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Lonelypages Toolserver PHP Pages (etc)

These appear to be broken with the error:

Database error:

Table 'enwiki_p.page' doesn't exist

I was using http://toolserver.org/~jason/Lonelypages.php linked from Wikipedia:Orphan (enwiki). twilsonb (talk) 06:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

HTML bug in disambig tool

Hi, Jason. In your Disambiguation Pages with Links tool, your program is not converting ampersands in page titles into HTML & entities. For example, for the disambig page A&M, your report generates the following line (copied from the latest report):

<tr><td>   2673. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%26M">A&M</a></td> <td align="right">  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere&target=A%26M&namespace=0">68 links</a></td></tr>

The text inside the first <a> element should be A&M instead of A&M. Thanks! --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:01, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, R'n'B. I tweaked the page. Could you confirm that's what you were looking for? Thanks. BTW the Daily Disambig is addictive. I really like what you've done there. --JaGa^talk 22:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, it seems to work fine (except that now I have to go back and fix all the old entries in my database, which I should be able to do today). --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:23, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Source code

Hi, I was looking for source code of your scripts to count disambiguation pages and links, but it seems you dont upload them to SVN or they arent open sourced? Justass (talk) 22:08, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I haven't released the source. It's working, but it's messy and would be hard to understand. I want to fix the code up before releasing - so I won't have answer for my sloppy code. I'm afraid it'll be a while before I do so, though, since I'm pretty busy these days. --JaGa^talk 18:16, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Help making tool to count number of pages which "link here"

Hi JaGa! I recently asked for help at the Village Pump for getting the number of pages that link to a given page (Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Counting_the_number_of_articles_that_"link_here"). Folks there suggested that your Toolserver program as a good starting point. I've looked at your utility and it seems quite appropriate, do you think that you could help me adapt it for my needs? Specifically, I would like an online utility that would count the number of links to any specified page. I am a programmer and have some experience with the API, but your help would be extremely valuable. Thanks, -Sligocki (talk) 02:02, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, as I mentioned above, I haven't released my code yet. Do you have a Toolserver account? All my stuff is PHP that runs against the toolserver's replicated Wikipedia database; you have to get access to that for my stuff to be of any value. This link should get you started if that's the path you want to take. --JaGa^talk 18:22, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

No update today?

Your toolserver pages don't seem to have updated this morning. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 12:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I checked it out, the script was hung up. I killed it and restarted - hopefully we'll see results in about 15 minutes or so. --JaGa^talk 13:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, it seems to be hanging in the same step of the process. It'll take some investigation - probably won't be able to get to this until tonight. --JaGa^talk 13:45, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I've dug into it, and there's a query that used to take seconds now hanging indefinitely. I don't see anything wrong with the database or the other queries, so maybe it's something with the data itself. I'll have to look closer; dab updates may be offline for a bit while I investigate. --JaGa^talk 23:01, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I've been hammering away at this; the data looks fine, the code looks fine, but a complicated query that once took seconds now takes at least half a day. I'm going to re-write it as a stored procedure tonight and see if that helps. Sorry for the delay; I hope to have the reporting back online by tomorrow. --JaGa^talk 07:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

OK, I've converted that sucker to use cursors, and it's working again. --JaGa^talk 20:16, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Great, thanks! --R'n'B (call me Russ) 00:06, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Alfonso Domínguez

Thank you for the note about this article. I hadn't noticed the vandalism, and see that you reverted it. Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 21:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

No worries. My apologies for not noticing that it was vandalized before I placed the tag. --JaGa^talk 21:27, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you...thank you. :) Wikipedia Cleaner is AWESOME. Best tool I've ever found for disamming. It's made it much faster and easier. Early month is easier anyway because the disams tend to be more obvious. But thank you. :) --User:Woohookitty ^{Diamming fool!} 12:02, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm at 3,300 now. LOL Yes. I have no life. :) It helps that this month, the ones around 100 are pretty easy and straightforward. --User:Woohookitty ^{Diamming fool!} 12:10, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Heh, yeah, I'm making a run at #2 but you could probably stop working today and I still wouldn't catch you! I'm hoping we get the OK to expand the list for November - 250 isn't enough anymore :) --JaGa^talk 13:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

"rural southern Ohio"

Proctorvegas ain't that rural, at least compared to Meigs County. :) youngamerican (wtf?) 14:29, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

True that. Really I could probably leave out "rural" altogether, as it's more or less covered by "southern Ohio" - unless you include Cincy, I suppose. --JaGa^talk 15:09, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Monthly disambig list

So, I did a test run to make sure my new script is working correctly, and I got this: User:R'n'B/Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links/October 2009. It lists the top 500 pages from your tool as of October 14, but with the link counts as of October 15 (so there are a few stray cats and dogs near the bottom of the list). [Incidentally, in case you are interested, I am now keeping all the daily link counts in a user database on the Toolserver.] Is this how you think I should generate the monthly list, apart from the day of the month of course? Also, what would you do if (heaven forbid) the Toolserver was down on the last day of the month? I've assumed that you would use the top 500 from the last day for which data is available, but maybe that's not right? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:42, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

• Yeah, the script just grabs the top 500 from the table that's created when the daily disambig update runs, so it'd just get the latest available. I could run the dab update just before I make the monthly list, but then we'd get those oddballs I was talking about earlier.
• You could use the link counts from October 14 as well, just so the list wouldn't look weird. That way, instead of everyone asking "Why is this article with only 4 links in the list???", they'd just discover the occasional dab that had already been finished, which is already quite common.
• I didn't know you had a Toolserver account! Those aren't easy to come by. I'm amazed with the things you've been doing with the data - none of it ever occurred to me! Checking TDD is a highlight of lunch for me these days, and it's fantastic to be able to chart our progress. I look forward to 100-DPL and up Zero Day. --JaGa^talk 21:59, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Coin

FYI, I cannot see why Coin is on your list of dab pages with incoming links; it isn't a dab page now and doesn't seem to have been one recently. --Una Smith (talk) 03:10, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Oct 15 edit. --JaGa^talk 06:54, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Doh. --Una Smith (talk) 13:55, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Maltese nobility

Hi. You left this message on maltese nobility "This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. Please improve this article if you can. (October 2009)".' - How can I help? Mobile historian (talk) 20:46, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for the offer. I would expect the article Maltese nobility to be about the history of nobility, different titles, etc. (for instance, see French nobility or German nobility), and then the information about individuals to be split into other list articles (such as all the articles in Category:Lists of French nobility). As it stands, the article is much, much too long. And all the different tables makes the table of contents downright intimidating. I'd start with removing content into sub-articles and go from there. It would also be good to split some of the long text sections into sub-sections to improve readability (see Wikipedia:Layout and Wikipedia:Headings). Let me know if you have questions! --JaGa^talk 21:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

The article is not about Nobility in general but about the Maltese Nobility, what it is made of, the different titles, how they were created, amended and succeeded, the laws etc. A consensus was reached in 2006 to merge all the articles on Maltese Nobility because some people thought them too repetitive, so it is a tough call to shorten the article. We cannot compare Maltese nobility to French nobility or German nobility, or Italian Nobility because of the conclusions of the British-appointed Royal Commission. Unlike other European nobilities, all locally-created Maltese titles and successions, and foreign registrations are recorded and copies of those grants and relative documentation are easily available from the National Library of Malta. The references are noted down individually in the article and all this raw data is also backed up by reliable third-party publications.

Some of that published raw data was not picked up by the Commission. To complicate matters further, while the Royal Commission allowed some fiefs and unregistered foreign titles to form part of the Maltese Nobility on the basis of a direct recognition, it disallowed some recognised foreign titles and it even overlooked some locally-created titles! To make matters worse, a later committee made some retroactive changes and now the Republican government has not abolished the nobility but only "withdrawn recognition", meaning that the titles are still alive. There are different rules for fiefs and titles, and most of the titles have their own peculiar history and the grants were never streamlined into a uniform mode of succession. Added to this is that the foreign titles remained subject to the laws of the sending country. In terms of the Grand Masters' legislation, even some of the cadet male lines were considered to be forming part of the nobility. All these issues are highlighted objectively but to do so requires some explanation. Special attention was made to state facts and documented I will try split the long text sections into sub-sections, but will that not make the table of contents even longer? Mobile historian (talk) 11:36, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Long is OK for a TOC; having a TOC that stretches across the page is not OK. Table names should not be the titles of sections. And the tables should be put into proper wiki tables (Help:Table), if they must be kept. But you should think about cutting down the size of the article, if you aren't allowed to move content out; it's just a matter of time until someone decides to revert your work to a cleaner-looking version, such as this one. --JaGa^talk 17:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and there really should be a lead section before the TOC - check out the Layout link above. I would put the photo above the TOC as well. --JaGa^talk 17:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Lol, you're really hard on this  :)) !! I'm cutting it down to something much shorter, but I think I will still need to create a stub. How do I do that please? I'm also having problems formatting the tables Mobile historian (talk) 19:10, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi again. I really tried hard over the weekend, but as soon as I put it up, someone else reverted it. Can you please help? Thank you. Mobile historian (talk) 19:14, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

• Hey, you're OK - it was a mistaken revert by a bot - someone else, uh, reverted the reversion. Great work by the way! It looks a LOT better - I think your work will be safe. --JaGa^talk 20:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for all your help! Mobile historian (talk) 11:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Feeling kind of bad

I think next month I'm going to take it easy on the DAB challenge. It should be fun, not domination :) --User:Woohookitty ^{Disamming fool!} 04:21, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

• Bah, humbug! That's like asking Babe Ruth to hit less home runs to give the other fellas a chance. :) The project is moving forward at the rate of awesome, much of it due to your efforts. All the same, 9000+ is a LOT of edits, so I would understand if you need a break of sorts - I'm (probably? possibly? I have to move this month) going to cut back myself - looks like November will belong to J04n. But I'm 100% positive no one will resent if you continue to amaze. --JaGa^talk 09:51, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for all your help at Ohio Mayor's Courts! Much appreciated, Neutrality^talk 09:05, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

No problem! I did a couple of counties, and then realized I could do the counties with a spreadsheet, and then realized I could do the towns with a more complicated spreadsheet, and the OCD did the rest... --JaGa^talk 16:06, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

DAB Challenge list

So, I see that Babyface is on my list, but not on yours. Babyface (disambiguation) was on the October 31 list, but later the page was moved to the primary title. I guess it fell off your list when it changed from being a disambig to being a redirect; however, if the redirect is to another disambig page, it really should stay on. Just a thought. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I was piqued to see the #1 disambig fall off my list. I agree with what you're saying, but it would be pretty complicated to implement. Or at least, I don't know how I'd do it, so it seems complicated to me. :D --JaGa^talk 22:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC)