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I've managed to secure images from Universal Online Australia [1] to use images of Holly Valance and albums so long as we abide by their terms and agreements. All shots, except Image:Kiss_kiss_-_limited_edition.jpg (which is a limited edition cover which I think should be fairuse for historical reasons) will be publicity shots and we'll have their permission to use them. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:39, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I'd like to know how many songs she's actually written herself, or whether she just gets away with being a singer because she wears next to nothing. I also haven't noted the fact that she got sued (and lost) after she dropped her old manager. - Ta bu shi da yu 09:16, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Being a singer does not necessarily mean being a songwriter. Tin Pan Alley is alive and well. -- Karada 10:18, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Fair enough. Well, I've added the sections where she dumped her manager, as well as links to the court transcripts and online newspaper articles - Ta bu shi da yu 10:35, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

And being "musical" doesn't mean she know what she's saying, especially the part where she said she likes listening to Slayer!!! and yes - she is a "singer" because she wears next to nothing (this is the world of pop we're talking about after all) Selphie 11:04, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC) **

Well, the article needs info on how her Sister got sick and her current movies she'll be making. I don't keep up with her much though. She might look good, but she seems awful. - Ta bu shi da yu 11:28, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"Awful" as you say aint the word - I have images of someone giving hera piece of paper w/ some "lyrics" on it 1 minuite befre she actually sings it saying ".....and this is how it goes......*starts singing*........" for every song! Selphie 11:39, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC) **

Ya. I don't want to have too much of a go because I don't know the woman. I'm sure she's actually quite nice (I read about how she really cares about her disabled sister, I reckon that's gotta be good) and I'm totally misrepresenting her. I guess I just don't like women who purposely go out in skimpy clothing in order to be successful. I'm sure she has a sharp mind, I just wish she didn't have to become a male sex object to get what she wants. Anyway, that's just my value-judgement. Probably unfair, but there you are. - Ta bu shi da yu 14:10, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I agree, it's people like her, that make some guys expect girls like me (well, not *me* exactly - I'm a goth!!) which is just deplorable! Selphie 17:13, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC) **

I just think it's awesome that she took her name from the frilly thingie that goes under the mattress to cover the bed base.

Something which looks good on a bed but serves little or no practical purpose. How apt. --MartinUK 20:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In closing its her business how she dresses, and no one elses. Besides she looks attractive either away. I mean if your ugly then skimpy clothing aint for you! :p

Ethnicity and Religion

It says her father is "Serbian-Croatian". What does that mean? Is he a Serb or a Croat? Is he from Serbia or Croatia? Vukadinović seems like a Serbian name. It also says she was educated at a Roman Catholic high school. Does that mean she's catholic or she just went to a catholic school?

Albums as separate articles?

It seems like their inclusion in the main article just adds a cluttered look and even at the expense of having more album stubs added into the mix, it would be fair to at least separate the full length releases into their own articles if they are notable enough to even be mentioned. Anyone else agree? 65.145.212.238 05:55, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

--- i think she was actually born in new zealand and moved to australia at age 3 or 4. (embarrassed to admit that i know anything about holly valance ;-> )

Kiss Kiss

I know this might seem like splitting hairs, or however the saying goes, but wouldn't it be more likely, given her Serbian heritage, that the song "Kiss Kiss" was based on the Serbian cover-song "Afrodiziak" by Jelena Karleuša (which in turn was based on "Simarik") rather than on the Turkish original? Hecko 02:28, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I recall interviews at the time stated that it was based on the Turkish song. Would be good if someone could find a reference to substantiate this, though... Robwingfield ^(talk) 08:59, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Images

What is with all the random images just randomly shoved into the middle of the article? Celebrity-Benji 07:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

I know its always good to use a free-use image, but the current one is of pretty poor quality, and thus doesnt really represent the subject that well imo. Valet5 16:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dead or Alive

The movie is already out for a while now, I think it's time to remove the future tense from the paragraph.

Reply

Tell me about it, everytime i replace the bloody thing with a secure image, someone retracts it to the old one. WHY!!!!!????? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.38.227.57 (talk) 21:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Check out Wikipedia:Image use policy. Any photograph of a living person must be released under a free license (public domain, cc-by/cc-by-sa, or GFDL) if it is to be used on Wikipedia . ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 21:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CSI in 2007

I've removed the sentence, "Valance will be apperaring as State Attorney Vera Mantini in CSI Miami in 2007.", as it is unsourced. Please provide a reliable source before putting it back. -- Donald Albury 16:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I want to why the external link to http://www.hollyvalanceonline.com/ is allowed. most pages have "coming soon" loaded with adsense ads.

Normally official web sites are allowed, but I just removed the 'official' site because it requires registration, and the forum site, as well. Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided says to not link to such sites. -- Donald Albury 12:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Can somebody please go through the article and clean up please. I am not a fan, (linked from one article to another), but find the lines toffee crisp, £3 record and sponsorship deals quite hard for anyone to believe. I looked back through several revisions and it appears to be vandalism still left over from previously that nobody has spotted. I did however burst out laughing when I read about her 147. Didn't even know she played snooker. Steve hill4 22:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can edit the article and remove anything you think is nonsense (explain what you have done in the edit summary). If you are not sure about something, add {{fact}} after any 'facts' you question. This will place a ^{(citations needed)} tag in the article. If citations are not supplied in a reasonable time the item can be deleted. -- Donald Albury 21:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have tidied up the things mentioned here.Craigjs 07:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

£3 million contract seems to be real: http://www.brandrepublic.com/login/News/203372/

Serbian

Dose anyone no if she speaks Serbian? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Euro.Serb (talk • contribs) 07:35, 15 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Tatoos or piercings

From photos Holly appears to have some tatoos, one above her right hip. Anyone know what tatoos (not just where they are, also what they are) or peircings she has? --87.232.46.247 16:04, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]