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Ack!
Does the unblock not remove autoblocks? Cripes... how long have I been an admin? Xavexgoem (talk) 21:57, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Nope, I don't think it does, although neither WP:NAS nor WP:BLOCK is very clear on that point. Frank | talk 22:09, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
And, yes, the escalation refers to future vios, since the block remains logged at arbcom. Should've been more clear ^^; Xavexgoem (talk) 21:59, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- I thought it was clear, but I wasn't getting "you can't edit" messages when I clicked around, so I can totally understand why someone in that situation might think otherwise. Frank | talk 22:00, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Community College Futures Assembly
Thank you...I put the winners in there because I saw "history" at other conferences...thanks for all the help! This will be very useful as I go on to the other four major conferences. I will actually go back and edit out the winners and keep it clean.
UTAPROF ZXQ (talk) 16:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- No problem. I would suggest keeping the organizations separate from any conferences they hold. I think the organization is more likely to be notable than any individual conferences. Frank | talk 16:41, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I give up with Wikipedia! One of you wants references so I add 58 references...the other strips them out and says it is ok to post it only to have another one of you delete it...this is ridiculous...if you cannot agree among yourself I am not going to waste my time anymore to help update the information on community college conferences, community colleges and vocational education.
The other people who I have been seemingly going in circles with are L’Aquatique, Nyttend, Queencake, Spartaz and some others. I started off with a very short wiki, but each administrator gave me different rules, procedures, things to add.
I have spent three days of my time just to post a short blurb about one of the major conferences in community colleges. There is no way in hell I am going to waste any more time trying to write some for the other conferences if I cant even get one written with a different set of rules, procedures, and things to do coming from everyone who looks at it…Good luck with your little site. This only further promotes the “cons” mentioned on the main wiki page.
Have a nice day.
UTAPROF ZXQ (talk) 20:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you're frustrated. This "little site" you are referring to is actually one of the largest and most-visited on the entire Internet. There are 6,881,761 articles on the site, and since most of them have talk pages, and there are files, policy pages, discussion areas, categories, and more...it's a pretty big place. There are many policies to be aware of, and it's not reasonable to expect to get them all at first.
- As to your particular frustration, I am familiar with at least two of those editors and they know what they're talking about. Further, putting over 50 references in a small article is probably far more effort than was requested.
- I offered to help; the offer stands. Just let me know if you want to continue building the article. It may be helpful to read WP:FIRST as a starting point. Frank | talk 20:33, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I still disagree. The wiki is no different from any other conference website...
Some background: This is one "child page" to a "parent page" on community colleges and community college conferences. It was my intention to write a wiki for each of the conferences on community colleges which did not exist already (a basic tenet of wikipedia). For whatever reason you, and all the other sysops/admins automatically "assume" that because someone posts a site it is automatically SPAM or advertising...there is nothing this wiki is selling nor is there any request for any funds, no request to attend...it is purely encyclopedic...Maybe you should ask for intentions
In response to all of the sysops/admins: I did read the WP:first...I did read the requirements for posting information on conferences...it is not an advertisement, it is not SPAM...it is written in a neutral voice...
Here are the wiki's I researched and modeled the wiki after: Here are similar wiki pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Community_College_Trustees http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Association_of_Community_Colleges
Here are other education-related conference wikis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Democratic_Education_Conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Democratic_Education_Conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interservice/Industry_Training,_Simulation_and_Education_Conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Computers_in_Education_Conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_India_Mumammadan_Educational_Conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_Conference_on_Higher_Education_2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_for_Jazz_Education_(IAJE)
Here are other non-education-related conference wikis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Congress http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEF_CON_(convention) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwicon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notacon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhreakNIC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShmooCon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summercon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ToorCon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hackers_Conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CodeCon
I only wanted to write a couple of quick paragraphs, just like the american association of community colleges wiki but all of you admins wanted me to keep adding more and more and more, until you chopped it back to basically where I started and then wanted me to do more once again...well spending four days to get a couple of paragraphs on one conference is not worth my time when it keeps getting flagged as advertising when I have nothing to do with the conference (that follows another Wiki rule on not publishing your own stuff) and effort...let alone trying to add in a couple of paragraphs here and there on all the other conferences...
I tried to use my expertise to improve the wiki sections on community colleges but none of you really seemed to understand what I am doing...which is follow what wikipedia was supposed to do in the first place...improve sections...in this case community colleges...
why the AACC or ACCT were allowed as wiki's without being "advertisements" or "spam" is beyond me...If you can show me how this wiki is an advertisement, what product I am trying to sell, or, for that matter how I have anything to do with that conference...I sure would be enlightened...
It is a shame since there are so many students who could have used a central repository on community college conferences, which, is encyclopedic content...Not to mention having them become users of Wikipedia and having them update the wikis...
So, like I said...if this wiki is not allowed (although I agree...just the first few paragraphs and a few cites is enough) then I am done with wikipedia...it is simply not worth my time to argue to get a bunch of conferences mentioned on wikipedia
Thank you for your comments and offer...it really is appreciated, but you have to understand my perspective too...four days of work to get a couple of paragraphs published about someone else's stuff is not worth my time and effort anymore...
I hope it can work out but if it doesn't thanks for your time and have a Happy Halloween.
UTAPROF ZXQ (talk) 19:42, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Hall
Oh ok, no problem--Yankees10 17:03, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- What do you want to do with Charlie Hall (football player) and Charlie Hall (American football)? Frank | talk 17:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'll re-direct them to Charlie Hall (disambiguation).--Yankees10 17:10, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Happy Halloween!
As Halloween is my favorite holiday, I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Halloween! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 18:25, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Jacob Panken
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≈ Chamal talk ¤ 19:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I really don't understand where you think the assertion of notability for musicians is in that article. Can you explain? Toddst1 (talk) 13:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- He is best known for his compositions... is an assertion of notability. I'm not saying I think he actually meets our notability guidelines, but as you know, that's not what CSD is for. Frank | talk 13:06, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, I think that he was used in The Thaw (film) which makes him notable enough. Thx. I think I need some coffee. Toddst1 (talk) 13:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
CSD on Dênis
Hi. A quick Google search actually revealed that this is a duplicate article from Dênis Oliveira de Souza. I put the wrong csd category on the db tag, but it still falls under CSD guidelines for being a duplicate article. Thanks! Panoptical (talk) 01:51, 5 November 2009 (UTC)