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Russia articles by quality and importance
Quality	Importance
Quality	Top	High	Mid	Low	NA	???	Total
FA	8	17	29	30		1	85
FL	2	4	6	2			14
FM					90		90
A	2	3	11	7			23
GA	28	38	117	226		2	411
B	218	294	508	723		209	1,952
C	350	606	1,190	2,733		690	5,569
Start	448	1,552	6,508	14,347	1	2,353	25,209
Stub	11	235	4,142	45,316	3	3,586	53,293
List	69	93	407	3,111	35	186	3,901
Category					21,125		21,125
Disambig					243		243
File					466		466
Portal					25		25
Project					140		140
Redirect			32	772	1,236		2,040
Template					4,263		4,263
NA				7	5		12
Other				1	132		133
Assessed	1,136	2,842	12,950	67,275	27,764	7,027	118,994
Unassessed			1	440		1,584	2,025
Total	1,136	2,842	12,951	67,715	27,764	8,611	121,019
WikiWork factors (?)		ω = 474,694			Ω = 5.49

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Russian Ground Forces

Russian Ground Forces has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Parrot of Doom (talk • contribs)

Assessments heads-up

Just a heads-up to folks who are doing assessments—when assessing/re-assessing articles, please spell out the banner name completely (i.e., use {{WikiProject Russia}}, not {{WPRUSSIA}} or any other shortcuts). The reason for that is the new {{ArticleAlertbotSubscription}} service available to WikiProjects—it watches the articles pertaining to the WikiProjects based on the banner which the articles are tagged with, but, unfortunately, it does not work with the redirects to the main banner. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:53, February 24, 2009 (UTC)

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Things we can do

Could some of the members of our numerous membership base please comment at Portal talk:Russia/Things you can do regarding how the "what you can do" banner situated at the top of this very page should be treated? Should we just worship it or is anyone planning on actually putting it to some use? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:01, March 30, 2009 (UTC)

Infobox practices and original research

There is a discussion going on at Template talk:Infobox Russian federal city regarding whether determining the elevation of a city via Google Earth is considered original research, and whether poorly-definable figures such as metro area/population should be included in the infoboxes at all. Additional input there would most certainly be appreciated.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:48, May 6, 2009 (UTC)

Gas field maps

Is it possible to construct a free image based on the Yamal gas field map on page 3 here? What is the best way to do this? Does someone want to make it? Offliner (talk) 14:16, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evidence of FSB involvement in the Russian apartment bombings (2nd nomination)

In case you are interested, please participate in this AfD discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evidence of FSB involvement in the Russian apartment bombings (2nd nomination) Offliner (talk) 17:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nadymsky District

Could someone please create Nadymsky District? This would be useful for the Gazprom article. Offliner (talk) 07:19, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Enjoy.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:19, August 31, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Offliner (talk) 22:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

August curse

Would someone support/object creation of August curse? I'm sure there are enough sources: [1]. It's a problematic topic for an article, since the "phenomenon" may be a coincidence and the article could run into WP:SYNTH problems if we are not careful, but as discussed in that Moscow News article, there may be reasons for the phenomenon. I think this should be discusses somewhere in WP, because we have articles about the events, and the curse is often discussed in the media coverage of those events. Offliner (talk) 22:31, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it's better (as usual) to just do it first and ask questions later. Offliner (talk) 23:43, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pageview stats

After a recent request, I added WikiProject Russia to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Russia/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 01:38, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The first theatre and the first actors

Hello! I am interested in theatre history, and I hope some one can answer my question. I wonder: which was the first theatre, with proffesional actors of both genders, in Russia? I am also interested in the first known actor and actress, or the most famous actor and actress of that theatre's early years. The net say the first theatre in Russia of this kind was in Moscow in 1702, and in St Petersburg in 1752. What were they called, and who were the first actor and actress there? I hope someone can answer my question. I would be gratefull if you could answer on my talk page. Regards--Aciram (talk) 09:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sakhalin vs. Sakhalin Oblast

Does anyone have an idea how we should divide content between Sakhalin and Sakhalin Oblast? I think almost everything from Sakhalin could be copied over to Sakhalin Oblast as well. For example, Sakhalin Oblast has no economy info–should the economy section from Sakhalin be moved over there? In general, what info goes into Sakhalin and what into Sakhalin Oblast? Offliner (talk) 00:01, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sakhalin is an island, Sakhalin Oblast is a federal subject located on the territory of that island (and also on the Kuril Islands). With that in mind, the article about the island should have detailed geographic description, information about flora/fauna/climate, as well as a brief history of settlement of the island and its discovery. Economy/infrastructure can be mentioned, but not to the extent they are now. The article about the oblast should first and foremost deal with the history of the oblast, its demographics, economy, and politics. Flora/fauna/geography/climate should also be mentioned, but should generally only briefly summarize the information from the article about the island (and include appropriate information from the articles about the Kurils, of course). If you are willing to clean up the existing mess, that'd be greatly appreciated! Let me know if there's anything I can help with. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:46, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Proposed move: Building of Commodity-stock exchange Saint Petersburg and a housing complex Financier

There is a proposal to move Building of Commodity-stock exchange Saint Petersburg and a housing complex Financier to either 'Saint Petersburg Commodity and Stock Exchange building' or 'Saint Petersburg Financier building'. Input from editors involved in this WikiProject would be most helpful. Cnilep (talk) 19:22, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Soviet war in Afghanistan page..

Hi! I protected Soviet war in Afghanistan, and I'm guessing the page has been ignored a bit. Can a couple of you look at it and ensure it's in tip-top shape? For instance, the talk page could really use cleaning up. Cheers, tedder (talk) 03:22, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Titles of company articles

This has been puzzling me for a long time. What should company articles be called? For example, should NPO ELSIB be at

or possible something else? Of course, I will always create all those as redirects, but one of them has to be the main title. Are there any guidelines about this? I've been a bit inconsistent when creating these articles: [2]. Offliner (talk) 19:05, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another example: where would you have put the article Kompozit? Kompozit, OAO Kompozit, JSC Kompozit, JSC "Kompozit" or something else? As an aside, could someone place this article in the correct "companies by industry" subcategory? I'm not sure if "manufacturing" is the most approriate one. Offliner (talk) 19:45, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think any of these would be an OK choice. The problem is that we don't really have any Russia-specific guidelines for company names in place. If you are interested in developing a set of such guidelines (based, perhaps, on the most predominant naming pattern you can pinpoint by looking at existing articles), I'd say go right ahead. I myself would be in favor of shorter titles (ELSIB, Kompozit...), unless they are not used in English sources at all, but that's just a gut feeling; I haven't done any research to back it up. Any other opinions?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:47, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

I also think that the shortest name (ELSIB, etc.) may often be the best one, since it's simple and the company type (JSC, etc.) may change later. Offliner (talk) 19:51, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Metro stuff

Just a heads up... Perm Metro and Riga Metro are up. (LAz17 (talk) 02:31, 21 September 2009 (UTC)).[reply]

Also, check out an idea... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Rapid_transit_in_the_former_Soviet_Union#separating_the_countries (LAz17 (talk) 06:10, 24 September 2009 (UTC)).[reply]

Chechens in Poland

Don't you think that we should expand Chechen_people#Geography_and_diaspora? Those sluggards are creating more and more problems, gaining national attention.

Translation required: Решение Исполкома калужского городского Совета депутатов трудящихся

I have been working on the late Pavel Popovich's article (4th Cosmonaut in space, who died yesterday), and I have one phrase which I came across which I want to check that I have the best translation for.

He received 2 honorary citizenships of Kaluga. On the Kaluga website Ими гордится Калуга ("They Bring Pride to Kaluga"), published by the Office of the Affairs of the Mayor of Kaluga), they have the following details:

август 1962 г. — Попович Павел Романович (2 раза), летчик-космонавт СССР, Герой Советского Союза. Решение Исполкома калужского городского Совета депутатов трудящихся № 597. Решение Исполкома калужского городского Совета депутатов трудящихся № 237 от 10 апреля 1964г.

The phrase I'm unsure about is "Решение Исполкома калужского городского Совета депутатов трудящихся № xxx", which Google Translate gives as "The decision of the Board Kaluga City Council of People's Deputies number xxx".

I have used "Decision xxx of the Kaluga City Council Board of People's Deputies" - is this an OK translation, or can anyone offer a better one?

Thanks -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:00, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Decision xxx of the executive committee of Kaluga City council of workers' deputies" is probably about right, unless there's an official translation.VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 17:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:43, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Abkhazia AfD

Yes, I know that Abkhazia is not Russia, it is an independent state, but it shares close ties to Russia, so I thought that some of you might be interested to see this AfD:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abkhazia–Venezuela relations

Keep in mind that there are many articles about relations with Kosovo. Examples: Estonia–Kosovo relations, Kosovo–Lithuania relations, etc.

--Tocino 21:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vladivostok Air GA assessment

Hi there, I'd like for someone to review Vladivostok Air for GA status, Im not sure how Im supposed to do it here. Thanks.--76.121.4.143 (talk) 00:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sofia Rotaru again

Dear all,

Certain users try to delete first info about Sofia Rotaru, then all related files to her art, some have already succeeded to delete music files of her famous songs, then one of them explicitely gave a false translation of a Russian respected press article regrding her revenues (refusing to beleive they are so high), now the same user started deleting all the images from articles related to the movies where Sofia Rotaru starred, especially during the Soviet period, movies all filmed in Russian language, such as Chervona Ruta, Soul ( for example, only this movie was viewed by 57 million viewers in former USSR), Where Has Love Gone?, Monologue of Love, and others. Those interested in reflecting this part of her art, please help to stop this or at least help to make such users discuss first their non-constructive edits. Thank you...--Rubikonchik (talk) 15:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Godfather in the USSR

Hi,

Does anyone know a reliable source about distribution of films in the USSR? In particular, where can find out when was The Godfather distributed in the USSR?

See a more detailed question at Talk:Contact (animated short film).

Thanks in advance. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 14:40, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sofia Rotaru sang the soundtrack Speak Softly Love in Ukrainian "Skazhi Shchio Lyubishi". She also did an English version, at the same time as Dalida in French, but Sofia Rotaru's English version was censured by the Soviet administration and cannot be found anywhere today...--Rubikonchik (talk) 08:55, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I read about the 70s' Sofia Rotaru version for the first time, when i searched for info about Speak Softly Love when i wrote the article Contact (animated short film). Growing up in Moscow in the 1980's, however, i only heard this melody in Contact and when my friends sang Давай покрасим холодильник в чёрный цвет. The article about Vladimir Tarasov quoted in Contact (animated short film) says the same thing.

Of course, if you have an article that proves the popularity of Rotaru's version, i'll be glad to read it. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 13:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here you go:

author: Михаил Садчиков, article title: «Романтика. Меланхолия. Ностальгия» publishing house: «Смена» place Санкт-Петербург date: 11-го декабря 1991. As you can see the official information is scarce, and the one available is only after perestroika, since it was all about censorship of the Soviet administration... Same thing applied to Deine Zärtlichkeit - the first collaboration of a Soviet superstar with a foreign ! Western ! recording firm in... 70's!!! --Rubikonchik (talk) 14:31, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I need a Wikilink to Кремлёвского дворца

Can anyone please help me? Russian friends have told me that in Russia there is a Wikilink to a page about the Kremlin Palace concert hall, and that the link is Кремлёвского дворца. How can I make the link work from this English Wiki? I need it for the Leonid Mikhailovich Kharitonov page. Please reply on my talk page? Thank you.--Storye book (talk) 13:41, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is probably the State Kremlin Palace. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 13:51, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

POV pushing on energy subjects

Can someone take a look at the edits of Gazpr (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)? He redirected Europe's energy security to European dependence on Russian energy, made a tendentious unexplained edit on Nord Stream [3] and tried to portray the German foreign minister as a minion of the Kremlin [4]. Offliner (talk) 21:27, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to him, even nuclear power just "a way to reduce Europe's alarming energy dependence on Gazprom and the Kremlin". [5] Sigh... Offliner (talk) 21:42, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cantonist

Why is Cantonist a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Ukraine and not of WikiProject Russia? Debresser (talk) 21:20, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Due to our languid membership base, the assessments are pretty much haphazard. If you see an oversight like this in future, feel free to tag it. You don't have to actually assess an article if you don't want to, but tagging it at least will put it in the list of other unassessed articles. I have assessed this article at C for now. Thanks for bringing this to this WikiProject's attention!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:11, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Sergei Kramarenko

Is there anyone who can look at Sergei Kramarenko and check it for WP:NPOV and factual accuracy? --Pontificalibus (talk) 14:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Photo could use better description and categories

Lovely photo, but not enough description (or categories) to make it useful. My guess is that someone on this project would know more precisely where this is and what significant buildings are in the photo. - Jmabel | Talk 19:54, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The tall building in the back seems to be the Moscow State University (but I could be wrong, I'm not a Muscovite). What the tall building in front is, I have no clue. Have you tried asking the uploader, by any chance?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:24, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

It was a Flickr image, so I wouldn't expect the uploader to have any particular insight. - Jmabel | Talk 01:08, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where is everybody

I was looking at this project and i don't understand why there are so many untagged articles and no one doing a damb about fixing them? Look in Category:Unknown-importance_Russia_articles there are over 5000 unassessed articles! What kind of encyclopaedia is this??? I wish i could help myself but i am not a kwikipedian. Pleas get to work asap! Down with britanica already!--anonimous