Talk:Robinho

Extending the Article

Has anyone thought of extending the article, the player deserves a better one than this —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bulkroosh (talk • contribs) 21:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

About his age

First of all I'd like to point out, that personaly I don't have a specific opinion on the issue of his age. Apparently as some users claimed he stated on "Real Madrid TV" he was 19 making his year of birth 1988. Official sources (and that's still what counts on Wikipedia) state his year of birth as 1984 (which currently makes him 23). Unless the official sources get changed (which I highly doubt) he was born in 1984. This is what the Wikipedia article has to reflect, nothing else.
About the reasons for claiming to be only 19 one can only speculate. However it's likely that in a sport where with 30 people think your pretty old there is a tendency to make oneself younger (a lot of stars as well as normal people do that when stating their age).
But just because you wish to be 19 doesn't mean you actualy are. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, we deal in facts, not in wishes.
1redrun ^Talk 10:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Besides, "I saw it on TV" is not a verifiable claim. Alexf^{(Talk/Contribs)} 10:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

FIFA.COM lists his birthdate as 25/01/1984 (Jan 25, 1984) when listing Brazil's roster for the 2006 World Cup. I don't know if this is documentation enough or not, but 1988 is clearly wrong. If he was born in 1988, he would have been 14 when he was an instrumental player in Santos' National Championship run in the fall or 2002...Galen13 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Galen13 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Robinho nickname at some sites/newspapers

It`s not necessary to add it to the article but some sites/newspapers, especially the Brazilian football news site Futebol do Interior [1] nickname him Ingrato (ungrateful one) [2] because he turned his back to Santos when he was trying to leave the club to join Real Madrid. He intentionally missed 1 month of training and Brazilian League matches during that period. PMLF 05:24, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Robinho the black pearl

Although real madrid are the best team in the world because of the 9 champion league record i think they should play robinho right wing. His creativity, pace and STEP-OVERS will really help him, it will also help him to get into the brazil squad because brazil are known to make a lot of world class strikers and they lack right mids. David Beckham aint really doing that well playing right mid, i saw robinho play, he's got good crosses which is very usefull there.

That may be but this is not a message board, it's a discussion of the article. Maybe you could find some articles that suggest this and include this in the article? It is an interesting idea Oreo man 19:05, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

"Maradona peaked at a much younger age than Pele "

I deleted this because it's 100% false. With 17 years old Pele won the world cup and was considered the best player in the world. A 19 year old Maradona was not even called for the 78 world cup.

External Links

What happened to all the external links? some of the websites had very informative pieces which complimented the article. Can somebody help me put them back?

I removed them because most were just fan sites. If there is specific information on those sites, then add it to the article and cite the site as the source. Clearing out the official pages was an accident, so thank you for putting those back. --SparqMan 19:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Arrival

It says he joined his fellow Brazilians including Cicinho, who didnt arrive until 6 months After Robinho.

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was no consensus to move —Mets501 (talk) 03:58, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

Robson de Souza → Robinho or Robinho Paulista — Someone moved the page because the name Robinho not unique. But the currently Real Madrid player famous enough to just shorten to one word likes Ronaldo. Matthew_hk tc 11:38, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Survey

Add  * '''Support'''  or  * '''Oppose'''  on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.

Oppose - Better to leave at his actual name, unless he is only known by the nickname. Certainly that "Paulista" is wrong. -- Beardo 16:34, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Support - Brazilian soccer players go by one name and in the context of the world game, Robinho refers only to one individual, the one in question. If in the future there are other Robinho's, in Brazilian fashion they will get something added to distinguish them (i.e. Ronaldinho Gaucho, Juninho Pernanbucano, etc).Galen13 15:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

Add any additional comments:

• Paulista is the Demonym of Sao Paulo state. It use to disambiguate people, likes Juninho Matthew_hk tc 11:40, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

• • I checked, there is many Robson de Souza, with different middle names. Matthew_hk tc 16:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Birth Place

Is the São Vicente where Robinho was born in the São Paulo state or the one in Rio Grande do Norte? I am assuming São Paulo. Can someone confirm this and make the change? Galen13 16:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

He was born in São Vicente, São Paulo state, according to the Brazilian Football Confederation. --Carioca 06:52, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Stats

His stats for the 2006-07 season don't add up correctly.

Robinho Aresnal Move

I have found no info on the Net about Robinho moving to Arsenal in exchange for Reyes. I think the last part in the Media coverage about this should be removed as there are no sources mentioned about this. Grahambo2005 11:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 08:43, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Shame on Wikipedia.

Some writers decided that Robinho's era in Real Madrid had already ended. And to our surprise, Robinho eventually stays in Madrid. What can you say about that? (I'm talking about previous versions that stated in the template that Robinho's part in Madrid is from 2005 to 2008) HaGamal 20:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Disagree. What happens is that you have many over-eager editors, plus vandals thrown in for good measure, that report rumors, or invent them, even though they are repeatedly told that rumors are not encyclopedic and transfers only happen when contracts are signed and they can show reliable sources. Happens to many players' articles when the transfer windows are open. It's a constant battle to keep these articles clean during those times. What can you do? You can help by watchlisting these players, trying to revert, and explain to the editors why we need reliable sources. -- Alexf⁴² 21:15, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

He's Gone

A Source In Spanish But Pretty Clear Stating That He Has Gone To Man City [3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whittlepedia (talk • contribs) 22:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

There is an official communication on the Madrid site.[4] Now if someone would just stop deleting it... Chelseabob (talk) 22:28, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Just because a club has an agreement to sell a player doesn't make him transferred already. The player has to sign a contract with the new club. There's no proof yet that Robinho has agreed to sign with Manchester City. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.100.18.77 (talk) 22:36, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Hasnt gone yet, window shut, no announcement. makes him a real madrid player in my eyes. revert? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.56.125.24 (talk) 23:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

The deal has been confirmed by both clubs and managers. Just because the deal wasn't announced before the midnight deadline doesn't mean that it wasn't completed in time. DJDannyP//Talk2Me 23:12, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

He's signed, but it says "playing for Manchester City" which is not correct - he hasn't done so yet. He has signed for them but has not yet played for them. 91.108.16.194 (talk) 23:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

City move

Please only used sourced information, especially at a time such as this, when lots of people will be visiting the page, and Wikipedia should seek to maintain its highest standards. Yohan euan o4 (talk) 23:40, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

C.F.'s and F.C.'s

Why have we got all these in the team names? It seems a bit redundant for an article that is unmistakably about football. People normally just say Santos, Real Madrid, Chelsea, and Manchester City, and it's unambiguous enough. Rameses The Ram (talk) 22:25, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Because some football teams have very similar names, where only the CF's, FC's, AC's and so on are the difference in names. To avoid any confusion, it's better to choose the correct term. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonaslind (talk • contribs) 16:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

£160,000 a week?

since any talk of wages is speculative, should this be included? i keep deleting it but it keeps popping back up....... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.19.50 (talk) 22:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Inconsistance

On the personal information box it says:

Santos - 104 appearances, 44 goals Real Madrid - 109 appearances, 36 goals Manchester City - 16 appearances, 11 goals

However at the "Statistics" bit it says:

In the league: Real Madrid - 101 appearances, 25 goals

One of them must be wrong.