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Apologies if this is already in the article, but it probably should go in that first paragraph in the section '2023 Trial' as it explains the discrepancy between the number of murder charges in the first paragraphs and the number of counts to which she pled not guilty in the second. 2A00:23C6:AE87:3401:9C2F:756E:70EC:DCE7 (talk) 11:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know the primary sources template was added a long while ago, and refreshed earlier this month. When can that template be removed? I'm trying to figure out which are the worst sources we should be looking to replace.
It does not look like anyone else has opinions on it. I have removed the primary sources template. I do not think that template applies, though I still would like to cut down on overuse of sources Soni (talk) 23:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I missed this, but I will put the template back now. Sorry. The article has been written based off newspaper accounts of the trial, and goes into way too much detail from this primary sourced material. Some of it is based off a documentary, which is secondary but has some other issues (e.g. the interviews of doctors etc. are primary and not independent), but we are still lacking a proper authoritative secondary account of this case. This article is currently trying to *be* the secondary source, which is unencyclopaedic. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:58, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with all of those concerns, though I'd have placed a different template instead of primary sources. Makes sense to me, let me see what we can do about this. Soni (talk) 09:13, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2024
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Senior Investigating Officer Paul Hughes later said: "the initial focus was around the hypotheses of what could have occurred: so generic hypotheses of 'it could be natural-occurring deaths', 'it could be natural-occurring collapses', 'it could be an organic reason', 'it could be a virus', and then one of the hypotheses was that, obviously, it could be inflicted harm." -> this sentence has no reliable source to back it up, so it needs to be deleted. I checked the source and did not find it in the source. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:AD59:A396:7B54:FD9E (talk) 03:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh dear, my mistake. I hadn't realised there was a video within the article and that's what it referred to. I thought it was the Sky report itself. HouseplantHobbyist (talk) 08:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Please change "Lucy Letby (born 4 January 1990) is a British former neonatal nurse who murdered seven infants and attempted the murder of six others between June 2015 and June 2016." to "Lucy Letby (born 4 January 1990) is a British former neonatal nurse who was convicted of murdering seven infants and attempting the murder of six others between June 2015 and June 2016. 2603:6010:CF01:DD1:BCDB:FF02:134C:47D2 (talk) 02:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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In the May 20, 2024 issue of the New Yorker Magazine, there is an article by Rachel Aviv, called "Conviction, Did a neonatal nurse really kill seven newborns?". The article suggests that the allegations against and trial and conviction of Lucy Letby, the accused, may be faulty and based on data from which erroneous conclusions were made. My suggestion is rather than starting the bio with the characterization "murderer of seven infants" it be changed to a more ambiguous description such as "neonatal nurse accused and convicted by UK Court".
Perhaps include some of the points made in the New Yorker article to leave for consideration, the possibility of other possible causes (the hospital was understaffed and mismanaged, currently they are experiencing a jump in complications in women in the post-natal unit) and also, the seeming bias toward conviction of some of the witnesses and police agency.
Thank you,
Karen Blume 71.212.172.63 (talk) 22:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Charliehdb (talk) 04:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
