Patently inappropriate. — Fox 13:43, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm all for derogatory shortcuts to some of our more toxic processes and noticeboards, but this one advocates violence. Please don't shoot the vandals. Blocking's sufficient. —Cryptic 06:48, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Bagua/Hsing-i

Delete: this redirect is not unambiguous. "Bagua" refers to baguazhang, and "Hsing-i" is a shortened form of the Wade-Giles transcription of xingyiquan. So redirecting anywhere doesn't make a lot of sense. SilverStar54 (talk) 05:11, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 08:17, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also notified of this discussion at the proposed target talk.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 06:08, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Bagua and Hsing-I are very different martial arts, associated only because they are internal styles (neijia), and are described in separate Wikipedia articles: baguazhang and xingyiquan. Also I don't agree with this idea of pointing this to wudangquan as suggested in a comment above, as the history is debatable. Neijia would be better, but it's best to simply delete this. Jōkepedia (talk) 18:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All work and no play

I think that this should redirect to the proverb All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy because it is often shortened this way. —Panamitsu (talk) 04:30, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget per nom, with hatnote. J947 † edits 09:36, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Baring the ampersand this is an exact match for the title of the target and there is a hatnote to the proverb. If this is retargetted though there needs to be a hatnote to the album. Thryduulf (talk) 11:48, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

John-John

This redirect is too vague to be valuable. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 04:19, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Totally Spies! 4: Autour de Monde

The correct name is Totally Spies! 4: Around the World (which is mentioned in the target article), and I have already created a redirect for that. However, the French name "Totally Spies! 4: Autour de Monde" is not mentioned anywhere in the target article. So, the redirect from the French name should be deleted. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:53, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mythology of Kosovo

Deletion - redirect suggest mythology of the state or region of Kosovo, meanwhile the target is about Serbian nation-building myth Marcelus (talk) 22:05, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Edward-Woodrow (talk) 00:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or retarget?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 00:09, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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