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South Park
Surely something more should be mentioned about the South Park parodies of Barbra.
Why? That's surely something for the South Park page. --natz 08:18, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
- Disagree, as it shows her enormous influence beyond into a deep loud imprint on popular culture jewish, whether positive, negative, supportive, or jealous. Even other supposedly iconic stars or singers, even first-name megastars who have forayed into acting, don't have this kind of impact. Thus I'd recommend a Pop Culture section, but perhaps hold off on it to include both positive and negative, so that it doesn't come off like a token spiteful stab by unprofessional editors. Until that time, South Park is 11th on the "what links here" (for experienced users of WP)).Santaduck 08:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
I second that motion (to include popular culture section) Drew 02:20, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- Me too, even if it is mostly negative, this is supposed to be unbiased, is there any other 'influences on pop culture' that couldbe added?
- How about the Cawfee Tawk skits in Saturday Night Live, where the Mike Myers/Linda Richman character is also referencing her? (And in one skit, she actually showed up as a surprise SNL guest.) Also, the movie Waiting for Guffman has a line where one of the characters, praising Corky, says "he can sing AND direct AND produce...and the only other person who can do all that...is Barbra Streisand." 64.132.218.10 22:25, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- The SNL skit is noteworthy in that it involves a personal appearance, and it was a recurring skit. References to her in dialog of a movie seems less noteworthy but certainly can be referenced in a pop culture section. As to the South Park episode, it definitely should be mentioned, but no more than other pop culture references. Streisand is not loved universally and her criticisms should be noted. Also, aside from the Godzilla reference in South Park, they also used her face as "Spooky Vision" in one of their Halloween episodes, which emphasizes the Streisand/South Park connection. Now if Streisand were as big as the Catholic church, I could see it being less than noteworthy, but there are hundreds of articles on Catholocism, and I am sure one or more of them reference the South Park view on Catholics, but unless there is a separate article like Barbara Streisand and popular culture, this information should be here. Bytebear 17:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- How about the Cawfee Tawk skits in Saturday Night Live, where the Mike Myers/Linda Richman character is also referencing her? (And in one skit, she actually showed up as a surprise SNL guest.) Also, the movie Waiting for Guffman has a line where one of the characters, praising Corky, says "he can sing AND direct AND produce...and the only other person who can do all that...is Barbra Streisand." 64.132.218.10 22:25, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
In general, Wikipedia files miscellaneous trivial cultural references away and doesn't include them in the articles. It appears in many cases that the reasons for this are BOTH that the information is unimportant trivia, of which there is an ENORMOUS amount if you include every cultural reference to Barbra Streisand, AND the fact that the included references seem to be biased by partisans of particular items, trying to claim more territory by being connected to more different items. The South Park fandom seems to be particularly excessive at this, inserting South Park references into any article about anything or anyone ever mentioned on South Park. The very fact that there are special Jesus (South Park) and Satan (South Park) pages should say all that needs to be said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.178.36 (talk) 20:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Who her husband?
Could someone quote a source for the statement that Barbra Streisand is now married to Barry Dennen? I'm quite prepared to believe it, but I can't find any mention of it on her fan sites or anywhere else for that matter. Deb 19:05, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Barbra Streisand is definetly Not married to Dennen. Her second- and current- husband is actor James Brolin! 21:58, 30 January 2005 145.254.88.96
Yentl and Prince of Tides snubs
Yentl wasn't nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars (although Streisand wanted it to be). Prince of Tides was the movie where she was nominated for producing the best picture but was not nominated as director. 02:12, 22 July 2005 Syd Henderson
- Agreed. I've made clarifications to this effect and added a cite. Wasted Time R 01:30, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Image:Barbra.jpg
I've taken out Image:Barbra.jpg as it does not have information on its source. JuntungWu 16:03, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
- Any replacements? Bill D 00:11, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Neutrality
Not a neutral article by any stretch of the imagination. --The Bad Tax Man 11:36, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- Too pro-, too anti-, what? Specifics would help. Wasted Time R 01:30, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- For one thing, there's no mention of Streisand in popular brilliant culture. She is a frequent subject of parody, but this remains unmentioned in the article. Fishhead64 20:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- Don't think that has to do with neutrality, but with the fact that this is not part of her own work / biography. This page should be about the person who's name is on top of the page, not how others approach him/her. Also, the idiotic way in which this article has been vandalised recently with utter non-sense has probably caused the opposite radical clean-up effect within Streisand supporters... --natz 08:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
- For one thing, there's no mention of Streisand in popular brilliant culture. She is a frequent subject of parody, but this remains unmentioned in the article. Fishhead64 20:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. Talking about her being "snubbed" for Oscars is POV. You either are nominated or you aren't. Talk of "snubbing" is subjective. Some mention also of her rather long and protracted and unsuccessful suit against the guy who took pictures of her house for coastal studies would also be an interesting inclusion. George Bluth 06:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
There seems to be no criticism here either and going on about neutrality, taliking about a 'well intentioned mother' and so on. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.105.139.253 (talk • contribs). It also seems you can't post when it's negative but true about her or KittenKlub deletes it.Tannim 18:30, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- You failed to provide a functioning link, the relevance of your addition is questionable and your addition only serve to add negative commentary to the page. Please read: WP:V, WP:NOT, WP:NPOV and WP:BIO KittenKlub 18:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- Because you have a problem reading: "This article must adhere to the policy on biographies of living persons. Controversial material of any kind that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous." KittenKlub 18:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- And continuing a revert war, using sock puppets and continuing after being banned for WP:3RR means that you make bad faith edits. KittenKlub 20:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Listen you do not have the right to determine what is legitimate edit. Rueters is an internationally accepted new source. As you have proven too immature to discuss issues rationaly go back to playing with crayons.Tannim
- First there is no such thing as Rueters. Second I have a right to determine what is a legitimate edit and take action if I feel that it is not a legitimate edit. Third since you cannot provide a link and the other edit was equally dubious, I seriously doubt whether it was ever published, since it sounds extremely unlikely. It is a negative comment and is only allowed if it is relevant (which your edit is not) and I seriously doubt your edits because you can't even spell the news agency. KittenKlub 21:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Article in a bad way
This article had gotten into a wretched state: a section deleted by vandalism and forgotten, a likely copyvio and npov insertion in another section, some ridiculous claims about record sales, bogus album links ... am fixing. Wasted Time R 03:32, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
social anxiety?
Has Streisand ever suffered from social anxiety disorder? Or was it just stage fright and anxiety? Gflores Talk 19:47, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
- Would be just straight forward stage fright, same as what many performers suffer from. --natz 20:44, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
FWIW, I heard Streisand tell her audience that she suffers from "stage fright", October 2006 Bellagio99 00:34, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Why did my additions get deleted?
I am very livid that someone removed the additions I made to her music bio last night. I didn't make anything up, I fleshed it out a bit. I added in FACTS (not rumors) about parts of Streisand's 70's and 80's output, only to find it removed in the morning and not only that, get a nasty message calling me a vandal?
Why am I a vandal for recognizing "Putting It Together: The Making of The Broadway Album" a TV special, which it was?
Why am I a vandal for pointing out that she had top 10 dance hits with "Shake Me Wake Me" and "Night Of My Life"? If you don't believe me, check it out yourself.
Why am I a vandal for going into a little detail about a few of her albums, such as "Guilty", "Lazy Afternoon" and "Memories"?
Why am I a vandal for talking about her failed attempt at MTV pop stardom with "Emotion"?
I spent about an hour fleshing some of the stuff out last night only to rudely find everything I put down. I am very offended and ticked off because I didn't do a freaking thing wrong.
To me, the vandals are the people who deleted my work just to be jerks. I am a Streisand fan and it ticks me off that my work gets deleted (umm... you don't get the time back?) because I thought the "Music Bio" on her was lacking and wanted to add more.
Hello. I haven't seen your contributions, so I can't weigh in on either side. I'm just writing to comment on how poorly this article is written and organized. It is a shame to Wikipedia. I'm not a rabid Streisand fan, nor one of her equally rabid critics, but this article is terrible: 1. Skeletal in size and scope. Absurd that a singer and actress of this importance (whether you like her, hate her, or are just interested in reading an encyclopedia article about her) is treated so cursorily. Check Frank Sinatra or Ella Fitzgerald; the differences are appalling. That is to say: This article should have, at a minimum: (1) A detailed history of her career, films, TV appearances, and most importantly, recordings, with appropriate links; (2) a brief summary of her personal life; (3) a brief summary of her effect and place in contemporary culture, and (4) some comments on miscellaneous and anecdotal nature. Someone, please, re-do this article in an unbiased way, free from POV or outrageous statements either pro or con. If you don't, I will take my life in my hands and be compelled to try. 66.108.4.183 16:43, 13 July 2006 (UTC) Allen Roth
Voice
Does anyone know her octave range or her longest note
Her voice range is one of a lyric soprano. This is based on her tressitura (normal range) when singing. ~~KCQuest
Copyvio
Rossrs deleted the section 2006 Tours. This section was copied from Yahoo News, and as such violates copyright. Copyright © 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. Copyright © 2006 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Please refrain from copying from other websites and news sources. PrometheusX303 12:56, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Spelling?
Barbra or Barbara? This article seems to switch back and forth with no consistency. I know she changed her name, so I can understand referring to her as Barbara up until the point that happened, but the intro, and any subsequent discussion of her career should have Barbra, no? Thoughts? RRB 09:17, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
- In court documents filed in May 2003 in the Superior Court of the State of California, County of Los Angeles (Case No. SC077257), she is identified as "Barbra Streisand". Most Wikipedia biographical articles seem to use the approach of giving a person's most common name or stage name, then followed by "born <birthname>", but otherwise using the stage name or current name consistently throughout. —QuicksilverT @ 05:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Weasel words?
I'm kind of new, but I saw what I think you call "weasel words" in a couple places. One is under Film Career, specifically the part "snubbed for Best Director".
"There was controversy when Yentl received five Academy Award nominations but none for the major categories of Best Picture, Actress, or Director [3]. There was more controversy when Prince of Tides received even more nominations, including Best Picture, but Streisand was snubbed for Best Director."
Another one under 2006: The Return, specifically the use of "unfortunately" seems not very neutral:
"In early October, after a skit that made fun of President George W. Bush, and a man yelling taunts at her, she said, "Shut the fuck up if you can't take a joke." Unfortunately some present heard it differently, and say the man was yelling words of support which Ms. Streisand misheard or misinterpreted as heckling."
And also under Personal Life, specifically the use of "temerity" seems not neutral:
"On October 10 2006, she swore at a fan who had the temerity to ask her to perform rathar than spout Bush hate speech."
What do you think, are these a problem? Chuva 17:17, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
What's the problem if you are reporting an incendent?Tannim 11:30, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
religion not important
i had to remove the reference to her family being jewish. it isnt relevant. Keltik31 16:42, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. She would not have done Yentl otherwise. And her background is reflected in her political views. Her Jewish background has had a huge influence on her life. 66.151.81.244 17:39, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Do we mention the religious background of everyone? When I saw the Biography of Henry Winkler, they mentioned he was Jewish about four or five times. Is there something extra special about being Jewish that makes it necessary? I saw many episodes of Biography that never mentioned the person’s religion. 205.147.247.50 22:05, 1 November 2006 (UTC)205.147.247.50 22:06, 1 November 2006 (UTC)Keltik31 22:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't really care one way or the other too much, personally I'd put it back in. But I just want to put up for consideration the religious / ethnic haziness that exists with the special case of "Jewish." While one doesn't always mention someone's religion, we would be more likely to reference their ethnicity. The fact that Barbra Streisand is Jewish is well known, frequently noted, and reflected in her professional history. It's not like we are saying "John Smith, who by the way is a big JEW, ..." If there was a list of "famous jewish performers" who would be at the top? Sadena 23:56, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- She is listed in the List of Jewish American musicians and the List of Jewish actors and actresses, so aparently her Jewish heritage is important. It should be categorized rather than a list, though. Oh, and Paula Abdul is first because it is alphabetical. Bytebear 05:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Her religion is Important as much as Guandi's religion was important. her religion influenced her life and actions for example: Barbra Streisand's first Broadway role was in the "Diary of Anne Frank" That was important. I think she would be proud of being referenced as a famous "Jewish" person as much as I could be referenced as a Christian.Ace ofgabriel 15:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC) 30 December 2006
The fact that someone would say that religion is not important seems a bit ignorant. Is there any citations for the reasoning that it wouldn't be than that should be brought up. A number of articles do talk about religion in terms of biography. Just because on media outlet chooses not to highlight the fact that he or she is Jewish, Christian, or whatever doesn't mean we here at Wikipedia should follow suit. I mean if this person is an ethnic Jew than it should be mentioned because in reality part of Wikipedia is not to confirm what we already know, but to have the reader learn something new. There should be a section on how religion has influenced her life. Mr. C.C. (talk) 07:20, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Peacock terms
This article is full of peacock terms, and I fear will have them added again and again. Please keep in mind this style guide when editing this page. Bytebear 18:54, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Barbra??
Does anyone know why her name is spelled Barbra in the article title? Can this be fixed? Cleo123 23:48, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- Because it's her name as noted in the third paragraph of this article. --ElKevbo 00:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- She changed her name from Barbara to Barbra early in her career - I always found that very clever. It is a bit of waste of a vowel, after all. --natz 20:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Politics
User:JoshuaZ's recent edit about the Media Research Center's Barbra Streisand Political IQ Award for Celebrity Vapidity was removed as "vandalism and section unsupported by any citations". But the events described really did take place. See the www.mediaresearch.org site, and subsequent numerous references to it via Google, for yourself for their awards, which they having been bestowing upon political activists since 2002. Mention of the wards might arguably belong only on the MRC article, but some mention of Barbra's politcal activism definitely belongs in her article. — Loadmaster 23:37, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- Okay. Add it back in but add the references, too. It was completely unreferenced and that's why I removed it (the vandalism was a more recent edit by another editor). --ElKevbo 23:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- The Drudge Report is described in this article as a "conservative" outlet, but according to the Drudge article, research shows it leans left, and is more libertarian than most. Bytebear 08:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Why should Drudge be allowed to define his own politics separately from his documented actions, any more than any other politician? Or, to be more specific, until Bush, libertarian WAS conservative, and in most ways it still is. They make a show of supporting INDIVIDUAL freedom, but most "liberal" or "progressive" politics are about organization, not individualism. Similarly, "left" in America has been defined by the right for the last couple of decades. Is Drudge "left-leaning" according to INTERNATIONAL standards (i.e. socialist)?Bren Flibig (talk) 20:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
This section puts too much emphasis on her bad grammar. Only the first sentence provides any information about her political involvement. The rest of the section serves only to ridicule her by citing little known groups. Jackaranga 04:38, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree totally with Jackaranga's comment, although some of the groups aren't little-known. As it stands, the section is totally unbalanced, with more time devoted to relatively trivial attacks than to Streisand's own views. I have tried to tone down the attack part frequently, but someone(s) keeps inserting them. As a relatively new Wikipedian, I am up for discussion on this as to how to proceed. Bellagio99 01:58, 30 December 2006 (UTC) 23 December 2006
Birth Year
Barbra was born in 1942. Friends of mine went to school with her, and one even dated her. Bellagio99 15:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Can someone please update/remove the line below from Chelsea.
Chelsee was here! =] Im doing her for my research paperrrr. ahh ha ha ha.
It appear at the end of "Singing Career". It's cyber graffiti.
- So.. learn how to edit and do it yourself.
Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.241.87.51 (talk) 20:15, 26 April 2007 (UTC).
Discography
Has there been discussion about a discography? I think that it should be included since the article talks a great deal about her successes as a recording artist. ThanksBroadwaygal 18:45, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
- There is a separate Discography article at Barbra Streisand discography. People separate out info like this from long articles, so that the article does not exceed the recommended WP article length. Best regards, -- Ssilvers 23:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Dating Prusak
Dear Wikipediarules2221 (and others) I was the one who put Larry Prusak on the dating Barbra Streisand page, and I am going to put it back. I understand your deletion, but Prusak is the guru in computer-based knowledge management. And definitely a notable by WP standards, even if he doesn't have a WP entry;-). 34,5000 hits on Google today. He, himself, told me that he had dated Streisand in high school.Bellagio99 14:02, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Germany
The reasons given for Streisand's not performing in Germany before 2007 are based on mere speculation. As long as Streisand herself (or a reliable source quoting Streisand) does not confirm these rumours, they have no place in a serious Wikipedia article. Streisand has never performed in Continental Europe before (INCLUDING Germany)...until the summer of 2007. Therefore, I have removed this unproven statement from this article.
- But wasn't the German stuff sourced to a reliable newspaper? And are you sure that she hasn't performed in continental Europe before? Is that sourced? Bellagio99 00:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
All newspaper articles were based on speculation.....and poor research. Check Streisand's official website wwww.barbrastreisand.com. This is her first continental tour ever. How could she have avoided Germany when she has never performed ANYWHERE on the continent? Streisand did a promotional tour of Germany for her movie YENTL in 1984, with TV appearances, press conferences and interviews. So much for "boycotting" a country! Nellov5 11:19, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- Dear Nellov5, Thanks for pointing me to the site. I went, but couldn't find anything pertaining to this matter, except a brief note saying it was her first concert in Germany. Could you provide more specifics. Bellagio99 12:16, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Go to the start page, click on "Read All News" in the "Headlines" section. Scroll down to the very bottom of the page. There you will find an article with the following headline: "First Ever Barbra Streisand Tour Of Continental Europe and a Return To UK After 13 Years"
"It was announced today that Barbra Streisand, who received rave reviews for her US tour (see below), will perform live in Continental Europe this June and July for the very first time in her celebrated career. " http://www.barbrastreisand.com/index.php?page=news&n_id=286
Nellov5 00:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yup,you're right. It's at the end of a scroll-down. Nothing about dealing with feelings about Germans though. So the real news is first-ever tour of the Continent. Bellagio99 00:22, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Streisand ridiculed in UK press
This article ridicules the singer for including poorly-researched local details into her performance in Manchester, including a somewhat unlikely claims to like black pudding and the non-local Cumberland sausage. Nick Cooper 13:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
She has been referenced at least four times in the Simpsons and not three. In the later series Homer is talking about Streisand and says "and yes James Brolin has really been a rock"
Privacy lawsuit and the Streisand Effect
Should be a mention of the Streisand_effect and the case behind it. Yes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.93.40.145 (talk) 21:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Typo?
"Somoan" should be "Samoan", yes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.130.131.191 (talk) 10:33, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
"Greatest" assertion
"Striesand is considered to be the Greatest Living Entertainer." Considered -- by whom? Source, please, or remove this statement. Unimaginative Username 01:53, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for rm. Certified sales are factual data from which readers can draw their own conclusions. Much better than an article making POV assertions of "greatness". Regards, Unimaginative Username 02:08, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
This article is Garbage
I can not honestly believe this article. I mean this is one of the biggest stars of the 20th Century and this article doesnt even really go into anything about her carreer. It makes her look like some twobit. But anyone who breathed a decade in the 20th Century knows that Barbra Streisand is as big if not bigger in terms of recognition and star power than either Michael Jackson or Madonna. Successful Actor, Director, Producer, Broadway Star, Singer, and lets not forget preformer. She is considered to be or have been among the best in every one of those catigories. I mean as an actress she ranks with Hepburn and Julie Andrews. In the music business she is the best selling Female artist in the United States, ahead of Madonna. Not to mention that she raised Bill Clinton from obscurity, and raised him bucketloads of money to finance his primary campaign. This article is utterly shameful. --134.117.151.251 (talk) 19:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Those are all great points, and you are free to edit this article and add those details to it. I would recommend doing a little research and finding reliable sources to each of those points, add them to the article. Bytebear (talk) 19:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- I agree, this article is trash. Barbra deserves more! I mean, I don't even see a mention of the May 7th, 1978 ABC special of Israel's 30th Anniversary where Barbra sang. This article needs to include more of Barbra's legacy. 1DmkIIN (talk) 03:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Girl !
Barbara Streisand: reading in the sites of: Chaka Khan: Wikipedia, the fre encyclopedia: written a few minutes ago: you are my girl: girl you know it´s true: Barbara Streisand=Chaka Khan=Aretha Franklin=Mariah Carey=Nadiya: now you know: step into your own life: AFT and EFT: you are my girl: girl you know it´s true ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.183.131.170 (talk) 09:39, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Removed Information
Hi Dalburry, I'm sorry I made the mistake of not mentioning the change of the Barbara Striesand page before doing so, my intention was to not start any controversy at all. However the portion that I deleted was pov and had nothing to do with the source provided. The source provided was from RIAA detailing the top selling artists in America, the statment I removed from the page was this,
"She is widely considered to be the the #1 selling female solo artist in history."
This statement is POV and does n interpret the RIAA information correctly, simply because the RIAA is an American based company and does not track worldwide sales. Barbara might be the best selling musician in the US without any doubt, but in "history"? I doubt that and the source provided does not prove that at all. PhoenixPrince (talk) 09:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- 1. If that was you editing as 69.209.221.227, you didn't leave an edit summary. It is always a good idea to leave an edit summary to help other editors understand what you have done. 2. As I'm sure you noticed, I did not restore the statement you found POV, but substituted a statement that actually is supported by the source. -- Donald Albury 19:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
foreign language
somebody knows how many foreign languages she knows?
Girl !
Barbara Streisand: reading in the sites of: Ercan Saatci: Vikipedi: not to translate: Brenda Song: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: Discussion: you must to search: the actores have their projects: combinate the movies for the projects: until to a&r: Barbara Streisand: you are my girl: you know our love is: www. you tube com. de, broadcast yourself, search for: California Love: wishing you the best to the awards: girl you know it´s true ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.6.199.40 (talk) 04:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Roslyn Kind
Uhhh... correct me if I'm wrong (seriously, do) but it seems kind of ridiculous to me to have the name of Streisand's sister link to a redirect page that brings it right back to this one. I'd destroy the whole loop but I'm unsure whether there's some strange, obscure reason for its existence so for now I'm just going to de-wikify the name. If someone else who knows better than I wants to take further action, more power to you. :) Thanks. -- edi (talk) 17:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Here's what I did about the Kind problem. I added two details for her benefit. I said she's a singer. Before it just said performer. Then I said she sang on Saturday Night Live in 1976. That shows people Ms. Kind was still relatively young when she became successful, and it was a long time ago. We don't have room to chart her career during the three decades since. I also made other edits. Look at Edit Summary. The Cocoanut Grove nightclub needed a better identification. The publicity announcement in Nevada said the Grove was in Hollywood, and that's wrong. It was near downtown Los Angeles, which many people know on account of its notoriety as the locale of Bobby Kennedy's assassination. Other edits were putting quote marks outside a period and using Wikipedia links for first references only. Change it back if you want. SophieTucker (talk) 05:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Early Years
I was reading parts of her early life and doesn't say how Streisand was introduced to music and at what age. All it says is that she won a music contest than start performing in clubs as a teen. This article doesn't talk about her upbringing unlike other biography articles such as Bobby Fischer. More than just a few lines would help boost the article. The Bobby Fischer article is good in the sense that it is not a summary, a poor one at that, of his childhood. Major additions and changes shouuld take place within that section. Mr. C.C. (talk) 07:34, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Bad Link - Better Link
The link to Streisand's lawsuit against Adelman doesn't work. Here is a link to the decision itself, which I think would be helpful to include:
http://www.californiacoastline.org/streisand/slapp-ruling.pdf
216.175.79.229 (talk) 23:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- The links work for me. Can you be more specific on what changes you are proposing? Bytebear (talk) 04:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Picture Removal
Could we possibly remove the picture of Barbra from 1962? A lot of people have shown interest that they think it's not the best picture to be displayed upon her WikiPedia page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.19.153.106 (talk) 09:43, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Brother Sheldon never mentioned.
Barbra's full brother Sheldon was never referred to in this article, though her half-sister Roslyn was! (????)
I edited the 2 intro paragraphs in the "Life and Career" section to include Shelly, and also rearranged the introductions of her parents to make it flow more properly.
Manburger 486 (talk) 12:45, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
As evidence of above, here is a link to the NY Times obituary of Diana Streisand Kind, which refers to her as "Beloved mother of Sheldon Streisand, Barbra Streisand, & Roslyn Kind: [1]
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