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Lyndhurst, New Jersey Map Error

Hello,

I was reading the article Lyndhurst, New Jersey, and I noticed that where there was supposed to be a highlighted version of the Bergen County map showing Lyndhurst's location, there was no highlight. Is there any way I can fix this? Maybe someone else would highlight it? Thanks!

MAP91 (talk) 03:20, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there and happy new year. The best thing to do in this case is tell the person who uploaded the image of the error so that they can fix it themselves. It's usually easiest for them since they usually already have the image on their computer and the needed software to make any changes. The author of this image, Arkyan (talk · contribs) hasn't edited in about a month, though, and may be taking a break; He's got a note that he might not reply to things quickly on his talk page. If you leave him a note, but he doesn't reply or fix the problem after a while, you might want to be bold and fix the problem yourself. There's this archived version of the image that has a highlighted town and could be reverted to, but since it was overwritten I don't know if it's correct. Since the image is hosted on Wikimedia Commons, come back for further instructions if you don't get a timely reply and need to revert or upload a new image. Cheers! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 12:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Elipongo, and happy new year to you as well. I will try the things you suggested and try to verify the previous version of the map. If that's not correct, I will try to get in touch with Arkyan. Thanks again!

MAP91 (talk) 18:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ritarian

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Isat214 (talk) 10:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i'm lost. how do i contribute? how do i write an article?Isat214 (talk) 10:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Help:Contents. --Silver Edge (talk) 10:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Complaint

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 85.94.114.96 (talk) 11:27, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My name is Dieter Maschesky, I am German and to say it first, to me wikipeda is the gretest source of infortion on the Internet. Of course with all thos many issues there will always be disputes, like The Persion Gulf issue. No one in Germany for example would know what the Arab Gulf is.

However, I would just asked for one issue to be deald with or audited very carefully. I read the page Siemens AG and I stopped at the paragraph

QUOTE Bribery Case

Siemens is currently investigated for serious bribery, that involve Heinz-Joachim Neubürger, former chief financial officer, Karl-Hermann Baumann, another former CFO and exchairman, and Johannes Feldmayer, a former management board member. [10]. The investigation has found questionable payments of roughly €1.3 billion, or $1.9 billion, from 2002 to 2006 that have triggered a broad range of inquiries in Germany, the United States and many other countries. [11]

In May 2007 a German court convicted two former executives of paying about €6 million in bribes from 1999 to 2002 to help Siemens win natural gas turbine supply contracts with Enel, an Italian energy company. The contracts were valued at about €450 million. Siemens was fined €38 million. UNQUOTE

Firstly, every person is innocent until sentenced guilty. So, to be fair you should refrain from letting anyone in any case cite "currently under investigation". Secondly, why does the last sentence not have a citing mark?

Last, but not least and utmost important to me is citing a newspaper articel as evidence. Remeber one man's terrorist is another man's hero.

Citing a judgement yes, citing an official Government announcement yes, - but newspapers and the like, no. By avoiding the latter you would save yourself a lot of troubel and work, I am sure.

In any case, keep up the good work and have a succesful New Year.

Dieter Maschesky

Hello Dieter and thank you for note. Issues with particular articles are best brought up on that article's own talk page so that editors directly involved in working on that particular article can respond. That particular article's talk page is located at Talk:Siemens AG. Regarding your more general point about using "newspapers and the like" as references, I'm afraid that your opinion runs counter to the current consensus as to what constitutes a reliable source. Newspapers and other such secondary sources are actually preferred since the jobs and careers of people there rely on their credibility. For example, the fallout from the Adnan Hajj photographs controversy resulted in people getting fired and likely blacklisted. I hope this addresses your concerns, have a happy new year! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 12:55, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding "one man's terrorist is another man's hero", that is why Wikipedia:Neutral point of view is an important official policy at Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:06, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Beginner's Wiki Markup

Hello, I'm pretty new at editing/creating pages and upkeep, and I do not know much about Wiki Markup. Is there some easy introduction page to it, or could you recommend something to help me learn it? It looks like a daunting task, and I just don't know how to get started. Are there any beginner's courses? The same goes for userboxes, user page design, and most things to do with Wikipedia besides the bare basics. Thanks! MAP91 (talk) 19:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure is - Wikipedia:Tutorial. For the more specific things, you may have to go to the general page for that thing and search around to see if there's anything helpful - for example, the "See also" section at Wikipedia:Userboxes seems to have some helpful links for the newbie userboxer. And of course there is here, and the help desk where very few people will bite your head off for asking basic questions. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 21:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help ConMan...I seem to be getting the hang of things around here thanks to the pages recommended :)

MAP91 (talk) 22:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MAHABHARAT between pandwas and kaurwas

was MAHABHARAT between pandwas and kaurwas a MISTAKE? Guptakrishna (talk) 08:40, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide more context. Are you referring to something regarding Wikipedia? If not then maybe Wikipedia:Reference desk can be of help. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Need help deciphering Image use policy

I'd like to add a picture to the Blue-winged Macaw article because I think it could really use one. I've found one using Google which seems to have been taken by a professional photographer. If I wanted to email him to find out what kind of license it has or get his permission to use it on Wikipedia, what information do I need to get from him? I checked the image use policy but found it confusing. Plesiosaur (talk) 16:31, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Images used on Wikipedia, unless they can make a fair use claim (and something like this probably wouldn't), need to be released under a free license such as the GFDL, or one of the Creative Commons licenses (I think CC-BY and CC-BY-SA are the two that are compatible with Wikipedia's use of the GFDL). What you need to do is:

(1) Get the photographer to agree to release his photo under one of these licenses (this is the tricky part, because the licenses Wikipedia uses allow anyone to reuse the content for just about any purpose, including commercial ones, without paying royalties). (2) Upload the photo (since it will be under a free license, it should be put up on Commons). (3) Get the photographer to email (permissions at wikimedia dot org) to confirm that he agrees to release his photo under said license.

There are a couple of other ways to do this, but this is probably the easiest. Good luck! Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:27, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Needs help with Wikitionary articles

Hello, I am Stoical Iceman. I need help with a decent wikitionary article for a word in Latin. I am hoping that this time it does not get deleted so abruptly. I would like to make decent contributions to this site without being rebuked so silently swift for a few rules I haven't grasped yet. Is there anyone who is willing to teach me the basics of making a lasting and decent article, or even an entry? I would appreciate the experience, and no doubt utalize it for myself. Thank you. Stoical Iceman (talk) 14:54, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the edit summary Dmol posted after reverting your contribution it says "copy vio removed". Wiktionary, like Wikipedia, requires contributions to be licensed under a free content license. Searching for the quoted text you added does indeed reveal it to be taken from elsewhere. That was the reason it got removed - (possible) copyright violation. Even if the text was taken from a public domain source, you would still need to state that in the edit summary. I also believe you can borrow facts as they cannot be copyrighted, but not actual sentences. Although I am surprised Dmol didn't simply try to reword it or something. • Anakin ^{(contribs • complaints)} 15:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) While I hope someone here is able to help you, this is a help page for Wikipedia. For help with Wiktionary, you might want to try the information desk there. Algebraist 15:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that you two, but the article on that (conundrum) is too much for me at the moment and there is no reason for me to go back on that unless it's to get banned. However, I had last posted up an entry on ex animo and yes it was from a reference book, I'll look under your links before I ask anymore questions. . .

All right, it just so happens that Dictionary.com has the same (if not similar) wording that my reference does. I am thinking to myself how can I post up this entry without it looking to plagiarized? Because that's what I was basically doing. Then you said that I can state my reference, or source in the edit summary. That I would love to do for the sake for it to be professional and worthy of staying. I'll be going to wikitionary.

Well this web page says that definition is Copyright 2001 by Douglas Harper. So it is apparently not public domain, and probably can't be included verbatim even if you state the source. I'm really not sure if copyright applies to just the wording, or to the discovery of the history as well, because I have an Oxford dictionary of Word Histories here which gives an almost completely different origin for that word. You really should ask at Wiktionary's Information desk because Wikipedians are not familiar with the Wiktionary rules on sources and stuff. • Anakin ^{(contribs • complaints)} 17:16, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ratings system?

Wait, is there a ratings system in wikipedia? when I look on my watch list I see green numbers and red numbers. What is that for? I am not sure where to look for that in the Help desk, please assist. Stoical Iceman (talk) 15:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The green and red numbers refer to the number of bytes size difference between the previous revision of the page and the new one. For example, (+120), means that the last change made the page 120 bytes bigger. (For Latin (English) letters this corresponds to the number of characters added or removed, although Japanese characters (for example) would take up two bytes each.)

There is also a form of rating system however, although not all articles have a rating. See Wikipedia:Assessment. • Anakin ^{(contribs • complaints)} 15:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that Anakin, by the way, I would like to try again with the article of Ex animo. Possibly some other time when I get my questions and answers together, as well as an explination too.Stoical Iceman (talk) 16:10, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviations

Can anyone please tell me how to format an article (or simply its name) so that it is possible to search for it by either the full name or the abbreviation. For example, formatting it so users get the same result if they search for BBC or British Broadcasting Corporation. Thank you. --Fmshand (talk) 17:10, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What you want to do is create a redirect page. One of the pages has the full content, and the other just redirects to it. In the example you gave, BBC is the full article (because it's the more common name for it) and British Broadcasting Corporation is the redirect. Here's what the source of the redirect page looks like. Have a read of Wikipedia:Redirect to find out how to create them. :) • Anakin ^{(contribs • complaints)} 17:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editing New Article

How do I edit a new article (West Face of the Dru). After Saving This Page in order to get a visual idea of the page. I found it impossible to re-enter in order to make some corrections.

Climbright.

The tildes key on my computor does not work; is not functioning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Climbright (talk • contribs) 22:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have created West Face of the Dru. I'm not sure what your problem is. Maybe you have to bypass your cache to see the page. Click "edit this page" at top to make changes. You can sign by clicking the signature icon above the edit box, or the tildes in "Sign your username: ~~~~" below the box. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note that you can get a visual idea of the page by clicking 'show preview' rather than save. Algebraist 00:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Links to web sites

FritoLay Official LeapFrog Wikimedia Google Microsoft Aladdin Live Search —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.61.131.48 (talk) 22:43, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We call those red links and article links. Do you have a question? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:43, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IP address 74.61.131.48 might have meant external links for the above internal links. Johnny Au (talk) 04:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

adding something to wikipedia

I'm a published writer. Can I add my details to Wikipedia, so people can look up who I am? 86.134.105.93 (talk) 12:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's probably not a good idea. The Wikipedia autobiography guideline discourages this due to the conflict of interest involved. If you had a Wikipedia account, as short autobio on your user page would be OK. Otherwise, you should probably wait for someone else to create the article about you; if you're notable enough, it should happen sooner on later. Algebraist 15:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How to build a fresh page on this site? ---hasan

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Syed Hasan Waheed (talk) 12:20, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Algebraist 15:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article hit counts

Can i see how many hits an article on wikipedia has ? Or how many visitors searched for something in particular on Wikipedia ? Rul3r2003 (talk) 23:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)Rul3r2003[reply]

This has recently become possible. See here. Algebraist 00:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Updating information to a page

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Tmarshallbradley (talk) 04:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On the page for Paine College there is a box on the right hand side of the page. This page has the college's logo, motto, founding date, etc. In this box it names the president as "Curtis Martin, Interim President." A president has been named. George C. Bradley is now the president. How can this information be changed?

Tmarshallbradley (talk) 04:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. You can actually change that information on the page; infoboxes are right at the top of the page, and individual pieces of information can be changed in that section. I've made the change, as you requested. Tony Fox (arf!) 05:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CAD

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 203.87.188.74 (talk) 14:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC) HOW? TO START MAKING A CAD OR WHAT IS THE BEST WAY MAKING A CAD FOR A FIRST TIMER ````14:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello im anthony i donot know how to make a CAD, i need some body to help me, thank you very much if some body.14:27, 6 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.87.188.74 (talk)

I'm not quite sure what you're referring to. CAD most commonly stands for Computer-aided design. Can you be more specific? Also if your question does not relate to Wikipedia, have you tried the Wikipedia Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this help page is for). If you have a knowledge question, just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. • Anakin ^{(contribs • complaints)} 15:30, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

a problem

YXN Accidently made a mistake on Celtic Park page(broke background),please fix it fo me.Thank You. —Preceding unsigned comment added by YXN (talk • contribs) 16:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. You deleted the | between two template parameters. Algebraist 17:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do you post photos AND credit them?

I'd like to add (my own) photos to a couple of artist pages and put a credit underneath underneath. How do I go about doing that?

If I can't add the photos myself, how do I get them added?Slc320 (talk) 22:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Help:Image. PeaceNT (talk) 22:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adding information

How do I insert information into Wikipedia about Noel Fellowes, the author of Killing Time, who is a well known Evangelist and minister who was charged with a murder that he didnt commit, prior to becomming a Christian? 80.189.97.33 (talk) 23:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for notability of people.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. • Anakin ^{(contribs • complaints)} 23:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

cost and/or payment of internet card

How do I obtain an internet card for my Acer laptop and could you please explain how it works; e.g. how do I pay for this service. ~'s24.195.252.210 (talk) 14:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)(email removed for protection)[reply]

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for getting help with editing and finding your way around Wikipedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas such as Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:17, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help with how 'Bold' to be

Hey, I've been using Wikipedia for a while and I decided to start contributing, with writing new articles and editing ones all relevant to my local area (West Yorkshire) but I was wondering if the community would get a little pissy if some of my edits were a bit drastic like creating new articles or rewriting ones I saw as badly written.

Could someone reply on my talk page please, I'd forget to check this one =) ◄Ultre► (talk) 00:43, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

see your talk page for more info. If someone gets too pissy, go to WP:ANI. — BQZip01 — ^talk 00:54, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

footnotes, bootnotes, and other references

I have edited two entries recently plan of st gall and annales school, making relatively small scale contributions granted but each time adding references. I cannot seem to get the footnotes to work properly, however. This has not been a problem for me in the past, but I fear it might have something to do with the old Footnotes3 format. I do not understand the difference between that an other formats, nor how to correct the problem. Help, please! Caroline.goodson (talk) 17:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia. I've fixed the two articles you mentioned (I assume you meant the first one as Plan of Saint Gall ;)) You just need to add {{reflist}} to a page and the sources will show up. Please see WP:FOOT and WP:CITE for more instructions if you encounter difficulties in the future. Hope this helps. PeaceNT (talk) 17:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is it proper for an organization to author it's own entry?

Hello,

Does Wikipedia have any guidelines on organizations authoring thier own factual entries (vs. having others create an entry on thier behalf?).

Many thanks, 209.49.49.253 (talk) 17:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not. The content on Wikipedia is free and can be edited by any user, and no one owns an article here. PeaceNT (talk) 17:35, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia discourages people on organizations authoring their own articles due to the conflict of interest involved. Algebraist 19:29, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How to remove the tag questioning "notablity" from the top of an updated article?

I've spent a lot of time expanding and adding references to an article about Peter H. Reynolds - my favorite children's book author and illustrator. His article has a note at the top saying it's been tagged because "This article may not meet the general notability guideline" - and if notability isn't established, it might be deleted. I've provided a great deal of referenced information about this author and his published work - including many of the awards he's received as the result of his work. I hope this is adequate information and references to establish notability.

My question is - how do I have this article reviewed again, now that I've updated it, and how do I have the message questioning notability removed from the top of the page? This is the first Wikipedia article I've ever worked with, but I assumed I couldn't remove that top tag/message myself. I'd appreciate any help.. Fablefriend (talk) 22:39, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The tag on Peter H. Reynolds (author) advises: "The best way to address this concern is to reference published, third-party sources about the subject." You should read the linked reference article. You should also read about reliable sources. You provided several references but they were not third-party sources; they are tied too closely to the subject. Can you find any newspaper articles about the subject? One of his books appeared on the New York Times best seller list. That would be a good third-party source. Can you find a URL to that list? The key to demonstrating notability is to provide verifiable references to reliable sources. Sbowers3 (talk) 23:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would say the Borders award nomination comes close, but I agree that a more substantial third-party reference would go a long way towards the notability. As for the tag itself, you can actually remove it yourself if you believe the concerns have been addressed - in other words, be bold. However, if someone else decides that the article still isn't up to scratch, then they may re-add the tag, at which point the way to go to avoid an edit war is to go to the article's discussion page (or "talk page") and sort things out there. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback. In the past hour, since your response, I've added two links from the New York Times website that listing the "Best Seller" lists in which a book he illustrated appear. I've also linked a very recent, very extensive Boston Globe article about Peter H. Reynolds and his work. I also clarified that the Carnegie Medal of Excellence he received is from the American Library Assocation. Oh, I just looked and noticed the tag was removed. Thanks! I do want to keep working on this article - and I wanted to be "up to snuff", as far as Wikipedia is concerned. I eventually want to list all his books and films in a table, along with all the awards they've received. That might be an even better way of showing "notablity". Thanks again for your help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fablefriend (talk • contribs) 00:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One of your links in turn linked to a Boston Globe article. Boston Globe is a reliable source and is a good reference to demonstrate notability. After adding that reference I removed the notability tag. The best thing you could do is find other reliable sources (e.g. newspapers) to replace the references to the web sites that are associated with the subject. It also would be helpful if you changed the raw http references with the "cite" template as you can see I used. Sbowers3 (talk) 00:05, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I really appreciate all your advice. There's another recent Boston Globe article that I'll include as well. One reason I did use the subject's website(s) as references is because I researched the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons page and it is stated there: "Self-published material may never be used in BLPs unless written by the subject him or herself. Subjects may provide material about themselves through press releases, personal websites, or blogs." For that reason, I thought the subject's website would be considered a "reliable source" for at least some aspects of the article, such as where the subject was born, etc. Are there other resources you could suggest besides newspaper articles? The author has bios on publishers' websites - such as the Candlewick website, etc - would those be considered a "reliable third party" source, or too close to the subject? Fablefriend (talk) 01:43, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

William Gedney

Hi, I was working on creating the William Gedney article and got a notice of copyright infringment. I didn't even get the chance to mark references. William Gedney is my cousin and the information I was using was public content. Not only that it took my words and removed them and then copied the entire article - that I was not using. Please remove William Gedney and I will again attempt to make a new article about him. Thank you.Outnbynd78 00:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry about removing it. Instead, create a draft page called User:Outnbynd78/William Gedney. You can work on it there until it's done, without much worry of anyone interrupting your efforts. They can, but you can revert them because it's a subpage of your userpage. After you have prepared it, along with sources, to the point that you are reasonably sure others won't object, post a proposal on the article's talk page to replace it with your draft. If there are no objections after a few days, copy it over the article. The Transhumanist 02:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

engraver's,printmakers

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 70.80.184.217 (talk) 12:54, 9 January 2008 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engraving[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engraving
Of Guns:

> • A. B. Bradshaw (Firearm Engraver) > • Thierry Duguet > • Ken Hunt (engraver) > • Harry Kell > • Harry Morris (sometimes Henry Morris) > • Jack Sumner Just for your information A B Bradshaw is probably one of the only copper plate engravers in the world working in the old style cross hatching. Prints (see also List of Printmakers):

   * Jacopo de' Barbari active 1500-1515
   * William Blake (1757 - 1827)
   * Giulio Campagnola active c1505-15
   * Albrecht Dürer (1471 – 1528)
   * Master ES active c1450-70 ... etc etc

As you will notice all in this style are dead. Mr Bradshaw works today and produces prints in the old style similar to Farnese Hercules.Check out the Kiss and The Christ on Mr Bradshaw's web site bothe copper plate engravings in old style. He prints with master printers in Canada. www.bradshawgunengraver.com As well as being a top gun engraver ,rare enough he is in a very rare catagory of print makers as well. Thank you70.80.184.217 (talk) 12:54, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

bank branches in nigeria

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 196.29.219.57 (talk) 14:21, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

pls, i want to know the number of bank branches in each 36 states of nigeria.
                                         thanks.—

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:08, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Questions regarding adding a public domain map to Wikipedia

Good Morning, I'm attempting to ad a correct, up to date map on the FasTracks program. I work at RTD-FasTracks in Denver Colorado for the Public Information office. Our office has personally created this map. It does not have a copy write. It is open and free for public use. I've tried inserting the picture and filling out the proper forms but keep getting a disclaimer on my picture and it's deleted after a few days.

This is a public domain - self created image. Exactly how do I need to go about saying that so the image uploads and remains in the topic field.

Thanks so much for your assistance.

Ozgirlcsp (talk) 17:00, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there and thanks for writing. As far as I can tell, the file Image:FTsystMapNoStrt.jpg was only deleted because you uploaded Image:FasTracks 2008 Map.jpg which was detected to be the identical image. If your question relates to something else, please clarify.

I should point out that despite what you've written above, in the image licensing you have asserted yourself as the copyright holder and licensed it out under the GNU Free Documentation License. If the image is supposed to be in the public domain, then you might want to replace the {{GFDL-self-no-disclaimers}} template on the image with an appropriate public domain template from here.

I also noticed that the image isn't being used anywhere, did you want to add it to the Regional Transportation District article?

Lastly, freely licensed and public domain images are most appropriately uploaded to Wikimedia Commons so that it can be used on all the different Wikimedia projects (e.g. any of the foreign language Wikipedias), not just here on the English language Wikipedia.

Hopefully I haven't thrown too much information at you all at once. If you need clarification, feel free to ask! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 19:46, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A Spanish Wikipedia link to Norbert Wallez isn't available in English, but it appears in a Google translation.

In the article on The_Adventures_of_Tintin, there is a link to Norbert Wallez that didn't connect. I looked it up on Google, and there it was in the Spanish Wikipedia. Google translated it fairly well. I wondered what the policy was about taking something such as that and copying it over to the English version. Dale662 (talk) 16:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you can begin by using the Google translation of the article in Spanish to translate it into English. After that, use the text there (but not the images) and paste it into the article in English. After that, place a translation template at the top of the article in English that looks like this:

{{RoughTranslation|Spanish}}

The code for the template is {{RoughTranslation|[[Spanish language|Spanish]]}}. I hope this works. Johnny Au (talk) 17:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can also add the link into the Spanish Wikipedia with [[es:Norbert Wallez]] at the bottom of the article. This is a foreign language link using the code es referring to the language's name in that language, which in this case is español. Johnny Au (talk) 17:28, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is also an article in French at fr:Norbert Wallez. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Contacting User

I have been trying to contact user SLP1 regarding edits to a certain article, but his page dos not conatin a link to contact him. Please assist me.

Nicemc (talk) 17:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC) Nicemc[reply]

I can't find a user SLP1, but there's a user Slp1. You can just leave a message on his/her talk page. • Anakin ^{(contribs • complaints)} 17:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Slp1 made signed comments on your talk page User talk:Nicemc. You can click "talk" in the signature and add a section to Slp1's talk page by clicking '+' at the top. Like many others, Slp1 has not enabled email from other users. It's much more common to communicate via talk pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blatant advertising

Molten Group

Please can you let me know how best to overcome the 'blatant advertsing' warning, as want to abide by Wikipedia policy.

We have put a lot of work into this article to make sure we have references and align with the format of other firms such as KPMG and Accenture.

Notable - Finalists in a number of entrepreneurial awards for a start ups.

Thanks Oyster007 (talk) 18:21, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like, having been speedily deleted a few times, someone has put Molten Group up for a regular deletion discussion. There, you can discuss the merits of the article, but it would be best to read up on Wikipedia policy first, in particular the notability guideline for corporations. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:16, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

redirecting page due to different way of spelling due to capitalization

Hi, I've looked through the FAQ and know that my answer lies somewhere in "redirecting due to capitalization" but I've tried to do it and it's just not working for me. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Help.

Problem: The title of the article I created Gina DeVivo can only be seen if you type it as Gina DeVivo. Most people will just type "gina devivo" but that won't bring them to the site. I can't figure out what or where I need to put the info to have it get redirected.

Thanks for the guidence! Also could you notify me on my talk page. I'm still having a hard time learning this site so I may not find my way back here. Thanks again.

Kim RingPOPmom (talk) 11:50, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since you created the article, I know you know how to create a page. Do so for each alternate name of the article for which you think a redirect should exist, i.e., create a page for the name gina devivo. Place in each such created new page the text: #REDIRECT [[Gina DeVivo]], and nothing else. Save the page. Voila. Anyone who types the name of the page you created will be redirected to the main article. For further information, please see Wikipedia:Redirect. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, when creating redirects, there are special templates that should be included that explain the purpose of the redirect, such as it being an alternate name, a sub-subject, other spelling, etc. It's all explained at WP:Redirect. Cheers! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 14:59, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of images

I would like to know why my images of XDC were deleted? I've tried several time to put images (with new information, sources,...) but each time, they are deleted. I don't understand what is wrong... I'm currently a trainee of this company, so they give me the autorization for all the images I put on Wikipedia. What can I do?Xdc-evs (talk) 12:53, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can stop spamming Wikipedia for your company. The images were deleted for various reasons, including WP:CSD#G11, WP:CSD#I1, WP:CSD#I5, WP:CSD#I14, WP:CSD#I19, etc. The real point is that so far you account has been used only for blatant advertizing purposes, as was your reason for uploading all these images. You have been blocked for 24 hours once for advertising, which obviously didn't get the point across since your asking for help here to upload more images for spam purposes. Do not upoad these images and do not make edits promoting your company.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:16, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See also: Wikipedia:Business FAQ, and Wikipedia is not Google. • Anakin ^{(contribs • complaints)} 18:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notability IN an article?

Hi, im trying to determine what information in a living person biography should be included as notable. I'm trying to fix Susan Bratton, which reads like a resume/advertisement. I'm not sure if this woman is even notable enough for Wikipedia. A lot of the content of the article is just over-the-top promotion. where can I find a guide to what content should be included (such as her companies, etc), and what shouldn't (such as where her family will move, how many facebook friends she has, etc)? thanks - --Daveblack (talk) 15:32, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. A good place to see some relevant guidance is at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Also if you're concerned about the subject's notability in general, you can tag the article with the {{notability}} template. Cheers! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 16:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Notability (people) (aka WP:BIO) is the guideline. My quick summary is that notability must be able to be verified through references to reliable sources. To oversimplify, if there are newspaper articles with enough information to write about a subject, then that subject is notable and those articles can verify the information in the Wikipedia article. If you cannot find newspaper web sites that provide information for an article, then the subject is not notable or verifiable and should be deleted. Sbowers3 (talk) 00:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Please try to help me fine the deractions ,or the words I sopost to use when I solicit clients by the phone. 99.230.106.159 (talk) 18:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Knowledge question can be asked at the reference desk. In any event, your question is very broad. I suggest reading out articles on Cold calling and Telemarketing, and possibly googling these terms.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:53, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Making footnotes work

Hi there!

I've just a fairly major expansion of the listing below. There are 45 footnotes in all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbhajan_Singh_Yogi#External_links

The problem is the material cited in the footnotes does not appear anywhere. I know there is a problem here because if I look at, for example - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_einstein - I see all the footnoted material shows up at the bottom of the page.

What can I do to make the first article come out with the footnoted material visible to readers?

Please reply to my talk page. Thanks.

Guru Fatha Singh Khalsa (talk) 21:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You were missing a References section and {{references}} template - a frequent mistake. I added them. Sbowers3 (talk) 00:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

how do I add an article?

How do I add a new article? Dcjjjbru (talk) 01:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quick Question

Are company's allowed to create wiki page informing the public about its history and background. Additionally, if the previous act is allowed, then may a direct link to the company webpage be permissable as well (we do not sell and of our products on our webpage, or online) Thanks for your time! 76.246.240.233 (talk) 01:12, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Writing an article about a company you are involved in is strongly discouraged. It creates a conflict of interest, which makes it very hard to write neutrally about the company, without advertising. If your company is truly notable, someone unaffiliated will come along and write an article about the company one day. A ecis^Brievenbus 01:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See also our Business' FAQ. A ecis^Brievenbus 01:17, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help - what to do about a talk page comment

Help! I have just made a couple of changes to the Marion Jones page, and found that the last section of the talk page has the following heading: "She is probably the finest American athelete ever. I don't care if she used steroids. She is great & I am a 65 year old WHITE male. Don't take the medals she deserves. She did it all for the USA !& I luv her`" This seems to me to be irrelevant to the purposes of the article or the talk page. Does this constitute vandalism? Or, should this be just left alone? Or make a comment that wikipedia is for verifiable information, not opnion? Or...? EdChem (talk) 11:08, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:TALK, one of the few times it is appropriate to edit someone's comment on a talk page is when you are "Deleting material not relevant to improving the article". Note that it's not vandalism, since it was presumably not made with the intention of wrecking Wikipedia, but it's not really appropriate, either. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 13:44, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. EdChem (talk) 13:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question about A new Wikipedia

I recently decided to make a wiki article but it got declined many times. It was about a guild in a video game. Why can't I make that? The article was Death Dragons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gumballs92 (talk • contribs) 19:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most likely, notability was an issue. Wikipedia:Notability JayhawkBrandon (talk) 22:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Death Dragons was speedily deleted for not asserting importance/significance of the subject, per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#A7. But it had a lot of other problems with Wikipedia's many policies and guidelines. It did not show notability of the subject. It was obviously written with a clear conflict of interest, saying "we" and "us" about Death Dragons. Note that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. The article appeared very unencyclopedic. It was also promotional, unsourced, failed Wikipedia:Verifiability, and written like a guide. I'm guessing it would be hard to find sources considered reliable sources by Wikipedia. It could have been deleted for a number of reasons but some of them would require a slower deletion process. Game guild/clan articles are usually deleted quickly. Wikipedia is not the place to promote a game clan. Some other websites would probably welcome this type of content. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Specific Category

How can I monitor changes in just one area of Wikipedia? I would like to help with the Law category, but don't want to wade through the great list of changes on the recent changes page for all of Wikipedia?

Thanks JayhawkBrandon (talk) 22:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The best way would be to "watch" pages. Stormin' Foreman ^{Got something to say?} 01:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can add specific articles to your watchlist. You can click "Related changes" in the toolbox at a category (see also Help:Enhanced recent changes). Maybe you would be interested in joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Law or one of the descendant WikiProjects. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:26, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sortable Columns

Is there a way to have 4 columns that are sortable in a table, but that have a cell spanning all 4 columns above, like this one? MrKIA11 (talk) 22:43, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not perfectly clear what you're asking, so I'm just giving you links to the help pages that seem relevant. For general help in creating tables, go to Help:Table, for instructions relating specifically to sortable tables, go to m:Help:Sorting. Hope this helps some, if not, stop back. Happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 18:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Links to other articles

Hello from a newbie. I created a page and am having trouble getting the links to other articles to show up. Just to be clear, I am talking about the blue words and phrases that should be there. After I created the page, I observed a box stating that there were few or none of these links. I tried clicking on the "try this tool" link (terminology please - what is the name of this tool?) and a nice table of possible links showed up. However I had no way to verify the links so I made the page go away. Now I would like that page to appear again, but I don't know how. If I click "try this tool" again, I get very few links in the table. I would like the tool to start over and do a complete scan again. I hope my question is clear - how do I make this tool appear and is there a separate URL for it rather than having to click on the "try this tool" link? Also, I tried to find the help page on this - where is the help page? Many thanks.

WWriter (talk) 05:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean the "can we link it" tool? You can see the tool's result here as a permalink. Also, if you'd like to create a link to another article on Wikipedia, just add [[ as a prefix and ]] as a suffix. For example, if I want to link to the moon I'd type [[moon]]. Hope that helps! Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 05:46, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For the help page on this matter, see here. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 05:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes, there are no instructions on how to answer an answer (please consider this a suggestion for the top of the page). Hope I do this right.

Yes, thanks, the "can we link it" tool is what I am talking about. If I had looked at the link URL I would have noticed that it resides at another domain. I guess I should go to the author to get my questions answered. Basically, I need a command or button to "Start over, I blew it, give me all the options again." WWriter (talk) 06:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see. I don't think that is supported by that tool; you could try manually linking fields of interest, or asking another experienced editor to help you. I would but I have to sleep; maybe tomorrow, when I get home from school, I can have a look. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 06:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pier Angeli's Biography (relationship with James Dean) source?

16:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)16:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)16:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)16:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)W12.73.126.193 (talk) 16:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC) The New Biographical Dictionary of Film by David Thomson page 21 "She was the (or a) beloved of James Dean, but her family disapproved of him."[reply]

Pier Angeli's relationship with James Dean was it personal?

The New Biographical Dictionary of Film by David Thomson page 21, "She was the (or a) beloved of James Dean, but her family disapproved of him." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goassmerwing (talk • contribs) 17:12, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you are referring to the current start of Pier Angeli#Later career and personal life. Do you have a question? You can edit the section by clicking the "edit" link to the right. Wikipedia:Citing sources may be of interest. You can discuss the article at Talk:Pier Angeli. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BURZAHOM

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Sadhusaar3 (talk) 18:16, 14 January 2008 (UTC) Burzahom, Distt. Srinagar, Jammu & Kashmir in the lap of Himalayas, is located 34 Digrees & 10 Minutes North and 73 Digrees & 54 Minutes East. The ancient mound crowned with a cluster of menhirs is at 4 km. distance from famous Shalimar Garden of Mughal Emperor Jehangir.[reply]

The Yale Cambridge Expedition 1935-39 led by H. de Terra and T.T.Patterson discovered the ancient site of Burzahom and found some bone and stone objects in a limited excavation carried out therein. Mainly due to the presence of menhirs the site was declared as of megalithic settlement.

(~'s)

Do you have a specific question about how to use Wikipedia, or how to contribute to Wikipedia? A ecis^Brievenbus 12:29, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fusion Cast/Low cost metal casting

A cheaper more environmental friendly way of casting metals. Requires no heat and as little as 30% metals. The process begins with a mold of the desired casting. Next a epoxy is mixed with the desired metals (metals depend on desired color) in powder form. the epoxy metal mix is then poured into the mold face down so the heavier metal can sink to the face. The mold then must be placed in a pressure chamber for 30 min at 40psi. once this is done a 12hour curing time is enough. The cured casting can simply polished, belted or sandblasted to bring out the metals shine! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4adambaker (talk • contribs) 19:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC) --4adambaker (talk) 19:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How does this relate to Wikipedia? And what is your question about Wikipedia? A ecis^Brievenbus 12:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notable Instruments

Hello, I'm plunking away on a page for Martie Maguire. Question: under "notable instruments" in the little box with the name, recording label, etc., what belongs and what does not? And, does it require referencing? Like, Natalie Maines is known to play acoustic guitar in concert, but no model of particular worth- would that even belong there? And in MY case, Maguire owns a 1920 Stradavarius violin, which I WOULD consider noteworthy- does it need referencing? Where? And what of her other instruments? Are they also notable? Thanks. --leahtwosaints (talk) 12:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Notable" is an interesting phrase to be used in that case, I would have thought "noteworthy" to be more appropriate, and that's how I would advise you to interpret it. The use of that violin does seem noteworthy, its a trademark thing, and I would go ahead and include it. It doesn't hurt to be WP:BOLD, and if it doesn't work out another editor can always come along and change it back.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 18:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly Deleted Page

I believe a page should be created which does not presently exist (at least,I can't find it using a search). I found a related page with a 'prod' tag, which I have removed (with reasons), and I'm wondering whether the page I have in mind might have been deleted in the past. How do I found out if a page existed previously but was deleted, or do I just go ahead and create, or is there another way to go? Help! Thanks. Jay*Jay (talk) 03:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there! The easiest way is to visit the Deletion log. Type the page name into the 'Title' field and click the 'Go' button. For example, entering Wild woompacha will result in this log. Hope that helps! Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 03:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, MoP - the deletion log was exactly what I sought. :) Jay*Jay (talk) 04:09, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

deleted bio, authorization

I recently added my client's bio to Wikipedia and provided a reference (his web page) and it was removed. He is a platinum selling German music producer who moved to Los Angeles last year. He is releasing an album next month and we wanted to make his bio available for viewing by the general public. Do I need to provide more references? Please contact me on my talk page.

Baird73 (talk) 03:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Answered on user's talk page as requested. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 03:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Link removal policy?

I'm fairly new to Wikipedia and wanted to make sure I know policies regarding adding or removing links and how to contact someone to ask them why they remove the link.

I've read the policy regarding deleting pages. Is there a similar policy regarding deleting external links at the end of an entry? Are there strict criteria regarding what is and isn't suitable as an external link source?

Also, can you send personal messages to other Wikipedia users? I would like to ask the person who removed it why it was removed, but I'm not sure if I can do it in private. If we could discuss it without making a scene, that would probably be good. Globalistgirl (talk) 06:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:External links. You can contact another user on their user talk page. It's visible to everybody but others will probably not respond. Some users can be emailed via "E-mail this user" in the toolbox to the left when you are on their user page or talk page, but communication via talk pages is much more common. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:14, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have added an external link to a website with your username Globalistgirl. If you are associated with the site then you have a conflict of interest and should not add external links to it per Wikipedia:External links#Advertising and conflicts of interest. Instead you can suggest the link on the article talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i would like to know if i payed for i wyin or not,9.99 is takeing out of band eash mo. so as of now, i quit this station this date jas 117 2008 thank you edward t evans sr

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Oldsgted (talk) 19:22, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blood Mountain (The Movie)

It is a story of serial killer and its not based on true story, the film is being shot in the Blood Mountain.

Staring Lisa Williams, Robert Hatch, George Lee, Teresa Fahs. Produced & directed by Parthiban Shanmugam

"This film is a work of fiction. Any similarities to persons living or dead is purely coincidental"