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Happy New Year, MSGJ!

Happy New Year!

MSGJ,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
— Amakuru (talk) 15:34, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good evening!

A notification popped up saying that You reviewed my draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Rolf_Laven

But it remains a draft; is there any way for You to confirm it? It is urgent, since Rolf Laven is nominated for an international award, which is why an English-wikipedia-version is urgently needed.

Thank you in advance! Abendtau (talk) 17:19, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

— Amakuru (talk) 15:34, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks and best wishes to you also @Amakuru — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:14, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake on Talk:Ding Hao

Really sorry for my mistake, and thanks for helping correct it! Would you suggest Start for this article? It seems quite marginal, and no sections with prose, but content seems sufficient. If yes, please help me remove the stub tag too. Sorry for my inability to judge the assessment! Timothytyy (talk) 12:39, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's borderline but I think it has moved past Stub. There is more than the minimum amount of content and it seems to be well referenced, so Start looks appropriate to me. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:13, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noted with thanks! Timothytyy (talk) 22:45, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Diff/1194374738

Is is this an issue? I can fix the class so that it's moved correctly, but it wouldn't be as easy to keep the invisible comment. — Qwerfjkl talk 17:05, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously the class is needed. I personally would not have an issue with the invisible comment, but other editors may prefer you to keep them in — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:49, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it's working in Special:Diff/1194701333 — Qwerfjkl talk 08:53, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I got excited when I saw you were already on "4". But then I saw the "." ! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:57, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While I was looking through the bot's edits, I saw Talk:.41 Swiss. This seems to have conflicting classes, but it's not in Category:Articles with conflicting quality ratings. Any idea why? — Qwerfjkl talk 09:34, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I created a category to track these (Category:Articles using WikiProject banner shell with empty class parameter) but it's not working yet. Basically it needs to look when the class parameter is empty and then check the rest of the page to see if class is defined in some other banner. I'll try and get that fixed soon. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:52, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think I have fixed this in the sandbox. To be clear, the class is not tracked as conflicting unless the PIQA class is actually defined and conflicts with one of the project ratings. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:10, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Harmonize ratings"

Please STOP doing this. The whole point of the ratings system is to allow different ratings, for importance but also for quality, for different projects. Otherwise there would be no need for each project to have the space for different ratings, would there? Johnbod (talk) 17:24, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:PIQA — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:47, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WikiProject Linguistics and Template:Etymology section

Do you think Template:WikiProject Linguistics and Template:Etymology section should be merged? There are currently 8 pages that have both templates.

On a related note, it's strange that Template:Etymology section isn't placed in Category:WikiProject banners with non-standard names or that those pages aren't in Category:Pages using WikiProject banner shell with duplicate banner templates. Gonnym (talk) 08:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	For almost single-handedly maintaining and improving Template:WPBS and Module:Banner shell, and being the main force behind the recent improvements to the assessment system. – `Hilst [talk]` 11:58, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for this, always appreciate shiny things! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:18, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

+1. Couldn't agree more. — Qwerfjkl talk 16:04, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your contribution! Kanashimi (talk) 22:00, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tracking categories for articles that require performing WP:PIQA

Is it possible for us to create categories to track articles that need to perform WP:PIQA containing the following types?

Called Module:WikiProject banner but does not contain {{WPBS}}.
Contains {{WPBS}} but sets the same class as {{WPBS}}.
Other types?

Kanashimi (talk) 21:59, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes of course. I will copy your message to Template talk:WikiProject banner shell if you don't mind — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:26, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Kanashimi (talk) 23:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

`|blpo=`

How should my bot handle this? See e.g. Special:Diff/1195670166 for how it handles it currently. For now I've modified the code so that it won't modify blp/living if blpo is present, to avoid conflicts. — Qwerfjkl talk 20:56, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well blp and blpo are not both required, but I'm not sure which one should take precedence — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm just going to leave blpo alone for now. — Qwerfjkl talk 17:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Script doc auto

Hi, I'm thinking of adding some features to to {{Script doc auto}}, eg. showing a note above gadget js pages to indicate which gadget the page belongs to, how many users the gadget has, etc. However, this is full-protected and is also listed on Wikipedia:Cascade-protected items. Wondering if you can lower the protection to TPE? It is used on the interface (MediaWiki:Clearyourcache), but only on top of script pages, so not sure if it counts as widely seen. – SD0001 (talk) 14:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think if it's in the interface then it's supposed to be fully-protected. But if you ping me when ready I can copy changes across? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:18, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've requested the edits at Template_talk:Script_doc_auto#Protected_edit_request_on_26_January_2024 and MediaWiki_talk:Clearyourcache#Protected_edit_request_on_26_January_2024. – SD0001 (talk) 09:32, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About Inactive WikiProject banners

What should we do with Inactive WikiProject banners? To remove or? Kanashimi (talk) 05:09, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Last time it was discussed, consensus was to leave them in place — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:11, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WiR

While I was only tangentially involved with the WiR TfD, I am glad to see that you have been able to find a solution that will hopefully make everyone happy. Primefac (talk) 08:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not really! We have made a little progress but no real consensus on the main issue of merging banners. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:11, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Gerda. Appreciate the thought — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:05, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Assistance with a new wikiproject

With all your expertise, Martin, you might be able help out with the new Wikipedia:WikiProject Electronic literature. Those who have created the project do not have very much experience with Wikipedia but would like to provide a sound basis for future expansion. As you can see from the project's talk page, there are two items which require attention:

The automatically created Category:Unknown-importance Electronic literature articles and Category:NA-importance Electronic literature articles need to be populated.
It would be useful to introduce automatic stats on article quality assessment (i.e. without importance) along the lines of WP Women or WP Norway.

Maybe creating facilities for quality assessment will resolve the category problems and also article alerts. I could try to work on this myself but would like to avoid any unintentional side effects. As up now there are only about 200 articles in the project, it should be easy to cover their quality assessment, in particular by including Class ratings in the banner shell environment. It would really be appreciated if you could help us out with these developments. But just let me know if you are tied up with other priorities.--Ipigott (talk) 10:29, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Module:Pagetype

FYI, after your changes to Module:Pagetype, we are now getting transclusions of missing sandbox and testcases pages like this one when someone makes an edit request. Probably not a huge deal since these requests should not be permanent, but I thought I would let you know. I fixed a larger problem here by simply flipping the logic of the "ifexist" and "is redirect" checks. Some other ones that just popped up that may be related are here and here which I think are caused by the banners on the archive pages. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:32, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see the same thing with a new transclusion of Template:Anchor/Archive index that wasn't there before. seems related. Frietjes (talk) 16:32, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think you check for title.exists first? Frietjes (talk) 16:34, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Does an exists check also cause a transclusion to be recorded? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:39, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

no, at least when I tested it this version and tested here. Frietjes (talk) 16:46, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, should be an easy fix then — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:47, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added an exists check at Module:Pagetype/sandbox#L-115 but according to my tests, it is still transcluding the subject page when it doesn't exist — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the check up, before the namespace and subpageText tests and that seems to work. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:16, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think my version did work actually - my sandbox still shows a link but not a transclusion, so I think this should be okay — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:50, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, seems fine. I added that to the main module. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:04, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Visual Display of Quantitative Information Barnstar
	With appreciation and thanks, this barnstar for creating sortable, yearly tables for Women in Red's editathons is for you Martin. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:16, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WIR/core

Is Template:WIR/core still needed? It's not linked to from anywhere. Gonnym (talk) 08:33, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nope - not used by the new version — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:59, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking though — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:51, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women articles with WPBS quality conflicts

I believe that some time ago, Martin, you asked me to help with women articles presenting conflicts. I believe there was a category on which this was based but all I could find was Category:Articles with conflicting quality ratings with over 20,000 entries. Can you help?--Ipigott (talk) 09:48, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At the moment, there is no way of breaking these down into different projects. (I don't think I recall what I asked you.) But that sounds like a good idea, for those projects that wish to help out. I will explore further and update with any progress. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:10, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It works very well for NPP, see User:SDZeroBot/NPP sorting/Culture/Biography/Women. Maybe your original request came so early on that it was possible to go through the list simply looking for women's names. I would certainly be happy to work on any conflicts associated with WP Women or WP Women's History.--Ipigott (talk) 15:12, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ipigott, you could try something like this PetScan query which uses category intersection with WikiProject Women in Red (feel free to swap out Women in Red for any other appropriate wikiproject), or this PetScan query which uses the wikidata property female (Q6581072). — Qwerfjkl talk 16:05, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately Special:Search/incategory:"Articles with conflicting quality ratings" articletopic:women doesn't seem to work. — Qwerfjkl talk 16:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The PetScan query works brilliantly, thanks Qwerjkl. It might be worth asking all active projects to have a look through these. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:26, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy 20th account birthday!

Hi, happy birthday to your 20-year-old user account! Ong Kai Jin (talk) 15:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]