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A fact from Insect flight appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 August 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that unlike most other insects, dragonflies have direct flight, the muscles being attached directly to the wing bases (pictured)?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/August. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Insect flight.

Some observations

Perhaps the "current research" section ends with too many open-ended questions. This makes it read a bit like an essay, not an encyclopedia entry. Also, the "basic mechanics" section might be a little too technical as it is for many viewers. Not sure how to best improve this, though. Jacoplane 20:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

restructured, but really could use illustrations

Hopefully the inclusion of the actual flight mechanics, and the relegation of the aerodynamics material to the "aerodynamics" section will improve the situation. Ultimately, the inability to insert nice, public domain illustrations hampers pages like this one, and maybe someone can address this in the future. Dyanega 04:26, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Evolution

How did insect flight evolve in the first place -- is there any research? Presumably the insect wing started off as some non flight related structure, then became useful for gliding and later for flying. In birds and bats the wings of course are modified legs. I would guess that's not the case in insects. Was the wing originally perhaps some kind of temperature regulating structure? -- Rsholmes 17:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen a speculative theory of wing evolution in some textbook; I can't recall off the top of my head what it is, but I'll try to get info and a citation ASAP. - Rynne 16:26, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I found a book that addresses this and have used it as a source to edit the article. -- Rsholmes 17:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - The section I've just added in is a pretty nice theory that the entomologists at my university seem to think is the be-all and end-all. I don't really have enough experience of the issue to clean it up though, and I think it really needs it. Dackerts (talk) 11:19, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

Delayed stall appears to deal with aspects of insect flight, but is not very clear. Perhaps it would be better to merge it here with thegeneral discusion of insect aerodynamics? Thanks, Jonathan Oldenbuck 13:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do not merge. Delayed stall is not unique to insect flight. It's a general nonlinear aerodynamic phenomenon, of particular importance to helicopter aerodynamics. Practical analyses of delayed stall have been part of helicopter studies for much longer than part of insect flight studies. rynne (talk) 19:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also Against the merge — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgreeter (talk • contribs) 02:48, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Picture Size

I think that the size of the first picture should be made larger- unless it is at some standard size that I'm not aware of. This is purely for aesthetic reasons. 132.77.4.129 (talk) 16:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed project of interest - organismal biomechanics

Hi all, I'm trying to start a Wikiproject to cover Organismal Biomechanics, and I was wondering if anyone else would be interested? Articles such as animal locomotion. gait, muscle, and similar would be our targets. See my userpage for a list of what I'm planning to work on, including some truly awful articles in desperate need of attention. See proposal page at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Wikiproject_Organismal_Biomechanics. I'll keep anyone who signs up updated via their userpages until I get a project page made. Help of all kinds is appreciated, from brain dumps to wikifying, grammar and dealing with references. Mokele (talk) 01:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be interested in spottily contributing here and there (after my orals). -larval biomechanist — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgreeter (talk • contribs) 02:47, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mayfly gill

http://www.flickr.com/photos/70259473@N00/1075266329

Just granpa (talk) 17:53, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by The C of E (talk) 06:35, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Direct flight: muscles attached to wings

... that unlike most other insects, dragonflies have direct flight, the muscles attaching directly to the wing bases?

Reviewed: Pontiac Phantom

Improved to Good Article status by Chiswick Chap (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 09:55, 18 July 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The referenced source is behind a paywall so I assume good faith. Very interesting hook from a good article. Echetus Xe 15:19, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Aerodynamics

In the image shown under leading edge vortex generation, the sequence numbering 1,2,3 seems to be opposite to what it should be. The insect sweeps its wings from right to left on the downstroke, not left to right. 144.82.8.240 (talk) 15:51, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]