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April 18

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 18, 2024.

Dougie (disambiguation)

The set index is not a disambiguation. I can only find Dougie as a dance, and Dougie (given name), but I can't find the 3rd. If you can't find the 3rd one, will this page be deleted or kept? 176.42.17.150 (talk) 16:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SpaceX Mars propellant plant

PROD'd by user:Ergzay, who states "Destination page no longer contains info regarding this and no page on Wikipedia exists for this. Best to return this to non-existence and let someone create it when it's needed." PROD can only be used on actual articles, so I'm moving this here as a courtesy. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 01:45, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't aware you couldn't use the template for this purpose. The documentation isn't very clear.
As to the matter at hand, even with the change in the redirect done by @N2e it still doesn't talk anything about a propellant plant. It looks like N2e did a bunch of editing to add some details quickly, but I'm not sure if this was just restoring old content that was previously deleted or not. It might get removed again given that that page has been pared down a ton from what it was because of low quality sourcing. Ergzay (talk) 02:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That target only has a passing mention of "SpaceX propellant plant", although it does go more in depth with propellant plants there. Going to the SpaceX specific article might be preferable for people that include "SpaceX" in the search term, although I don't mind either option. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:21, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was my interpretation (perhaps incorrect) that the section, while not written that well, was more or less entirely about the SpaceX plan. The last paragraph at least is entirely about it, not what I'd call a passing mention. A7V2 (talk) 22:40, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. SpaceX need for, and intent to place on Mars, propellant equipment is discussed at the target. There are clearly few details, but the notable SpaceX endeavor to build a Mars-capable large spacecraft is covered in hundreds of sources, and that spacecraft (now flying in a test program), will need the Mars-generated propellant to refill it on Mars making SpaceX discussion of the propellant facility also notable, as also shown by sources at the redirect target. N2e (talk) 10:56, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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User:Hornsea88

Unattributed WP:COPIES of Hornsea Pottery bizarrely changed to be exactly 8888 bytes long. Flounder fillet (talk) 15:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paramount Television International Studios

Per the outcome at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 3#Paramount Television International Studios, where incoming links were the hurdle straight after a page move, I've given it enough time for the actual targets and/or rdr targets to be sorted out. The reason or rationale is the same as its/the original listing. Intrisit (talk) 06:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Goulash (magazine)

This is a local(?) satirical(?) magazine published by a boarding school. Zero standalone notability, existed as two sentences that were BLAR'd immediately into the school it was published from. No mention of "goulash" anywhere at the target page. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No mention No redirect. To be honest, I doubt if this magazine is even real. Couldn't find anything in Jstor and Gscholar Ca talk to me! 15:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it's probably real, honestly, but just so local that it has no electronic archives, as many a student magazine do 😅 Utopes (talk / cont) 22:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Community of Geometry Dash

Nothing about a "community" mentioned, very unlikely to be a search term. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 11:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Muttering Idiot

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was speedy delete per criterion G10. Without describing what this insult refers to at the target, this is an unreferenced personal attack on a living person. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 08:51, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unmentioned, non-neutral name. Somehow did not get eviscerated within the last 9 years, but my guess is that there might have used to be a mention at the target page to substantiate this insult redirect, in reference to one time that it was used to refer to Balls in 2012. Without mention at the target, this redirect is offensive and does not offer value. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Modmin

No mention of this term at the target article. Almost assuredly has a plethora of other uses outside of... just Fark. The portmanteau of "mod" and "admin" is likely to come up in a number of other more relevant contexts related to moderation and administration. Cautiously though, this term has zero mentions on all Wikipedia, so I'm hesitant to just "retargeting and calling it good". Utopes (talk / cont) 06:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mimoid

No mention of this novel feature(?), aspect? mentioned at the target article. Has three other mentions on Wikipedia in different contexts, also Mimoides exists with a number of subarticles on species. Not currently a useful redirect without context at the target. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:53, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was linking it to the wrong page it was supposed to link to Aniara, not Solaris (novel).Mechachleopteryx (talk)
That might be typical, but it is the lack of mention of the word Mimoid in the article that made me make the redirect. If someone searchs for the term, they will be lead to the article. The solution is to mention them in the Article as they were a critical part of the book.
I understand that the book was written in Swedish, so other translators might have used a different word. If someone finds a different word used, but it is still unique to Aniara, then they could make a redirect to the article, where a standard term can be referred on.
If someone encounters the concept, it is highly likely that it is from Aniara and yet without the redirect, neither human nor bot would know that the word is associated with the book, and since as far as I know it is not associated with another novel. I had not fully completed reading the story yet when I made the link.
My intention is to add further discussion to the article, using the word, but I hoped the redirect would help others find the article. I also think it is worthy of an article in its own right, so if someone is really ambitious they can turn it into an article.
It doesn't refer to the moth. The reasons you are giving are why I made the redirect.
I don't think I need to make a list of all of the alien races and species that have a page on wikipedia. In the case where it doesn't refer to a dictionary word or a concept used in other novels, then it should be uncontroversial.
The moth name is pronounced meemo-eedays not mimoids, if someone types Mimoid I assume they are searching for the concept from Aniara, and it right now similarity search leads to you to the moth, when the page you are looking for is Aniara.
I think I might have directed it to the wrong page, it was supposed to link to Aniara not Solaris (novel).
Mechachleopteryx (talk)

Mental gymnastics

I had to do some serious mental gymnastics to wrap my head around why this redirect exists. Sure, some people may perform mental gymnastics when "they're uncomfortable from their beliefs being inconsistent and contradictory". A similar idea I feel could be people perform the act of running to get from Point A to Point B, although that doesn't make the "running" a good redirect to "pathfinding". It's a singular mean to the end, and not everyone that has cognitive dissonance is "performing mental gymnastics", and not everyone that does mental gymnastics has cognitive dissonance. Example: I'm fairly sure I'm performing mental gymnastics right now in an attempt to jump through the logical hoops that went into this redirect, and I don't think I'm too uncomfortable from cognitive dissonance. I believe I've come to understand why, although I don't think it's a great end-all-be-all redirect that takes people to the right location at 100% intentions every time. To me, I feel like Convergent thinking or Divergent thinking are what I would have associated mental gymnastics with, i.e. following along with someone's thought process jumping through hoops with twists and turns to an eventual endpoint. Also, "mental gymnastics" is not mentioned at the target article. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PanoramaMaker

There is no information about a panorama maker at the target stub, much less a brand called PanoramaMaker. Not currently a helpful redirect. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:25, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TotalMedia Theatre

No mention of TotalMedia or TotalMedia Theatre at the target article. This is not a helpful redirect as there is no content about this subtopic, and the stub for ArcSoft does not help enlighten readers here. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MediaImpression

No mention of MediaImpression at the target page. Neither this, nor "ArcSoft MediaImpression" are useful redirects in the article's current state, as we have no information at the stub for this subtopic. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manta (Unreal Tournament)

No character (?) that uses the name Manta appears at the target article; this does not appear to be a useful redirect in its current state. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Man’s red fire / flower

Pretty confused by this redirect; neither the word "man's", nor the phrase "red fire" appear at the target article. Not sure why someone would type this instead of the very likely alternative of searching for just "Fire"; this title does not seem useful as a redirect. Neither have any links or mentions on Wikipedia. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A man has fallen into a river in Lego City

A meme not mentioned at the target article. For anyone that wanted to read about Lego City, Lego City is the perfectly natural search term. Prefacing it with the meme line from the Lego City commercial implies an interest in the man falling into the river in Lego City. Unfortunately, the man is nowhere to be found in the river, much as this line is nowhere to be found in the article. Not a helpful redirect in the article's current form. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Making televsion

Implausible typo for the unmentioned search term of "Making television", which is already a roundabout way of reaching the target article. Errors in "avoided double redirects" are even more unlikely than errors in a page's actual title, and the misspelling coupled with the "making" verb pretense makes this too far out to salvage. Making television didn't use to exist, this probably could have been moved with redirect suppression as the original was initially aired as implausible in its former state. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Make Me A World

There is no mention of this imprint at the target article. "Make" and "A World" are not ever mentioned at the target article. As it stands, people who specifically search for the imprint instead of the publishing house itself are left without any context to the phrase that they typed in. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maha (cat)

There is no cat called "Maha" discussed at the target. Moreover, there is no character called Maha discussed there, or at the associated List of .hack characters. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Magnetic air car

No mention of anything about a magnetic air car at the general-ish page for hybrid vehicles. As it stands, if people really wanted to search for hybrid vehicles, one would have used that search term outright. Specifying a magnetic air car and ending up at a page about hybrid vehicles in general is not a useful redirect for readers as it currently stands. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:55, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - there's an article in the history about a theoretical compressed-air vehicle which used a magnetic motor to compress the air for propulsion, rather than needing to be refuelled with compressed air. It was not a hybrid vehicle by our definition as it had only one source of power for propulsion. It also was never built: there was some hype about it about 10 years ago (around the same age as the article) and some patents filed, but then it vanished. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 09:06, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fucktarded

Salt evasion of Fucktard. Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:36, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - I disagree that this is salt evasion, there was 5 years between the deletion of the salted title and the creation of the new one, and the creator never edited the original. The original page was salted because it was only being used for vandalism, while the new title was created explicitly with a target in mind. However, the term should be removed from the target: the one source given that's not paywalled happens to mention the word, but with no context other than an odd story about gluten sensitivity. Wikipedia is not censored but we are also not offensive for no reason; maybe Fucktard could be recreated as a Wiktionary redirect (wikt:fucktard exists) but this modified title should be deleted. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 09:15, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Insurance goal

Not mentioned at the target page. Tea2min (talk) 15:08, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hockey bag

Not mentioned anymore at target page Glossary of ice hockey terms. (Which used to say "a duffel bag for hockey equipment" but was cleaned up in 2011.) Tea2min (talk) 14:58, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nikolas Macko

Macko is not listed at the page for this shooting. What I will note, is that looking up "Nikolas Macko", the shooting almost didn't come up on the first page (was the very last result for me)" This might make sense as it took place in 2007, and as time progresses, older results are less likely to be promoted higher. But in any event, we have no content on this individual. In 2007, they attempted to fend off the shooting from taking place. But, these efforts are not described anywhere on the page or on Wikipedia, to my understanding. I don't think that this is a particularly useful redirect, in the article's current state. Just as Google displays a wide assortment of topics related to different "Nikolas Macko"s, if he isn't discussed in the article any longer, I don't think this redirect is necessary either. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As it should be worth noting, this redirect was fully protected almost IMMEDIATELY after creation in 2007, and remained fully protected for another 17 years up until just a month ago. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lynn Thomas (That's So Raven)

No mention of a character called Lynn Thomas at the target article. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:34, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lower Quebec

No information about Lower Quebec at the target article. Doing a spot check for other locations around the world, I could not find Lower Foobar ever be a redirect to Foobar, as the specification of lower almost certainly implies a different, undiscussed topic. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Look how they massacred my boy

This redirect is categorized as follows: A meme quotation from film and television, that is not mentioned at the article. Wikipedia is not an infinite compendium of unmentioned memes. Not a helpful redirect as people who want to read about The Godfather would search for The Godfather. Specifying a meme implies a search for specific content that we don't have on WP. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support, how often do people search for films via quotes? Regardless a simple search engine search will tell them the film's title and they can search for the title from there. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Long life motor oil

People searching for motor oil that is specifically long life are likely looking for material on a specific topic that we don't cover. Similarly to people who specify Ultra short-term memory, the "long life" qualifier seems to indicate an undiscussed unmentioned variant. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Living foods diet

There's no context about the idea of "living foods" at the target article, and mentions across Wikipedia are rough all around. Indeed, Living foods is a red link as it stands as well. Without any further context about this particular diet, it does not serve as a very useful redirect in the meantime if readers are left looking for material we don't have, it seems. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Liquid nails

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Lower case version of what's apparently a brand of glue...? Adhesive? In any case, liquid nails are not mentioned at the target, and anyone typing this in instead of adhesive seems to be looking for something else. Has some history, but has also been to RfD before (13 years ago). Utopes (talk / cont) 05:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Yu-jeong (singer)

No singer with this name is discussed at the target article. Does not help to redirect here, suggesting content that we do not have. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Lightsum. Note that members of South Korean K-pop group rarely uses their full name in their promotion, it is always without the surname or a stage name. I created it before Lightsum was published in mainspace but forgotten to retarget. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 11:10, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leave The Light On (Johnny Orlando song)

No song with this title discussed at the target article, not a helpful redirect in its current state. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lamb Chop (The Sheep-Pig)

No character with this name discussed at the target article. Not helpful as a redirect in its current state. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lady Godiva syndrome

Lady Godiva is never mentioned or referred to at the target article. Redirect a hyper-specific reference to an apparent synonym where it never is talked about is not very helpful. People looking for exhibitionism would have gotten to that point through just searching Exhibitionism. The current title might just be more helpful pointed at Lady Godiva, if anything, as the presence of a name within the title makes it seem like the name is the most defining aspect. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of imagination

A lack of imagination isn't an "argument from ignorance". It's not being able to imagine and doesn't have to do with arguments. If anything, it's Aphantasia. However, this has been a redirect here for the last 21 years. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hlist1

The existence of this redirect implies that there are multiple {{hlist}} templates (e.g. {{hlist1}} and {{hlist2}}), but that is not the case. (And, as far as I can tell, has never been the case.) Delete as actively misleading. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]