Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 6

December 6

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 6, 2023.

Aseguradores de la calidad

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 16#Aseguradores de la calidad

Cultural language

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:24, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cultural language → North Korean standard language (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No connection to the North Korean language. Term is too basic to be used as a redirect. Would support a retarget but not sure to where. Yoblyblob (talk) 19:45, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now per WP:REDLINK. Google search seems to point that this might be a potential article --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:59, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I doubt that this is a good redirect because all languages have cultural meaning. Insofar as there is one meaning it would be heritage language. There is little prospect of starting an article at this title, imo. (t · c) buidhe 08:21, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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StAr TrEk InTo DaRkNeSs

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The result of the discussion was keep. WP:snow (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 08:24, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

StAr TrEk InTo DaRkNeSs → Wikipedia Star Trek Into Darkness debate (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Unlikely search term, even if Xkcd used it: https://xkcd.com/1167/ Bremps... 17:54, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It is directly mentioned in the article, so it will certainly provide relevant information to anyone typing the term in the search window. Otherwise harmless. BD2412 T 18:02, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep xkcd using this means it is a likely search term, the target is unambiguous and mentioned in the article. Thryduulf (talk) 18:29, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, mentioned in article. at the worst is harmless. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 18:31, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per BD2412. Also a likely search term, given the number of xkcd fans. If we ever get the graph extension fixed, we should have all our graphs use hue/label as the first two variables. . Cremastra (talk) 21:04, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per all of the above. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:46, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Passive inhaling of tobacco smoke

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The result of the discussion was keep. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:07, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Passive inhaling of tobacco smoke → Passive smoking (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Newly created redirect with very unlikely search term. Left behind after a reverted page move. Sjö (talk) 10:07, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Far from being an unlikely search term this precise wording is used in medical and legal literature and thus a highly plausible search term. Thryduulf (talk) 12:36, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning keep. Accurate and harmless. BD2412 T 13:16, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep unambiguous, accurate, and actually exists as this exact phrase outside of Wikipedia. (GBook results for example [1].) Skynxnex (talk) 14:35, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep Not really a likely serch term, but could still be kept, as it was an old name of a page. SouthParkFan2006 (talk) 14:36, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's not actually the old name of a page, it was moved to this title for no longer than 2 minutes... yesterday. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:12, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Thryduulf. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:46, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral While the phrase isn't mentioned in the article as written, it can be inferred from the lead. I don't like the fact that it was unilaterally created by an undiscussed move, but could still be equivalent in definition. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:12, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I can't decide if this should be kept or not. It seems to be plausible, but very muchly borderline. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 17:26, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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SP-3000

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ^(talk) 20:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

SP-3000 → Fujifilm#Products (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at the target. Presumably a Fujifilm product, but I have no idea what kind, and I have not been able to find it on Wikipedia using the search function Felix QW (talk) 09:36, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

REtarget to Astell & Kern where the SP3000 is mentioned, until Fujifilm is updated to add the Fuji film scanner, then it can be turned into a disambiguation page -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 11:03, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Does this make sense despite the hyphen though? If it is retargeted, then one should somehow delink the occurrences at Commons that clearly refer to a Fuji product, as this is a redirect from a file metadata link. Felix QW (talk) 12:25, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File metadata links are generated automatically cannot be (easily?) unlinked AFAIA. Thryduulf (talk) 13:42, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Thryduulf: Do you know whether they will be redlinked or removed if we delete the redirect? I am having trouble finding any documentation on how these links are generated, on Commons or here. Felix QW (talk) 14:22, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
They are redlinked. After spending far longer than I intended poking around MediaWiki documentation I've discovered that, at least in theory, makes and/or models can be directed to specific places and (at least theoretically) unlinked by editing commons:Template:Exif-model-value or commons:Template:Exif-make-value, but this requires template editor permissions on Commons and seems unlikely to be something that should be done routinely. Thryduulf (talk) 15:28, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: For further input on the retargeting proposal.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:00, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just a clarification that I would still advocate deletion, since even on metadata file redlinks are better than reaching a page on which no information can be found. Retargeting seems problematic as long as the metadata file links can't be changed, and also unnecessary since SP3000 is not the same as the hyphenated SP-3000. Felix QW (talk) 08:25, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or retarget? Also notified of this discussion at the proposed target talk.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 09:47, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom since this is a file metadata redirect that should not target a non-Fujifilm target, and the current target is not useful. Jay 💬 02:39, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Toro Inoue

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The result of the discussion was Restore. with no prejudice to AfD. Jay 💬 02:42, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Toro Inoue → Sony Interactive Entertainment (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention in article Isla 🏳️‍⚧ 21:56, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Mainichi Issho for now where the character is mentioned. Target article requires some wikilove though --Lenticel ^(talk) 07:04, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:RFD#KEEP Point # 1. "Toro Inoue" has page history that includes a former article. I would also consider reverting it back to the article from August 11th, unless @Greenish Pickle! has a clear reason why the article isn't WP:GNG. The article had multiple citations from IGN & Gematsu and also has translations in at least 7 other languages. The article was also nominated for deletion on 26 November 2008 with the result of the discussion being keep (see talk page.) Referencer12 (talk) 07:23, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment would you prefer that this article be restored and then sent to AfD instead per WP:BLAR? The last deletion discussion was 2008 so sources and consensus might have changed now. --Lenticel ^(talk) 07:48, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 02:24, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget, keep or restore? Also notified of this discussion at the proposed target talk.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 09:43, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Restore without prejudice to AfD as a contested BLAR. Thryduulf (talk) 12:37, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Restore due to old article being moderately sourced, and no discussion took place before redirection. Yoblyblob (talk) 14:12, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Restore with no prejudice on sending it to Afd per WP:BLAR --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:02, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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IsO-8859-1

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:24, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IsO-8859-1 → ISO/IEC 8859-1 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Wonky capitalization, the other redirect that uses "IsO" in the title. This capitalization isn't in use as a variation, no incoming links, and ISO-8859-1 already exists. If the other is deleted this would be the final one. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 08:34, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Casssava breeding

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:24, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Casssava breeding → Cassava (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is an extra "s" in the word "cassava" (totaling 3 instead of 2), and its breeding is only marginally mentioned in the article. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 08:32, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete due to implausible misspelling. Yoblyblob (talk) 14:10, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:21, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:02, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: unlikely search term. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 07:46, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Deleeete per nom. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 17:27, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as an unlikely search term. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 17:41, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Tupinology

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 13#Tupinology

Important Folk Dances in Nagaland

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:24, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Important Folk Dances in Nagaland → Khiamniungan folk dances (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

"Important folk dances" is a subjective term. Most lists on Wikipedia don't self-identify through the means of redirects to describe itself as a set of "important items"; so I don't see how this would be different here. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 07:40, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Also, this is an unlikely search term. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:22, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 06:28, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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IsO 639:amc

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G7. The creator is explicitly OK with deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 14:10, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IsO 639:amc → Amawaka language (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Strange casing in the ISO prefix. Is one of only two redirects that do this on all of Wikipedia. The regular version with a full caps ISO 639:amc already exists. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 07:35, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly a mistake, it can be deleted ISO 639:amc is the correct one. Thank you! --Moyogo/ (talk) 07:39, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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All the Young Dudes disambiguation

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:24, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All the Young Dudes disambiguation → All the Young Dudes (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

A redirect to a disambiguation page... although the page in question is missing disambiguation brackets on either side. Does not seem to be needed in the meantime. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 07:31, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Malformed disambiguation. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:25, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete due to malformed disambiguation. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 07:46, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:RDAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:04, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Libry

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 13#Libry

Poopposting

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 13#Poopposting

Esos son Reebok o son Nike?

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:25, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Esos son Reebok o son Nike? → The Rhythm of the Night (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I am... conflicted to say the least on this one. This is not Reebok or nike; this title was created 3 months later, by a different user, for the same reason as the other it seems. Unlike the other title of "reebok or nike", this sentence has a bit more meat on its bones that is slightly closer sounding to the original lyric. But nevertheless, I don't think it would be a helpful redirect anyway and could likely be deleted.

I didn't even realize this existed when I made the first nomination at this RfD, and hence I'm conflicted. Different title, different creator, different creation day, and different RfD day. If someone is compelled to bundle this along with the other "reebok or nike" discussion, that's definitely understandable, although I'm not sure about the feasibility of doing so 7 comments later. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:26, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This explains it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KywKPORy7BQ Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:23, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this is hilarious, I'll give it that. However, it's still an obscure synonym. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:22, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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M2102J20SG (vayu)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 13#M2102J20SG (vayu)

Team room

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 13#Team room

Web of Science ID

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Cremastra (talk) 13:27, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Web of Science ID → Web of Science (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Web of Science ID (identifier) → Web of Science (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

A redirect that exists for what I assume to be usage in DOI or in other identifying manners, for Web of Science related resources. That being said, no pages link here on Wikipedia, and the main Web of Science article does not make any reference to the associated "Web of Science ID". In regards to precedent, another "(identifier)" redirect was recently deleted in a similar situation during this discussion. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:00, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as creator:

Web of Science article does not make any reference to the associated "Web of Science ID".

I don't think it's necessary for every page linked from an identifier template to have mention of an ID in it. For some examples, the majority of the templates linked from the catalog lookup link template don't link to anything about the identifier itself, but instead, the wikilink just leads to the page about the holding library or database. (e.g. Zbl (identifier) leads to zbMATH Open, Gale (identifier) leads to Gale (publisher), and EBSCOhost (identifier) leads to EBSCO Information Services, none of which have mention of the associated identifier on the target pages.)

These are no different than the Web of Science ID template linking to a redirect that points to the article Web of Science. And it has to lead through the redirect for the reasons laid out in the text of Template:R from identifier. So because it is required that identifier templates link through a page with the attached "(identifier)," at the very least, Web of Science ID (identifier) should be kept because that's what Template:Web of Science ID links through.

That being said, no pages link here on Wikipedia,

I only decided to make the Web of Science ID template after seeing how widely used it is on Wikidata. It has no transclusions as of yet, but if this ends with a keep, I can add WoS IDs to some journal articles, of which there are many cited on Wikipedia. It would be a waste to add the template to lots of citations, only for this RfD to end in delete, but there are nearly infinite possibilities of where links to this article via the template could come from.

About Web of Science ID, I don't have a scientific reason for this to be kept, it just felt weird to have the version with the appended parenthetical without this one, so I really have no objections to its deletion. BhamBoi (talk) 07:28, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above. SouthParkFan2006 (talk) 14:29, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep anyone looking for Web of Science ID will be pointed to the relevant database. The article doesn't need to mention the identifier for the redirect to make sense. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:20, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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LIst of FIVB Volleyball Men's World Championship qualifications (AVC)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 13#LIst of FIVB Volleyball Men's World Championship qualifications (AVC)

Haorder

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:25, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Haorder → Hoarding (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

A redirect with zero pageviews since its creation. This was made after Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 13#Dream haorders had been closed for a week as delete. Aside from creating multiple redirects with the same typo in the wake of an RfD closing as delete (alongside Haord), this too is an unlikely spelling and not even pointed in the right spot to begin with. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 04:42, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

what would be the right spot to point it to? Iljhgtn (talk) 13:14, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. If this exists, it should point to the same target as Hoarder (the title it is a misspelling of), i.e. Hoarding (disambiguation). However I agree that this is not a useful redirect, so should be deleted rather than retargetted. Thryduulf (talk) 14:15, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the precedent RfD as an unnecessary and costly redirect. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 07:45, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 03:23, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Two-dimensional space

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 13#Two-dimensional space