User talk:Johnlp

User talk:Johnlp/Archive 1 to the end of 2006

"Name day"

Thank you, but it does not stand for Jan 1, 2007. Since Tintin, Tintin1 etc are all already taken at wikipedia and webmails, I picked a number with cricketing significance at random that is unique everywhere. (952 is more important but wasn't picked for obvious reasons :P ) Tintin (talk) 03:35, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Sydney Pardon

Many thanks for supplying his date of birth, which I couldn't find anywhere. I don't suppose that you happen to know his place of birth and/or place of death? JH 19:32, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I should have thought of looking there! (As an aside, it's a shame how Births and Deaths has been emasculated in recent editions. I also greatly miss the list of Test cricketers, showing who they played against, in which years, and how many Tests.) JH 19:44, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I've had the same thought, that splitting it into two volumes would be a good idea. I bet that Pardon would have done so by now. JH 21:25, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Summer of four captains

Just to make sure that you noticed this. [1] is the problem statement. It does not seem to appear in the online Wisden, but do you remember if it was used in Cricketer or WCM ? Tintin (talk) 10:50, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Tintin and thanks in advance Johnlp. Can I also draw your attention to this diff ([2]). Ta. --Dweller 11:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I put a note on the talkpage thread last night. Not sure it was particularly helpful! Johnlp 11:34, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I found that ref too... and it's not a brilliant one anyway, because it's not really used in the right way. How annoying... I can't believe that I was creative enough to make it up myself, yet I can't find any decent refs for it. --Dweller 11:42, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

? pic for Midsomer Norton railway station

Hi, I saw your recent edit to Somerset and Dorset Joint Railway & wondered if you could help. Do you know if the picture at geograph is right for the wikipedia article on Midsomer Norton railway station if so it is licenced under creative commons & we could use it?— Rod ^talk 22:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks I've added the pic - perhaps you would be kind enough to improve the caption or add more info (I've also linked to the station article from the Radstock article which includes Midsomer Norton.— Rod ^talk 22:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Radstock

Following your suggestion I've added a comment on the Talk page for Norton Radstock about possibly separating Midsomer Norton & Radstock into 2 different articles - would you like to add any comment?— Rod ^talk 09:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

B&NSR

I'm no railway expert but the Bristol and North Somerset Railway article seems fine - certainly in terms of local geography & links. Thanks — Rod ^talk 22:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

William Clarke

Hi, Would the William Clarke mentioned on the Bristol and North Somerset Railway be William Tierney Clark?— Rod ^talk 22:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Ganteaume

Re [3], apparently AG was the third wicket keeper. Kanhai kept wickets in the first three Tests (it seems Alexander was available but not picked) and Alexander for the last two. Tintin 00:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Mendip Hills

Thanks for correcting my error on Mendip Hills, I've now put the article up for peer review & would welcome any comments on Wikipedia:Peer review/Mendip Hills.— Rod ^talk 10:17, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Calcutta Cricket Club

CCC is considered as the second oldest current cricket club after MCC (though it is, as mentioned in the article, probably older). The source mentioned in the article says that 1792 came to be regarded as the most authentic because the Wisden Cricketers Almanack, acknowledged to be the authority on all cricketing matters, accepted the version on the basis of the score-card of a match played between Calcutta, on the one hand, and Dum Dum and Barrackpore, on the other, as reported by the Madras Courier.. I was under the same impression that the yearly history section in the Almanacks says so but on checking specifically for this today found that it has no entry for CCC or 1792.

The Rowland Bowen article from 1967 does say so but some of things mentioned in it have since been revised. Don't we have anything newer in Wisden to support the 1792 claim ? Tintin 07:12, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

(Please reply here since this may become a three way discussion)

Will try to look this evening, but have a bad day today and it may be late. BTW, not three-way, did you spot I found two more murdereds in a book of obits? Johnlp 08:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Re murdered ckters, yes, I have that page in the watchlist. Never thought those lists would become so long ! Tintin 08:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure that Calcutta is the second oldest current club or MCC the oldest. ISTR that some town club in England celebrated its 250th anniversary a decade or two ago. I suspect it might be arguable whether it was really one and the same organisation throughout all that time, though. Regarding Wisden, I think that the main Dates in Cricket History has appeared several more times since 1967, but I don't think that it's been revised at all, and I don't think that the Dates in Indian Cricket History has appeared since. Bowen died in 1978, and I don't think that anybody else has taken it on. Looking at what the Calcutta article currently says about its origins, it all appears to be correct. JH (talk page) 09:56, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I can see nothing in subsequent Wisdens that changes the 1792 date, and it is also mentioned in the Barclays World of Cricket book (though I suspect that used Wisden as its primary source). Mitcham Cricket Club just a couple of miles from me here in south London claims to have been founded in 1685 and to have been watched by Lord Nelson (presumably when he had the use of both eyes, so before 1794!). Someone has believed that enough to create a Wikipedia article on it. Johnlp 22:02, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Added these two points and mentioned Mitcham specifically. Tintin 04:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Btw, this is what the entry in Bengal Gazette in 1780 reads :

News extraordinary from the Cricket Club : The gentlemen of the Calcutta Cricket Club are themselves into wind and preparing to take the field for a very active campaign - but as Prior observes : "The strength ofevery other member depends upon the belly timber. They are laying in a capital stock of that necessary ammunition, fed beef and claret, allowing no other intervals but the short time required for its concoction - many of the club are so indefatigable as to work double tides, at this agreeable, though fatiguing operation. Calcutta Cricket Club enjoys today the use of a splendid site as good as can be found anywhere. One reference is enough. At a meeting it was decided to admit officers of Her Majesty's regiments quartered in Fort William, Dum Dum, Alipore, Barrackpore on payment of half fess because their pay did not permit them to incur the expense. As the Cricket Club had the free use of regimental bands, they have to show some appreciation so the underpaid bandsmen gave their services to help their officers enjoy themselves.

This is dated 16 December, 1780. Tintin 09:35, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Q 437

Since this is from Herecombe v Therecombe, please wait till the others have a go at this one. Tintin 23:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

LOL. Despite the topic it is a little funny. I added the cat to Collie Smith too. Tintin 02:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Award of a Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		The Barnstar of Diligence is hereby awarded in recognition of extraordinary scrutiny, precision, and community service. Awarded by Addhoc

Mendip Hills FAC

Thanks for your edits of Mendip Hills. I have now put it up as a Featured Article Candidate & comments, support or opposition is being recorded at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mendip Hills.— Rod ^talk 10:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

reply

thank you for letting me know, it wasn't intended to happen so was probably a mess up by the browser or my crappy computer; anyways thanks.--Thugchildz 19:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

About Monty Panesar

If you look at the batting and bowling section, you'll see. --71.163.66.77 22:33, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

It is true

Hello John. Yes, I've been persuaded and I've returned. I'll only be making short visits for the next couple of weeks because I've a lot on but I intend to get stuck into the 19th century material and take that forward. Thanks for dealing with those NZ article prods while I was away. All the best. --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 19:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Murder

Agree, we should create two lists out of it. I'll create the tables first. Tintin 13:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

List of cricketers who were murdered is up. Tintin 08:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Please do the needful for DYK. I am on to the other list now. Tintin 09:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

There is some confusion about the presence of David Hookes. User:Daniel Case changed "Other deaths" to "Possibly murdered cricketers". It sounds better but Hookes doesn't belong there. Strictly speaking, Hookes should not be given equal prominence as the rest when the article is about "murdered" cricketers. Another of his suggestions is to change the article title to "List of cricketers who were homicide victims". What do you think ? Tintin 04:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Re Hylton, may be in a notes section. In DYK, shouldn't it say that Hylton is the only Test cricketer to be hanged ? Now it sounds as if he is the only fc ckter but we can't be certain about it. Tintin 15:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Bill O

Hey! You started without us! (Great job btw...) --Dweller 20:12, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh heck, do yourself justice. You've done brilliantly. If someone did decide to take it on, it's in fine shape for heading to FA. --Dweller 08:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Bramall Lane

Thanks for the heads up! It was just my terrible spelling. I've put the extra information in the existing Bramall Lane article so the one I wrote, now called 'Bramall Lane Cricket Ground' can be deleted if you like. Thanks again. Nick mallory 08:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC) Nick Mallory

The redirect is a good idea, but I don't know how to do it. I'll look it up and try to do it, but I'd be happy for you to get rid of my 'Bramall lane cricket ground' article and redirect people to the right one through my wrong spelling. I wonder why I thought it was spelt like that? I must talk really posh or something. I wrote a piece on the "Roses Match" as well because it seemed to be a gaping hole in the cricket coverage and now I wonder if there's another article on that somewhere on wikipedia. How do these redirects work? I'd like people who look for 'Roses match' or 'Roses matches' to find my piece, how do I do that? Thanks for being patient with me! Nick mallory 09:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC) Nick Mallory

*Sigh*

[4] and http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/288672.html Tintin 06:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Takes my breath away

Nick Mallory, I mean. He's quicker than Brett Lee! I see you wrote to him just before I did.

Changing the subject, thanks for your message to me. And many more thanks for all your help recently while I've been away from the site. Much appreciated. --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 21:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Roy Booth

Your stuff is brilliant. It's a great article now. Well done. Nick mallory 01:22, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

SDJR re Glastonbury

Thank you for your comments, I'm glad someone else likes the idea. Actually I've just sandboxed the Templecombe link and when the servers return from maintenance I'll put it up. Now you mention it I think I saw earthworks connecting the SDJR and WS&W from a passing DMU the day we saw Western Gauntlet in Dorchester West.

So I'll need to look into that. A few more positive views and Cock Mill goes in (!) Britmax 22:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Stoat etc

I had a stab at WP:CRIQ. --Dweller 15:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Jim Hutchinson

On 28 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jim Hutchinson, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 03:09, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

List of premature obituaries

Thanks for your additions to this. Re Frederick Fane, you said: "By a coincidence, Mr Fane's father also once read his own obituary" - do you have any more information on this? Even the name of his father? As it ideally should have a separate entry. Ben Finn 15:26, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the message - I think I'll create a separate entry for his father, though it'll be sketchy! Ben Finn 18:09, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Cuthbert Burnup

This guy's name appears in the Guinness book but I can't remember why. Do you know if he has scored 10 off a single ball in fcc ? Tintin 18:01, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Re. the net system, the official announcement reads like this : "It has been decided to enclose the ground with nets (3 feet high) during club matches as an experiment, and to dispose as far as possible with bounds. If the ball hits the net 2 runs will be added to the score as well as those actually run. Hits over the net to be counted as boundaries, ie, three runs". The experiment was dropped after the one season (1900) because it was disadvantageous to the strong hitter. (The mention about boundary being three sounds interesting). Tintin 01:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

TeckWiz's RFA

Hey Johnlp. Thanks for commenting on my unsuccessful RFA last month under my old name, TeckWiz. I'm now known simply as User:R. I've been very busy lately which is why you're getting now. I will use your comment to help improve, and I hope to keep helping and improving Wikipedia alongside you. --TeckWiz is now R ^ParlateContribs_@(Let's go Yankees!) 16:22, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Kapil Dev (Coach)

i responded to your comments on the talk page. Please let me know if you agree with my comments and if so, remove the merge request. Kalyan 14:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Re David Stevens

Yeah, it's very likely Darren. It's what happened when I wrote a lot of articles off scorecards with DI Stevens and had a guess at the first name! ;) Sam Vimes | Address me 22:54, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

O'Reilly support

Hey, just a quick word to thank you for your support on Bill's FAC, it suddenly made me realise that I ought to have paid more attention to the history of the page so that I could have name-checked you in the nomination. When I said it was predominantly a collaboration between me and Dweller, that would overlook, by far, your contributions, for which I apologise. Thanks again for your support, good work to you and all the best... The Rambling Man 19:52, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

David Smith (Surrey, Sussex and Worcestershire cricketer)

Thanks for spotting the omission of Sussex there! The name looks a little bit unwieldy with three counties in the title, but it works and that's what matters. Cheers. Loganberry (Talk) 22:24, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

weston (bath) railway station

Thankyou for your help! Just to check, is this the right building? Thanks again!! :) guiltyspark 19:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll leave the coordinates as they are for now then, just a general area is often good enough (although I of course aim for exact locations!). A photo of the nameplate could make an interesting addition to the article, if you are so inclined. Thanks again :) guiltyspark 20:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Les Berry

Thanks for writing such a good article. It was I who added him to the Todo list, but I never got around to writing an article myself. JH (talk page) 20:58, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

TMS

Definitely an imposter, John. I've only seen about ten minutes of the game today. Spent most of the day helping the garden to recover from the storm! All the best. --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 18:41, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

RE: Somerset pic

Thanks! I've got about 250 of them, I'm uploading good ones slowly, have ones uploaded for Kadeer Ali, Marcus Trescothick, Justin Langer as well as the Somerset CCC one, I'm also about to add a good one to the article about batting in cricket, go have a look in a few minutes! SGGH ^speak! 20:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

That is my favourite, look where the ball is! SGGH ^speak! 20:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

And Image:Battingthroughshot.JPG this one, sorry for showing off! :D SGGH ^speak! 21:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

That's 13 now SGGH ^speak! 21:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :) SGGH ^speak! 22:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Bill Alley

Having looked at the infobox that you added for Alley as a player (and thanks for doing that), I then glanced at the one below, for him as an umpire. I was surprised to see that it said "Nationality: English". I suppose that he could have taken out British citizenship at some point, which would justify that, but I wasn't aware of it. I don't suppose that you'd happen to know? At the moment, the article is liable to confuse people, showing him as an Australian player but an English umpire. JH (talk page) 21:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

"I hadn't seen one of these umpire infoboxes before: I think I'm inclined to alter that rather than the playing one. Shall I go ahead, or do you have views?" I agree with you. Please go ahead.

When I started creating player articles, I didn't know how to do an infobox, so my early articles don't have one. Thanks for the offer to create some. Players lacking one are Alfred Mynn - though for so early a player it's questionably how meaningful it would be, Syd Buller, Tom Barling, Tom Rushby, Stan Squires, Tom Shepherd, Michael Barton (cricketer), R. C. Robertson-Glasgow, Ken Suttle, George Cox senior, George Cox junior, Jack Newman (English cricketer), Francis Lacey, Harry Altham. Phew! JH (talk page) 21:28, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for the ones that you've done. JH (talk page) 08:48, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that sounds sensible. JH (talk page) 16:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Essex

You are completely right, I don't know what I was thinking when I lost concentration there. I completely missed the mistake until now. Thank you! Bobo. 03:21, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Wisden Trophy

I have mostly finished on the Wisden Trophy but need more info on the actual trophy, e.g who made the trophy, dimensions, weight etc... Monsta666 20:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

WBCR

If you have a Wisden Book of Cricket Records, can you please verify this part about Morris/Bradman from the Arthur Morris article : The season was marked by a low scoring match against Queensland in which New South Wales needed 142 on the final day to win. Morris took 108 runs from the opposition in only 80 balls, steering his team to victory before lunch. Until then, only Bradman had scored a century before lunch in a Shield match. The match was the one between NSW/QLD in 1948/9. Tintin 14:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks (sorry for the delay). Tintin 13:56, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Active or Inactive?

Hi John. Yes, I'm finding it difficult to tear myself away. I have started a new writing project and do intend to devote myself to that but I also promised that I would sort out all those tour articles and so I am still here, so to speak. Don't know about teatime, though: maybe in time for breakfast tomorrow morning........ All the best. --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 05:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Specific references

Hi John. No problem with you asking at all. I'm doing a general housekeeping of mainly tour, season, club, venue and pre-20th century player articles to ensure each has correct categories, valid references, no obvious typos or falsehoods, suitable headings and, above all, a rating. Especially in the ratings, I'm ensuring that if an article needs attention because it is one of my "bare stubs" or because it has been tagged in some way, it is flagged for attention and goes into the attention category.

All of this will give me a baseline for further development with the attention items getting priority, but first I need to understand the scale of the thing.

As for the article you mentioned, it is one of hundreds that have non-specific references. I realise I was originally responsible for this sort of reference being used as a placeholder but if we are going to improve these articles to B-class and above we have got to be specific about references. So if I see anything that includes "various issues" or suchlike I am deleting or amending it. I have a problem with Wisden and Playfair because they are also used generically but I've taken the view that they are at least specific book titles and there is no doubt that the relevant issue will have material about the article (although I've frequently found Playfair in articles that are about subjects before Playfair started!).

My difficulty with the "various publications" type of reference is that it is not even the name of a book, but of a publisher, and that goes against site policy. So I've decided to remove that line and others like it where it arises. We have got to ensure that references are specific. If you look at Colin Cowdrey or Derek Lodge, for example, you will see how this particular publisher should be utilised in reference sections via specific titles.

Hope that helps you to understand the method behind the madness. I still do intend to take a lengthy break to work on other things but I remembered my promise to sort out the tour and season articles, so I decided to do that first. The talk page was changed before I made that decision so I ought to change it back, really. --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 06:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

John Daniell

No, I haven't begun, and would be delighted if you wrote an article. I hope you'll include the "four more gernaia, Crusoe" story. :) JH (talk page) 16:38, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for producing the article. JH (talk page) 20:44, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm having trouble tracing a source for the "gerania" story. It wasn't in any of the books that I thought were the most likely candidates. From memory, Somerset's opponents were playing out time for a draw. With something like 30 minutes left, they were about 192-8. They were being careful not to score any runs, as in those days a second new ball could be taken when the total reached 200. Therefore Daniell instructed Crusoe to deliberately bowl a delivery wide down the leg side. It duly went for 4 wides, finishing up in a bed of geraniums in front of the pavilion. (I don't know which ground it was.) As Crusoe walked back to his mark, Daniell called out something along the lines of: "Four more gerania please, Crusoe." In looking for the story online I did find two interesting links (the second a blatant copyright violation): [5] and [6]. JH (talk page) 19:53, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Since the story seems not to be mentioned in Crusoe's autobiography "46 Not Out", I suspect that it is false. However the story is so good and is so in character, that perhaps we might include it preceded by some words such as "Neville Cardus claimed..." JH (talk page) 13:40, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Robert Burton (cricketer)

You should create the target of the redirect first (Claude Burton (cricketer)), before creating redirects, or else they'll be speedied under R1. --Coredesat 09:24, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

William Oates

On User talk:Bobo192, Johnlp said:
Hi Bobo. I have stuck a 'Prod' on your William Oates article because there is a second article on the same chap under the title William F. Oates that I thought had a bit more info in. I've carried across to the William F. Oates article the stuff that you had that the other article didn't, but the joined article is still more substantially Nick Mallory's than yours. I hope you don't mind too much, but I think Oates is probably a bit obscure to warrant two articles! Kind regards.

Hey there John. Nice to hear from you. Simple answer - do what you feel necessary. I feel stupid that there are now two articles on the same player, and had I realized this all along I would have been more careful with my links.

Merge whatever content you wish from my version of the article into your version at William F. Oates (as much or as little as possible, I will not be offended in any way), then feel free to stick a detailed enough db-reason on my version (or even a redirect, if you feel that's what it needs). Heck, if I notice it on a speedy deletion list before anyone else, I'll get to it. Thank you for warning me that this actually happened. All the best. Bobo. 01:31, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

A short addendum

Apologies for sending you this second message immediately after sending the first, but, if immediately prior or after you do this, you have the time or energy, could you please warn me, merely out of me remembering to do a small amount of personal housekeeping. Bobo. 01:34, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

On User talk:Bobo192, Johnlp said:
I was just going to let the prod process take its course, which will leave your Oates piece hanging around until Wednesday evening next before it gets culled. I think your article was probably the original of the two: Nick Mallory probably created the other when he was doing his large-scale push on Yorkshire cricketers, and though Oates was mostly a Derbyshire player, he had a couple of games for Yorkshire in 1956.

Exactly — similar to my push to get the first fifty or so Derbyshire players an article each — I'm amazed that me, or at least someone, has now created one for each of the last 211 debutants for the team – in my list as of the 2006 season. As for the first fifty, I'm one off knocking off that list. Honestly, if it's a duplicate article, just request speedy deletion or plant a redirect for it. I got us into this mess and this'll get us out of it.

Thank you for understanding the situation better than I feel I could have. Bobo. 09:22, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Heroism?

On User talk:Bobo192, Johnlp said:
What a hero you are! Thank you. No more grim pictures of the Moomintrolls on all our cricket bio pages.  ;-)

I'm afraid three hours of spare time is not heroism. It's a severe case of boredom and proof of inexistence of everybody who should be in the house keeping me company. But otherwise, everything appears to be working properly now. Let me know if anything else needs to be done with regard to this. Thank you very much. Bobo. 20:05, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Help ...

Can you please check the year in which Wisden started including the full name of VM Muddiah in the list of international cricketers. My guess is that it should be some time in the late seventies. This is regarding some confusion about his actual first name. Tintin 08:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. The problem here is that Venatappa appears to be a typo, it is probably Venkatappa. The Venatappa used in Who's who, CMJ etc apparently came from a single article published in the late 70s. There are several Indian books which use the latter version. (If you try google, there are no hits for Venatappa which does not include the cricketer while Venkatappa has some 57K hits). Tintin 02:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

There is only one VM Muddiah listed in the Karnataka telephone directory [7] but he lives in the centre of Bangalore city. The most recent article that I found on him is from 2005, he was living in a farm 70km outside Bangalore then. I'll give a ring one of these days to check whether it is the same guy :-) Tintin 05:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

South American cricket team in England in 1932

Thanks for the Antony Legard; I've now made South American cricket team a redirect to the tour article on the grounds that they never otherwise played first-class cricket. Loganberry (Talk) 23:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

References

Thank you for the kind words on my User talk page. I've responded to the references issue on WT:CRIC, and as you'll see I have considerable sympathy for your views on this subject. It would be nice to reach a solid consensus on the matter. Loganberry (Talk) 21:54, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the further comments. I've had a thought on this, which I think I may adopt: to continue the reference-light style on grounds of readablity, but to add an extra link at the bottom to the Lists of matches and detailed statistics page; that makes it more explicit than the statistical summary page where scorecards and so on can be found. I'll copy this comment (minus the first bit) to the Project talk page, and see what others think. Loganberry (Talk) 23:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and I certainly have no intention of stopping writing the bios! That break over the summer helped a lot in recharging my batteries. In any case, I'm fed up with all those blasted redlinks for 1920s players! Loganberry (Talk) 23:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Or if the scorecards are all that we want, [8] would reduce the clicks by one. Tintin 00:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

SDJR Halt/Station

Thanks for spotting that an article existed on Shoscombe & Single Hill. I think the inconsistent Halt/Station labelling is just something that'll come with the territory in a project such as this one. I'll have to be careful when filling in those red links tho'! Britmax 09:10, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Shapwick

Thanks for pointing out my error caused by lack of coffee. Shapwick it is. I infer from some closure dates that there was a purge of halts in 1956 (Stourpaine & Durweston, Charlton Marshall are examples) and as part of this economy drive some stations were downgraded to halt status (Spetisbury, for example). Britmax 09:45, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Spetisbury

RVJ Butt has the name change to halt as 13th August 1934 Britmax —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 14:18, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

SDJR

Re LSWR/Midland balance. Thought that might be the case but decided to keep the momentum of producing boxes up and clean them up afterwards. Would you agree with putting Somerset and Dorset Joint Railway in large letters with LSWR/Midland smaller beneath, in the middle box? Britmax 17:56, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

P.S This sort of thing

Preceding station		Disused railways		Following station
Binegar Line and station closed		Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway LSWR & Midland Railways		Midsomer Norton South Line and station closed

Britmax 18:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

SDJR Boxes

Thanks for the thioughts and the offer of help. I did the changes and turned a few boxes round so you can flick through the line by staying on the same side. The only exception is Wimborne where the direction of the Southampton & Dorchester makes it awkward. I don't know if that matters though. As for "universal" to "widely", good idea, it is more precise.

Pictures

So Wellow gives me some idea where you might have been on the 30th of September. If you want to know where I was, Marc Bolan might give you a clue! Britmax 10:55, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that - good pictures, although Morning Star looks a job and a half. My brother and I went out this afternoon and he says he nearly suggested going out to Shillingstone! That was a near miss!? Britmax 20:44, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Jack Meyer

As founder of Millfield School and Somerset captain, he ought to have an article but doesn't seem to. The link for "Jack Meyer" in the list of Somerset Cricket Captains turned out to go to some American baseball player, so I've made it link to the non-existent article Jack Meyer (educator and cricketer) instead. As the resident expert on Somerset cricket, you seem like the natural person to write an article. JH (talk page) 20:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. There's no rush. :) The 1992 (I think) Wisden has an obituary, but of course it has much more on his cricket than on Millfield. JH (talk page) 21:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again. I'll advise User:Robertson-Glasgow. (I've heard the dog story before. I'd like to think that it was true.) JH (talk page) 22:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll take a look at the article, and the article for Millfield School, and see if I can add anything. JH (talk page) 09:55, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Having looked at it, I think it's a good article. I've added a few categories (including English Cricketers, as I think that's occasionally useful), and made a few other minor amendments. It's a pity that the Millfield article has so little on him. (Incidentally, I've had no success in tracking down a citation for the Daniell/Robertson-Glasgow "gerania" story.) JH (talk page) 20:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I've now added an infobox. I hope you approve. I've limited the teams listed to the 5 "main" ones, rather than listing them all. I've put Somerset first as the primary one and then the others in chronological order of first appearance. JH (talk page) 21:14, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Excellent! :) JH (talk page) 17:34, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

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As you already seem to edit lots of Somerset articles.— Rod ^talk 17:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

CRIQ

Thanks, the writer was just a guess though, based on the "outlived by many years" hint :-) Tintin 13:58, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Cricket Talk Pages

I'm sorry, I had no idea. My assumptions were wrong. I'll join your group in including the content. Thank you for your note, I wouldn't have noticed otherwise. - Mtmelendez ^(Talk) 10:42, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 30 November, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jack Meyer (educator and cricketer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cheers, Daniel 11:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Gerald Barry

On User talk:Bobo192, Johnlp said:
You intimated that you weren't going to create an article for Capel-Cure's brother-in-law, Gerald Barry. So I did.

Sometimes I should watch what I say otherwise my scariest of dreams may indeed come true. In all fairness, I had no idea that Gerald Barry met Wikipedia guidelines under more criteria than merely his single first-class cricketing appearance - and hey, if this one ever goes to AfD, (which I know it won't, don't worry!) we can at least fall back on the one first-class appearance criterion. Ironic seeing as it's presumably the thing he's known least for! All the best. Bobo. 22:51, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Petrockstow railway station

Looking much better now - good one. DuncanHill (talk) 00:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Loxton

Great work! That's a brilliant kick-start to the article. Want to come join in with Miller? --Dweller (talk) 10:21, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Sounds excellent. I knew next to nothing about Miller (or Barnes or Morris for that matter) before I began work on his article. For me, part of the fun is learning about these characters I'm only vaguely aware of. --Dweller (talk) 13:31, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

The ship's a nice added touch - just wondering why you're so shy about your sources? --Dweller (talk) 09:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

RMS Strathaird

Nice job on this article. I've converted it to use a standard ship infobox (you can find the code here: {{Infobox Ship Example}}). Thanks for an interesting read! Maralia (talk) 01:27, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Colin McCool

Thanks for the info on his Somerset time. A set of Wisdens can come in quite handy. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 14:30, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Since I nominated it, you have added to it immensely. I have found a head shot for him, but I think we are lacking on some of the personality section. At Somerset, he seems to have been the hard-bitten pro, but what was he like as a Test player? I will keep looking. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 12:50, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

BlackJack

He specifically asked on the talk page that his own article should not be raised on WT:CRIC due to conflict of interest. I think you need to take a step back and realise that he is having personal problems because of this "dispute" that you have broadcast to everyone. It is not just an article on WP that is the problem. You are not helping the situation at all.

Obviously the other two articles should be raised at WT:CRIC so no problem there.

By the way, my name is Albert Wright, not John Leach. I met John/Jack via WP because of our common interests in sport and stamps. --AlbertMW (talk) 11:37, 30 December 2007 (UTC)