Talk:Bombing of Darwin

The columns in the battlebox are off-centre; this doesn't seem to be happening with other pages. Can anyone fix it? Thanks. Grant65 (Talk) 10:48, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

Decisive Battle

Since when was a air raid killing less then 250 a Decisive battle in WW2.

Flags

I added small flags to the infobox which was reverted, I thought they were common to use in infoboxes such as in Vietnam War or Korean War --- Astrokey44 13:10, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Warboxes maybe, but battleboxes no. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Battles. Gdr 13:25, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Merging in Darwin 1942

To me there doesn't appear to be anything at Darwin 1942 which is not in this article, except for the figure of "40 ships", which I haven't checked. What do others think? 12:45, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

If there is anything in it that can be used, fine. Otherwise, delete it. I included the merge tag because it looked like someone was working on it. Bjelleklang - talk 13:50, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Insignificant Attack?

The article states that the attack was less that significant, yet over 250 people still lost their lives in this attack, and any loss of life can be deemed significant. ^Talk User:Fissionfox 11:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

The article actually states that the attack was less significant than the attack on Pearl Harbour. Seeing as the attack on Pearl started the Pacific War and crippled much of the US fleet I think that this is a fair statement. Darwin was a significant Allied base in February 1942, but the attack on Pearl Harbour led to a greater loss of life and had a much bigger impact on the war. --Nick Dowling 12:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

Change title from Bombing of Darwin (February 1942) to Bombing of Darwin. Later redirects to former. No reason for two articles, one about all bombings of Darwin (which this should be) and one specific bombing. 199.125.109.107 (talk) 05:26, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Moved from RM:

• Darwin has only been bombed once. No need for the date in the title. — Ben (talk) 17:17, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
  • The 2nd paragraph of page Bombing of Darwin (February 1942) says that Darwin was attacked from the air 58 other times. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 19:30, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Sorry about that, I ended up writing a mini essay on why the article should be at Bombing of Darwin, and quickly chopped it down and hit submit without checking before I had to run off. There were many bombings, but only one of particular note. All the attacks are discussed in the current article, and it's unlikely separate articles will ever be created for subsequent bombings. At the moment, Bombing of Darwin redirects to the current article, and since no other articles are every likely to be created, it really should be the other way around. Ben (talk) 20:11, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose As Darwin was bombed dozens of times the name of the article should be clear that this is only about a single raid. Some of the later raids were large and could support their own article, and there's scope to write an article on the entire series of raids. Nick Dowling (talk) 06:10, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

  If a split ever occurs you can rename it then. For now this article covers all of the bombings of Darwin and does not require a misleading qualifier. 199.125.109.107 (talk) 14:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually, Air raids on Australia, 1942–43 covers the subsequent bombings, not this article. This article has only a single sentence all of the raids which followed the initial one while that article identifies each of the 57 other raids. Nick-D (talk) 07:22, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

In other words, both articles cover the other raids, but this other article has more detail. If this move goes ahead, it's probably appropriate to expand the coverage in this article a little. Andrewa (talk) 09:40, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. The entirety of this article's coverage of the other raids is "After the massive 19 February 1942 Japanese raid, the Northern Territory and parts of Western Australia's north were bombed 62 more times between 4 March 1942 and 12 November 1943.[18] One of the heaviest attacks took place on 16 June 1942 when a large Japanese force set fire to the oil fuel tanks around the harbour and inflicted severe damage to the vacant banks, stores and railway yards.". This is rather lacking in detail, and doesn't even come close to providing adequate coverage of the other attacks. If it's decided that this article should cover the other raids (and, I presume, the massive build-up of Australian and US combat units in the Northern Territory which both responded to the raids and led to further Japanese attacks as the Japanese feared that the Allies were developing Darwin into a base for offensive operations) then several paragraphs will need to be written so that it actually does this. Nick-D (talk) 10:07, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Since the other article covers all of the raids of Australia and this article is the only one to focus on Darwin it seems to make more sense to rename this article Bombing of Darwin and include in it the list of the other times that Darwin was bombed. 199.125.109.107 (talk) 03:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

• Support. This article deals with all bombings of Darwin to date, and no split is likely, so the disambiguator is unnecessary. Andrewa (talk) 15:47, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
• Support - As per Andrewa. Totally breaks naming conventions - brackets indicate a disambiguator, there are no other articles to disambiguate it from! -- Chuq (talk) 10:23, 5 November 2008 (UTC)