User talk:Jayy008

Welcome to my talk page, please post new messages at the bottom and I will reply when I can.

Not up to debate

"They are studio albums these particular albums by Mariah Carey" - I advise you to be aware of what a "Studio album" actually is.

"Removing information is considered vandalism" - I'm not vandalising, I'm making corrections in good faith.

"they are considered studio albums by all sources" - This is an encyclopedia, its not up to other people to make up what they think it should be, there is no where on the billboard or record label website offering these albums are "Studio propers".

"It's not about personal opinion it's about what reliable sources say including Billboard and the woman herself and the label. If they don't want to consider it a holiday album they don't have to. Please, stop reverting things, it's not up to you, it's up to all users, I've offered to put it up for discussion but in the mean time it should stay what it was before." - Billboard, Mariah and her label cannot decide to change the definition of a concept. I don't care if the want to call it a Car, its not a Car. Billboard, Mariah, her label or users do no get to make up a definition for something.

Mariah Carey Studio

I know you don't care about the correctness of albums, but this is not an opinion article, its an encyclopedia. There is a difference between Studio propers, OST and Holiday albums and should be categorized correctly. Please stop reverting changes made to correct these mistakes. These changes are based on the definitions of the terms, not whether you are anyone else considers them otherwise. Thank you.

Concerning Mariah Carey

A Holiday/Christmas album is not considered a Studio Proper. This is not a matter of opinion. Same applies to an OST (Original Soundtrack. I advise you to educate yourself in the matter. Thank You.

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This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you add an inappropriate image to an article, as you did to Paparazzi (Lady Gaga song), you will be blocked from editing. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

• The image is proposed for deletion. It hasn't been deleted yet. You can't block me for adding a disputed image as the other image is disputed aswell. Until it's resolved it doesn't matter which one is there.

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Never Leave You

Hello there, Jayy008. Thank you for your contributions to Never Leave You, however I would have to remind you not to include content poorly sourced by YouTube and Twitter which can not be put into use as they fail guidelines. I know that there is a music video for the song however, we need sources complying with WP:RS if we wish to include a proper description or further content regarding the release etc. Please wait until a reliable third party source is available, then you may include the music video section. • вяαdcяochat 22:35, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thank you for the info! Jayy008 (talk) 18:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

July 2009

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WP:BADCHARTS

Please do not include the Italian Singles Chart from acharts.us, or any other chart listed at WP:BADCHARTS, to any Wikipedia articles. That little Wikipedia emblem next to the chart name on acharts.us means "Do not include this chart in Wikipedia", and they even state "The Italian Charts are not official."—Kww(talk) 22:40, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Why do you keep removing the instructional comment? I'm at 3RR limit on that article trying to keep the acharts chart out. What harm does it do to keep a comment in there explaining the situation? You didn't understand the problem, and neither do many other editors.—Kww(talk) 23:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Could you please put it back for me? I can't do it without it being my fourth revert.—Kww(talk) 00:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry I don't remember what it is, paste it in here and I'll do it for you. Can you also read my comment on your page about the Mariah Carey discography and let me know your thoughts. Thank you. Jayy008 (talk) 00:38, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Easiest way to put it back is to hit this link and click the "undo" link on the upper right and then save it. As for the Mariah Carey discography, I prefer having everything together, but it isn't a strong preference. I wouldn't object to you breaking it out. You should start a conversation on the talk page. There are a lot of editors on the Mariah Carey articles with a lot of opinions. I just try to handle the vandalism.—Kww(talk) 00:45, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay I'll do it as soon as I've replied to this. Right, the Mariah Carey thing having it all together is fine but alot of those are not official releases. As for the vandalism that would be me because I'm very bad at editing, how do I open up a talk page about seperating the Singles to offical/promotional and featured. Jayy008 (talk) 00:47, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Never Leave You

Generally, to build a quality article, it is best not to use online retailers such as amazon. Specific retailers would be best. I found a more reliable source, by HMV here. The tracklisting has not been released but it is listed on the site. I assume it will be in the next few days as the single is released on August 3.. The cover that you posted is on the HMV source aswel, so you may put it back on the article. • вяαdcяochat 22:27, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I've already changed all of the article back but removed Amazon. So that is just your personal preference? There are no rules against Twitter, Amazon and YouTube? For example plastered across other pages are Twitter quotes, only on Superstars pages though. Is it allowed depending on how big a star you are? Jayy008 (talk) 22:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Read WP:BLP, WP:RS and WP:YOUTUBE. Also, in regards to Amazon, why use it when we have a much more reliable well established source such as HMV? • вяαdcяochat 06:39, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

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MICHELLE WILLAIMS =D

OMG you met her as well! hehe! When did you meet her? What's your fav songs and album by her? I met her a few weeks back then met her again like a week after that tehehe =D JonathanLGardner (talk) 21:23, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeahh after her show! She was so nice! I'm not sure really "Too Young For Love" maybe because it reminds me of a happy JoJo song I really like Lucky Girl though you? Yeah I went back the next day to get a picture. Jayy008 (talk) 13:12, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

August 2009

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Radar (song)

Top 40 Mainstream/Pop Songs is a component chart, as it is compiled based on airplay-only. It is not the same thing as the Pop 100, which also factored in sales. Per WP:CHARTS, this should not be included in charts tables, so please do not re-add it. - eo (talk) 13:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for the update! I thought as Pop songs has taken over from Pop 100 it would still be included, my bad! Jayy008 (talk) 16:40, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Czech chart

Yes, it's an airplay chart, but it's an official airplay chart. The Czech Republic has an official charts for album sales and one for radio airplay, but not for single sales. WP:GOODCHARTS is a good place to check if you have doubts.—Kww(talk) 21:29, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

No, it's fine I believe you but I will change it to "Airplay Chart" instead of "Singles Chart" Jayy008 (talk) 22:26, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I Am Sasha fierce

hey please do not add more covers as this is an infringment of copyright. when two or more album covers looks the same you are not allowed to upload more than one cover. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 16:43, 8 September 2009 (UTC))

Apologies, in your edit it appeared that you had added additional album covers. I must have not checked the article history thoroughly. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:14, 8 September 2009 (UTC))

September 2009

Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did to Just Dance, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Next time read WP:CHART and Music recording sales certifications and then edit certifications for songs. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:25, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

In the UK certifications ARE automatic or are just quicker in being certified than other places. Why do you keep reverting Japan's chart position for Poker Face? Jayy008 (talk) 10:32, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

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Obsessed (song)

Official Belgian Singles charts are here: Flandres and Wallonia. "Obsessed" never charted there - you can check it, there's an on-line archive. However it charted on the ULTRATIP chart, which is a pre-release chart (an indicator of which new singles should get a chance to feature on the singles chart) - explanation here. Links to this chart are here: Flandres and Wallonia. So writing in the Obsessed table "Belgain Singles Chart" is misleading. I suggest you remove the chart completly or let it be with ULTRATIP name. Max24 (talk) 09:37, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

If there's a problem add it to user discussion on the Obsessed page. I didn't add the chart. Jayy008 (talk) 13:08, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Bolding chart positions

Per WP:Record charts, chart positions should not be bolded.—Kww(talk) 17:43, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Mariah's album sales

I changed it because the original source that was up there is from her record label and it states that she has sold 200 million albums along with multiple other sources to support that claim as oppose to one source. PhoenixPrince (talk) 21:11, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The one I posted was from her record label too :S Jayy008 (talk) 12:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Adult Contemporary is not a component chart

Hi, sorry that I reverted your formatting of that one section with the rest of those edits, but I just wanted to correct your misunderstanding. Airplay-only charts are not the same thing as component charts. It has nothing to do with being airplay only. The Rock Tracks and Club Play charts, for example, reflect no sales yet are legitimate charts. The point of excluding component charts is there are some charts that are added together to determine a larger chart, thereby being components of the larger chart, and so essentially redundant. Adult Contemporary is a discrete radio format, and Billboard's Hot Adult Contemporary chart has always been a stand-alone chart, separate from any other, not figured into the Hot 100 chart. Component charts are like Hot 100 Airplay and Hot 100 Sales and Hot Digital Songs, which are all combined to determine the Hot 100 chart. Abrazame (talk) 21:39, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Pop Songs

According to component chart, the Hot 100 is compiled from three component charts: Hot 100 Airplay (I guess now called Radio Songs), Hot Digital Songs and Hot 100 Singles Sales. Pop Songs is a different chart, formerly called Top 40 Mainstream, which does measure airplay, but is not related to the defunct Pop 100 and its component Pop 100 Airplay. --Wolfer68 (talk) 00:00, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Good idea. You can go to Wikipedia talk:Record charts to bring it up for discussion. --Wolfer68 (talk) 16:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Files for deletion

I've never done it, but you I think you can just follow the instuctions on Wikipedia:Files for deletion. --Wolfer68 (talk) 00:18, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! Jayy008 (talk) 00:19, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Hot 100 Brazil

All charts from hot100brazil.com are bad. If there's something confusing about the way it's written on WP:BADCHARTS, let me know, and I'll fix it.—Kww(talk) 02:16, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

The Hot 100 Brazil is a hobby chart. It's compiled by one man, and he doesn't explain the rules he uses. No one has found any reliable sources, like newspapers or magazines, that refer to the charts he compiles. The official Brazilian chart for CDs is published by the APBD. I keep track of it at WP:Record charts/sourcing guide/Brazil (click on the links for the weeks, and it will take you to the official chart for each week). Take a look at the official chart, and you can see how strange the chart at Hot 100 Brazil is. It just doesn't line up very well at all.—Kww(talk) 02:23, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Regarding your edit S.O.S. (Let the Music Play)

Please join discussion at Wikipedia talk:Record charts#Clarification requested regarding WP:GOODCHARTS for Netherlands SINGLES. Thank You.
Iknow23 (talk) 23:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

due to your edit, it doesn't seem like it is resolved.

"The Mega Single Top 100 is a component of the Dutch Top 40, and should only be used if the single did not chart on the Dutch Top 40."
Thus the outstanding question at Wikipedia talk:Record charts#Clarification requested regarding WP:GOODCHARTS for Netherlands SINGLES of "Is 'The Mega Single Top 100' the same thing as 'GfK Dutch Single Top 100'"? is of prime importance. IF those two are the same, then per the comments the Dutch Top 40 should be used and not the Top 100.
Iknow23 (talk) 00:24, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, guess what? The question has actually been answered now as WP:GOODCHARTS states that GfK Dutch Single Top 100

(Mega Single) is a "component" of the Dutch Top 40. Please restore S.O.S. (Let the Music Play) accordingly. Thank You—Iknow23 (talk) 18:05, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh my! Did the WP:GOODCHARTS link change? Anyway, I see what you mean. This song is number 1 on the "Tip Parade" with the full list shown at TIP PARADE but THIS is NOT the "Top 40" even though "TOP 40" is shown a bit above the list. The "Tip Parade" also has only 30 positions.

The current WP:GOODCHARTS link for Dutch Top 40 shows BITS of BOTH charts. If one clicks on "Volledige lijst" at "TOP 40..." the full Top 40 list is revealed.

So Yeah. LOL, like Kww said, "Everything is always complicated..."—Iknow23 (talk) 19:07, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

At least I got clarity in the WP:GOODCHARTS listing, with two revisions having been made by others. :) —Iknow23 (talk) 19:12, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

That's fine :)—Iknow23 (talk) 19:23, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Page protection

Sorry, but I'm not an admin. You'd have to request it at WP:RFPP. I've started to talk to Nicepowerman, and hopefully we can get this resolved without protecting the page. I'd give it another day or two to see if we can get him to stop.—Kww(talk) 18:58, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I will add it if it does. Seriously doubt it will, but I'll keep watching the chart.—Kww(talk) 19:36, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Essentially no American music charts on the official Brazilian chart. In the last several months, it's been a I Am... Sasha Fierce, some old Michael Jackson albums, and two Beatles re-releases. That's it. I've been talking about the 200M figure privately with PhoenixFire.—Kww(talk) 19:40, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

No real consensus. I believe the 175M figure, myself.—Kww(talk) 19:42, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I only get the orange bar if you reply on my talk page. I have yours watchlisted, though, so if you reply to me here, I'll still see it, just a little more slowly.—Kww(talk) 22:00, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Watchlisting

If you want to watch a page, go to the page. In the list of tabs, the one on the far right says something like "watch" (I don't use the English interface, for me it says "volgen", but it's either "watch" or "watch this page" in English). Click it. That puts it on your watchlist.

To look at your watchlist, look at the top bar, and you'll see "my watchlist" (in between something about preferences and contributions, again, it all looks different on my computer). Click that, and it will show you a list of the last change made to every article on your watchlist.

I have about 7200 pages on my watchlist. Most people keep a hundred or so.—Kww(talk) 22:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I'll be away from my computer for a few hours. I'll look at it when I can.—Kww(talk) 22:49, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Korean platinum for Mariah Carey

I hadn't realised the editor objecting was SKS26. SKS26 is the editor I recognize as being best with the Korean certifications and sources (he can read Korean, which is something I can't do). If he's suspicious, I have to accept that there is something to be suspicious about. The Korean websites are being reworked, and in a few weeks we might be able to look it up better and get an answer. I think the best thing to do is wait a while, and ask SKS26 to look back into it in a month if nothing has turned up by then.—Kww(talk) 14:53, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

That's what I understand, even though their charting rules are a bit strange compared to the rest of the world. Things like a yearly chart that is issued every week, and covers the last 52 weeks.—Kww(talk) 18:39, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

I'll watch. Like I said, I doubt it: today's chart was just released, and the only non-Brazilian acts are Beyonce and the Beatles.—Kww(talk) 19:10, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

(Since this is what your question relates to, I put it in here.) Billboard Korea isn't quite set up yet, so there will be no charts there. As for Hanteo, the site's back up, but this doesn't give much information other than the fact that it only sold 529 copies in the past week (it didn't chart in the Top 5 for September, either). SKS (talk) 20:58, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

This is the International chart. There is no full/combined album chart for Korea (and I have no idea why). Well, actually, there are no real charts for Korea, so every time an album or song charts in Korea that isn't Korean, it's debatable. (When it is Korean, there are various news sources saying that it topped this chart or that chart, so it's usually mentioned in the article somewhere.)

Generally speaking, Asian countries like to have separate charts. I'm assuming that Japan has a combined chart, but I honestly have no idea.

Feel free to remove charts using that rationale (that it's a minor/international chart) but don't be surprised if people add it in. As you can see, there's no specific guideline against using International charts. So clearly, it's debatable. SKS (talk) 19:59, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

As far as I know, Taiwan doesn't. The other issue with Taiwan is that it's a relatively small market that would heavily favour domestic releases, so an "international" album chart position would be a bit misleading. But again, there's nothing explicitly wrong with that. SKS (talk) 20:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

International IFPI

All the certifying countries are listed at http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/international-award-levels.pdf . —Kww(talk) 21:46, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: Memoirs

Untitled

Hmm...I looked at the page, and the sales figures seem okay. Korea = 10,000, and US = 220,000..... If you're talking about "Obsessed", it's sourced by a primary source, so it's okay. Not great, but okay. It would be better to use a news source, especially since RIAA certifications aren't automatic, but it's not the source is a blog. SKS (talk) 00:09, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

is it worth adding this to the infobox? (see the side...)Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:27, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Mariah Carey

Hey Jay, do agree? I think its a good idea. Sure if you would like to, start the addition and then ill help out.Thanks for your help!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 01:00, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I will try and add more information on Precious. I do not think the conflict with Eminem should be in her main article, it mentions him in the song's article and I believe that is sufficient.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 01:32, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Billboard Brazil

I thought we had all agreed to wait. The chart isn't stable. The link you are adding is not to an archive, it's to a current chart. When they issue the next chart, every link you have added will be wrong. It's too soon to start.—Kww(talk) 01:53, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Japan

Billboard Japan and Oricon are both OK.—Kww(talk) 02:01, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Completely separate charts, made by different companies, with slightly different rules.—Kww(talk) 02:04, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Mariah Carey

Please explain why you changed the photo on this page, when there was a consensus on the talk page a few weeks ago?. Please change it back. And I have recieved your prior message, it's all good.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 02:01, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Katy Perry discography

Why did you remove the singles? Kiac (talk) 12:06, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I did not see the notes you added, my apologies. That's the way I originally had it anyway. Thanks. Kiac (talk) 14:50, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Will do :) Kiac (talk) 15:18, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

RFA spam

Thank you for participating in WP:Requests for adminship/Kww 3
Sometimes, being turned back at the door isn't such a bad thing

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INVITATION to Talk page.

INVITATION to Wikipedia talk:Record charts#Are Charts to be shown strictly in Alpha order per country?.
As you are one of the major contributores to the Record charts Talk page, I would welcome your input :) —Iknow23 (talk) 01:51, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Brazilian charts

If you must add the Brazilian chart (even though I have begged you not to, and I will again beg you to stop), please, please, please don't call it the "Brazil Hot 100". There are programs set to notify me of every time someone adds the "Brazil Hot 100" to an article, and I'm getting false alarms. Please call it something like "Billboard Brazil".—Kww(talk) 02:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

MC Photo

Im not sure what you mean, but if you read what the person wrote, you'd see he said he didn't want the one with the aweful hand gesture. While he might have made an error in the number, he clearly stated which he liked and disliked. By all means read it and get back to me.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 03:27, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Let me explain something to you, the picture you put has an aweful hand gesture the one I chose doesn't. He chose the one I like with just her face. He clearly hates the one with the hand gesture which is the one you chose.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 17:50, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

You have a very crooked way of reading things, but we'll just wait for some other peoples opinions to come in.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 22:31, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I Want to Know What Love Is

I dont know hwy you feel the need to vandalize the page. It has a perfectly relaible source claiming it's October 26th release in the UK. Dont remove it because you just know it hasnt yet. Today is the day it's supposed to be released, and you have no proof it hasn't yet.--209.155.49.3 (talk) 22:36, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Preview

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edits to 3 (song), it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, reduces edit conflicts, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you. ---Shadow (talk) 06:40, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I reverted the edit because some wrong information was added and I was going to redo the entire release table today. ---Shadow (talk) 18:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

You didn't even put Switzerland in the template, and it was not release in the US on that date either. ---Shadow (talk) 21:43, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Well the US release was strange. Amazon and Itunes said the 2nd but it wasn't released that date.

Touch My Body

I agree with you about removing the sales section, except for one of them. We all know that touch my body is platinum in the US and has sold 1.2 million downloads here, so please put US sales back.Thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 17:40, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Invitation to discussion.

Dear user, i would like to invite you to the following discussion. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:37, 21 November 2009 (UTC))

MC

Sure, I agree that it belongs on the page.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 20:26, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Ive added it back, can you help me add and develope the section?Thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 20:46, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Please join the discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mariah_Carey#Legacy Reidlos (talk) 12:59, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Shakira "She Wolf"

hello jay, i was removed that because the certification is for the single not for the album. please check again http://www.bpi.co.uk/certifiedawards/Search.aspx Ashishvats23 (talk), 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Attitude

You have a serious attitidude problem. You need to calm down and stop assumping ownership of articles. If you look on Chart Macros Redux you'll see that the Template:Singlechart has recently been developed and is the process of being rolled out. Also look at Love Sex Magic a page where a WP administrator Explicit has implemented the new template and undid consequent removals of it.

Now on several occassions you have spoken to me using capitals (indicating a raising of your voice) and also added exclaimation marks to the end of comments you have let to me. Whilst i appreciate your passion for editing you are starting to act as if you own certain articles. There is more than one correct interpretation for implementing wikipedia rules. WP:record charts does not have rules for how you list belgium for example it doesnt say about linking or not linking wallona/flanders. You need to chill out and start working with other editors because this is when the best results are achieved. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:43, 28 November 2009 (UTC))

Mariah Carey / Charts

WP:record charts explains quite thoroughly that only IFPI-registered charts can be used and only a maximum of 18 record charts. (we're currrently treating belgium flanders and wallonia as one charting region as are we doing to all billboard charts (e.g. r&b and hot 100 treated as one charting region). This is explained in the relevent section of record charts.(Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:49, 28 November 2009 (UTC))

Actually it does say in the second paragraph underneath the first table. "The number of charts should include no more than ten official national charts, and up to ten additional or secondary charts, but no more than eighteen charts total." And as for comments like "you dont seem to listen", i find that frankly insulting and patronising. I am a well established editor and have contributed to some major articles such as I Am... Sasha Fierce and I Look to You. Therefore i believe i have more than enough experience to comment on changes made to article and also the capacity to make bold edits accoridng to the rules. I accept that sometimes my edits seem radical but this is because i am constantly viewing the talk pages and record charts to track changes to wikipedia that are being brought in soon. I think you owe me an apology because you have mistaken me for a vandal/disruptive editor. I like yourself dedicate much of my time to highly trafficked articles and patrol them to prevent vandalism. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:06, 28 November 2009 (UTC))

Thank you apology accepted. Its ok, even i was confused by the new template. If you look at WP:record charts and visit Archive 6 on the talk page and under the heading "Chart Macro redux" you'll see that the user Kww (also a wp:admin) has been working very hard recently to develop the template which has been approved for use on wikipedia. A bot is now being built to automatically start changing exisiting articles. Btw Taiwain is not ifpi associated according to IFPI website so cannot be used. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:21, 28 November 2009 (UTC))

Do i prefer the chart template? i think yes its good because it makes it easier adding charts to a single because you can easily add the song and the reference is automatically found providing the information is enterred correctly. plus sometimes it can be difficult to work out how to name certain country's chart e.g. dutch charts, belian charts etc. it does have problems but i do think its a step forward. what do you think? (Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:29, 28 November 2009 (UTC))

Chart Numbers

When i first joined wikipedia i asked the question about when you draw the line with charts and i was told that there has to be a limit otherwise artists such as Shakira and Beyonce who have a truelly worldwide appeal would be able to chart in a potentially vast number of charts. Shakira's own website confirms that her new single topped 18 charts worlwide, so imagine how many others she has simply charted on? Thats why we only use IFPI associated charts as these are considered most verifiable and most reliable. Plus IFPI countries make up 90% of the market. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:33, 28 November 2009 (UTC))

Well the way it works, is simple. for billboard charts you use the artist's id which is unique to that artist. Then it automatically links to billboard's chart history page for the said artist so you can varify where they've charted. In the majority of other countries you use the artist's name and the song name. It then automatically does the search for you so when you click on the source it comes up with chart result for that particular song. Detailed info on how to use the template can be found at Template:Singlechart - it does vary by country. No doubt it will develop over time and probably change too. It aims to eliminate problems with none-archivable charts by only using archiable charts for its sources. as more people take up the template it should improve verfiability. it is created by using the following parameters:

• majority = {single chart | name of country | position | artist name | song name}
• billboard = {single chart | billboardname of billboard chart | position | artist name | artist id}
• czech = {single chart | name of country | position | year | week}

(Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC))

Chart macros

There's a few reasons. First is that it automatically provides a link to the proper source, in the proper format. It is actually much simpler to provide than a chart position with a correctly formatted {{cite web}}.

The second reason is that it allows us to update sources in one place. When Billboard changed its site around, it required edits to thousands of articles. We still aren't done. This way, simple changes to a site can be done by only editing the template. If there's a more complicated change, having a standard format for referencing the site allows us to write bots and scripts to take care of the problems automatically.

Third is that we are working on a bot to keep things updated automatically. If someone vandalises the chart position, it will be corrected automatically. Chart vandalism is a serious and chronic problem. Without a standard format, the bot is impossible to write.

Fourth is that it eliminates the fake chart names. There aren't such things as a "Dutch Singles Chart", a "Belgian Singles Chart", a "French Singles Chart". There usually aren't even articles with those names: 99% of the time, the link is to the country, not to a description of the chart. It also makes it clear which chart is being referenced when there's a choice: there is a big difference between the Dutch Top 40 and the Megachart 100, and the link should take you to the right place.

What is your objection to the macro?—Kww(talk) 23:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Because there is no unique "Australia Singles Chart". There's the main chart, the urban chart, the download chart, the airplay chart. Same for the UK. There are multiple Canadian charts, multiple Brazilian album charts, etc. Probably half the countries that have charts have multiple charts.—Kww(talk) 23:47, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I've got no problem making the links more specific. If someone writes a specific article about the main single chart provided by the Official Charts Company, I'll update the template to point to it, and that will update all articles automatically.—Kww(talk) 23:58, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to start the album version next week. I'll adjust the UK link.—Kww(talk) 00:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll sort out Denmark and make changes.—Kww(talk) 00:06, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

RE: Taiwan

but IFPI's own official website [1] does not list Taiwan as an affiliated organisation or even as a registered regional office. If IFPI's own official website refuses to recognise Taiwan it should be omitted especially considering there are already too many charts and also because i dont think WP:record charts approves it's use. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:22, 29 November 2009 (UTC))

The website you've shown is IFPI Taiwan or as its known there Recording Industry foundation of Taiwan (RIT). But according to IFPI.org (the official international website) IFPI does not list Taiwan as an official IFPI organisation. It is self-styled that is why it is not listed at [2] (click on the chart providers by territory link) (Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:45, 29 November 2009 (UTC))

The link you've found is a mirror (dummy website) from Taiwan's own record association RIT which says it is the Tawain equivalent of IFPI but it is not actually officially part of IFPI if that makes sense? Its charts and certificates are not verified by IFPI. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 12:26, 30 November 2009 (UTC))

Its the actual chart which is not IFPI associated. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 15:42, 3 December 2009 (UTC))

Denmark

Tracklisten is just the name of the show that presents the chart. Copyright on the chart is shared by IFPI and Nielsen.—Kww(talk) 01:34, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Chart Changes

Sorry i've not been online to reply.

I think its fair to say that we have reached a consensus. We should go ahead and implement the changes (proposals 1-4). 5 probably needs further discussion before finalising. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 02:29, 5 December 2009 (UTC))

chart macros

UK singles chart and Irish singles chart direct you to those articles now (it's via a redirect). It's hard to maintain a consistent format when some charts are named and others only have an article about the provider, so I do it via a redirect. I hope you don't feel like I've been ignoring your input, it's just that I haven't been editing as heavily recently. I got the note feature working today, and I'm still working on getting Beyoncé to work properly.—Kww(talk) 01:12, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

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RE: I Look to You Tour/HATE U Vid

Hi,

Yes i will be more than happy to help out with I Look to You tour. I will add the page to my watch list and make it part of my regular patrol of articles.

And yes i saw the HateU video and was thoroughly disgusted. I think it is one of the worst videos i have ever seen. i wanna know what love is video was terrible but that was expected. The HateU video had such high expectations especially since her album is tanking. The fact that she chose to release such a lame video (has little to do with the song) which is also Brett Ratner's most ammateur video for the third single from a failing album is ridiculous. Things aren't right at DefJam/Island. Look at what they've done to rihanna's Rated R. It took MC's label 2 singles to realise they'd released the wrong song and when the pick the album's best cut and give it a sh*t video its like what's the point? LOl im not really a mariah fan but HateU is a good song and deserved better.(Lil-unique1 (talk) 02:03, 10 December 2009 (UTC))

Certifications

For what article page are you talking about?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 17:25, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

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Re: I Look to You song cover.

can we not use the double-aside cover and include the remix cover as a second single cover using the misc function in the infobox? Lil-unique1 (talk) 00:33, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

December 2009

Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Parachute (song), without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. WossOccurring (talk) 00:52, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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Rated R (Rihanna album) genre consensus

Do u care 2 contribute to the genre issue at the article's talk page? Dan56 (talk) 06:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Soundtracks and Christmas albums

Generally, soundtracks and Christmas albums aren't considered studio albums. They should be in the discography under a heading like "Other". If an artist did a bunch of Christmas albums or a bunch of soundtracks, it would be reasonable to consider adding specific "Soundtrack" and "Christmas album" sections. I can't think of an example of that, but I can't think of a reason for someone to object.—Kww(talk) 00:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Add them back under a heading of "Other". If they still get removed, you have a strong case to call the editing disruptive.—Kww(talk) 00:59, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

I am the editor responsible for these edits. I have removed them from the Studio category and ADDED them to the Other category. I am not vandalizing Mariah's page. I am simply correcting this mistake in good faith. --Sosa (talk) 01:03, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Frenchdigital

They're all case sensitive: it's "Frenchdigital".—Kww(talk) 19:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

ARC Weekly

Please stop removing the ARC Weekly Top 40 chart from the One Time article. It is not a component chart. The ARC is an official United States chart, and has no relation to the main U.S. chart, the Billboard Hot 100 and its component charts, the Billboard Hot 100 Airplay and Billboard Hot 100 Singles Sales. Candyo32 (talk) 21:25, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Also, don't remove Pop Songs chart. A consensus has been made to include the chart for pop-genre songs. Candyo32 (talk) 21:29, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

User: Ryan3896490

heya, yes i have experience the annoying-ness of the above user! he is a complete pain in the arse i agree :) but no i'm not an admin so cannot block him myself. but taking a quick look at his edit history alot of his edits do require undoing afterwards! i think its mainly cos he doesnt understand about some of the basic principles and formatting and stuff Mister sparky (talk) 11:25, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

mention him to User:Ericorbit, he's an admin and a really nice guy :) Mister sparky (talk) 17:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Hello

I have actually removed the Billboard Brasil Hot 100 (the source stated Hot 100 Airplay) and its component chart the Billboard Brasil Pop 100 becaused both are sourced from Billboard Brasil. According to previous discussions the ABPD is the only approved provider. Billboard Brasil has dubious methidology which is inconsistant. It is often different to the official IFPI-approved ABPD chart and therefore i dont think it is sensible to include the chart. Therefore there is no need for the nav. template. Lil-unique1 (talk) 03:43, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

As far as im aware the issue was last discussed in July 2009 when the chart was in its very earliest ages. Since then there has yet to be a follow up about whether it is appropriate for use on Wikipedia. I would have thought that with a chart that has proven so problematic IF there was a credible chart it would have been added to Goodcharts. Has anyone checked the methidology of Billboard Brasil? Lil-unique1 (talk) 02:28, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Discography

I noticed you had a discussion with another use about limiting the number of certificates available in a discography. The only guidelines im aware of (by word of mouth) is a maximum of 10, and if more than 5 are include then the small tags should be used. Lil-unique1 (talk) 04:01, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Please see my comment of today at User talk:Iknow23#Discography.—Iknow23 (talk) 01:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

User:Ryan3896490

Yep, what you did there is just fine. He's had quite enough warnings as far as I can see. If he continues to ignore people, grab an admin to take a look and/or report him here: Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism - just plug in his user name with a short description of the vandalism and someone will be along shortly to check it out and block if needed. - eo (talk) 18:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Not a problem. He has had fair warning from plenty of people. He needs sanctions or some such intervention I suspect. Drop a more long term notice at the noticeboard if you feel that such action is required - and to AIV if there is disruptive editing which requires a short term fix. SGGH ^ping! 01:22, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I Look to You Sales

The source from Rap-Up shows a photo in which Whitney recieves a platinum plaque where it is listed the countries in which the album has gone platinum. then using the List of music recording sales certifications#Albums it tells you what each certificate equates to in sales. there is nothing wrong with this way of sourcing sales. Especially not since the certificates are sourced. Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps but don't forget the BET honours was filmed several weeks before it is due to air therefore the information could be pre-emptive. Also certificates are not published daily/weekly. They are published in sporadic timings. For example BPI in the UK certified some in November 2009 and some more in January 2010 (in 2008 they Certified in Jan 2008 and then in April 2008). I have scrutinised the photo very closely and it does say I Look to You has been certified platinum in: *country flags*. Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:38, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

RE: Mariah Carey Singles

• Yes i actually think its a good idea, the likes of many other big artists of their time e.g. Michael Jackson have this and i think it will be good for information layout. Especially since Mariah Carey will be released even more albums and singles it will prevent the page looking cluttered. Good for size (therefore nav. too) Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:48, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

• As far as im aware you just create the page like you would create any other and then move the information across. Obviously then the Mariah Carey Discography page becomes the disambigation page with links to the singles and albums discography. Unfortunately I'm about to leave wikipedia for tonight im really wacked. Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:54, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Ryan3896490 ‎

Hello, Jayy008. I have reported Ryan3896490 to an admin, User:J.delanoy. Ryan might soon be blocked right now. Blocky cuzco (talk) 02:01, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

He doesn't appear to be taking any advance or making any effort to talk. He didn't continue past final warning but he clearly hasn't taken any notice. I have given him the same block that he had in December. SGGH ^ping! 22:54, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh incidentally. Could you update or link me to any current ANI notice on him? Also, please take care to sign your vandalism warnings, so it's easier to see when he got his FW :) SGGH ^ping! 22:55, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

WP:AN/I. SGGH ^ping! 23:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

No no, all I meant was that if you had recently added him there in an attempt to solve the problem, you might want to update it with an account of these recent actions, but if you haven't taken anything there then no need. SGGH ^ping! 17:12, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Only admins can block. Take a look at WP:ADMIN and WP:BLOCK which I think are pages that relate. Regards, SGGH ^ping! 19:56, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Technical difficulties

Usually you would just use the "move" tab (I think it's called that in the English interface, either "move" or "rename", for me it's "hernoemen"). Unfortunately, there is already "Mariah Carey albums discography" with a history, and that means that only an admin can do the move. You need to make the request at WP:RM. I'd use the "uncontroversial moves" section.—Kww(talk) 17:01, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Never cut-and-paste an article. Never. It causes GFDL problems. I've requested admin assistance to get things straightened out. Please leave things where they are until the deletes have happened so that I can restore things from history.—Kww(talk) 18:17, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Let me look again. Please don't touch until I say so.—Kww(talk) 18:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

There's a history there, too, so it wouldn't allow the move to complete. I have to leave for a bit, so nothing will happen for a few hours. All of your work is saved in article history, so it isn't lost. I have to figure out a strategy for unwinding the previous merge/split activity that preserves the history, and it's not going to be easy. Are you sure that this is necessary?—Kww(talk) 18:28, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

The "speedy" delete hasn't been done yet, so that's a problem. I'm going to wind up taking this to WP:RM myself. It's just too tangled, with too many people splitting, merging, renaming, and otherwise creating duplicate articles.—Kww(talk) 20:09, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Mariah Carey discography#Splitting the article

Re: Please check...

Sorry for the late reply. Well, my edits didn't take that little time either. Besides, I don't agree with these chart macros aesthetically, and they don't seem to be mandatory since I haven't seen them being used that often. Funk Junkie (talk) 00:51, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

I didn't just go to any article which contained chart macros and reverted them, I did it with pages I had previously worked in. Though they're practical, I much prefer the "Singles Chart" format, which follows a pattern and therefore is more understandable. Besides, why does each chart have to have its own source? Isn't it easier to use one Ultratop source for the charts it covers? Funk Junkie (talk) 17:04, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Mariah Carey

hey, yea i can help you out with the sourcing if you like Mister sparky (talk) 12:59, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

that was a simple error when copying over the ref from elsewhere, not vandalism... Mister sparky (talk) 23:03, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Irish charts

Nope. Year and date to a particular chart. There is no licensed archive where you can index by song. Usually, I use acharts to find the year and date that it peaked on the Irish chart using the "graph chart" function that acharts provides.—Kww(talk) 20:12, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

German chart

This is usually the problem.—Kww(talk) 20:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

"I Want to Know What Love Is' was released under a strange title variation.—Kww(talk) 21:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/One Shot (JLS song)

One Shot was deleted via an AfD discussion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/One Shot (JLS song)). If you wish to contest the deletion, please do so at WP:DRV. Until then, please do not create any links to the article. Thanks. Jayjg ^(talk) 22:22, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

If you think the reasons for deleting it a month ago are no longer valid, then please take it to WP:DRV for review. Continually re-creating it is not the way to go. Jayjg ^(talk) 00:23, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Mariah Carey

Request made.—Kww(talk) 15:47, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. I would suggest WP:RFPP for those. I was trying to dig through the pages and it seems that the parent and sub-articles have been protected and unprotected at various times. If you use RFPP then it also checks with more than one admin that protection is necessary. I've categorised the disambiguation page for you, though. SGGH ^ping! 13:00, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Glitter (soundtrack)

Hi, Jayy. Perhaps you saw what I wrote over at Wikipedia talk:Record charts#Chart Stats, Zobbel, everyHit and αCharts.us?
What do you think of:
Glitter (soundtrack) at Billboard? It is listed as charting in Soundtrack, R&B/Hip-Hop and the Top 200. Actually couldn't all THREE be displayed in the Chart table in the Glitter article as R&B/Hip-Hop is a genre chart and I think that Soundtrack chart should also be eligible.—Iknow23 (talk) 16:37, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Brasil

Please could you give your views on the following: Billboard Brasil / An Official Brasilian Singles Chart?

Thanks. Lil-unique1 (talk) 18:51, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

RE: Angels Advocate Tour

Sorry i didn't reply the other day

Yeah sorry my username's not exactly the most informative or actually most exicitng one is it? My name's Hash if that makes things easier?

Yeah i agree any changes to the set list should be mentioned for which i think Mariah Daily Journal is acceptable source but not for anything else. However we need to be careful because this could rapidly become a problem seen that Carey seems to modify every tour date.

As far as im aware BET the Tv chanel on UK SKY TV and AMERICAN DIGITIAL TV is the only way to watch the ceremony.

Hope that helps? Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:46, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

If you mean to see whitney live? no. I did defend her infamous X Factor performance to all my friends and family who thought it was pathetic. Lol i also defended the the album which not that many people in the UK actually talk bout/regularly listen to. But considering the state of her voice, her x factor performance and reviews from those in russian who've already been to one date of the tour i refused to pay £55 to see her mime and struggle to breathe. I think its a little tragic. wbu? what do you think? Lil-unique1 (talk) 20:26, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Cool. Where will you be going to see her? You'll have to tell me how it goes... (i want a review lol). Im going to see Alicia Keys at the O2 and then the same week Leona Lewis live in May. So i've got my hopes high for both of them. I've heard Robin Thicke and Melanie Fiona are supporting Keys but i dont know who's supporting Leona. Lil-unique1 (talk) 00:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Random stuff

try WP:templates Lil-unique1 (talk) 16:47, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

OMG did u see this? Latest Music News Lil-unique1 (talk) 17:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Croatia

Why did you remove croatian albums chart ? it is listed on WP:GOODCHARTS as good chart. in Croatia there are 3 albums charts. 1 that lists foreign albums, 1 that lists croatian albums and combined list. this is this weeks foreign chart. the element of freedom is at #4.--SveroH (talk) 20:03, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

ok, then i'll fix the link --SveroH (talk) 20:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Billboard Brasil

Well, I'll not be able to buy all copies but I think it's way easier for me to get the #1. But are you asking me to update monthly a kind of archive here in Wikipedia with the #1 songs or what? If so, I think I can do it. Decodet (talk) 23:59, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I think I understood. Yes, I can do it, I've already worked with this kind of references before. Which specific song do you want me to do it? Decodet (talk) 00:25, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

• I Want to Know What Love Is was number one in the main chart

"Brazil Hot 100 Airplay". Billboard Brasil (in Portuguese) (3). Brazil: bpp: 79. 2009. ISSN 977-217605400-2. {{cite journal}}: Check |issn= value (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |trans_title= (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

• Halo was number one in the main chart

"Brazil Hot 100 Airplay". Billboard Brasil (in Portuguese) (2). Brazil: bpp: 79. 2009. ISSN 977-217605400-2. {{cite journal}}: Check |issn= value (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |trans_title= (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

Just put the code between ref tags. About the Pop Chart, I can do the reference for you but I'm pretty sure it's a component chart.Do you still want it? Decodet (talk) 01:17, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

The Pop Chart is an airplay chart too but including only pop songs. That's why I bet it's a component chart. Decodet (talk) 15:06, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Haha no problem. If you need more help, feel free to ask me again! Decodet (talk) 16:13, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

RE: I Want to Know What Love Is "Succession box"

No, I would not be able to tell you that since the Brazilian chart is monthy. It's dated simply "December of 2009". Decodet (talk) 21:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

irishcharts.ie

The whole site is down. I'll watch it for a couple of days, and change things if it doesn't come back online.—Kww(talk) 15:58, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

RE: One Shot (JLS song)

They restored it. You worked really hard on it. If you want, I'll help a bit. Great work!

Signed by: Ninjinian (My talk!) 19:42, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk: Mariah Carey albums discography

Hey Jay, since you usually take place in Mariah Carey discussions, maybe you would like to voice your opinion here--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 03:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Mariah Carey albums discography

Hey jay, I have expanded the intro to the above mentioned page. There is allot of new info, so if you can please help me out to correct it grammatically and it's wording. It may need the removal or addition of some information, and and may need to be cleaned a bit. thanks for the help.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 03:16, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

That's good, I believe with some references and the removal of some unnecessary information the intro will look very nice and be informative. I'll do the singles discography next, just without the mention of her albums, just mainly focusing on the success of her singles.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 06:10, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry, I don't intend to add more than a paragraph. The singles discography has no need to mirror the albums page. It will speak mainly about the continued success of her singles.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 18:48, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: Up Out My Face

Sorry i've not been on for a while so didn't realise it was MDJ that had revealed the covers. We're gonna have issues though because people keep using Honeybfly to source things about the song's conception but this source was also initially used to try and source the tracklisting for the remix album and it turned out untrue... because it initally said R Kelly was going to feature on "Inseperable". We're gonna have to watch out for that.

Im going to opening night of Leona's tour (May 28th at Sheffield arena). wbu? Lil-unique1 (talk) 17:17, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

OMG i would have loved to have seen her at the o2 but i couldnt drag anyone to london with me to see her. Managed to get a friend from back home to come to sheffield with me to see her though. im seeing alicia keys though at the o2. will defo let you know. Lil-unique1 (talk) 17:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

its funny you say that. i only found out Alicia was touring the day tickets went on sale and they sold out in bout 1hr. Then the following day it was announced that they had added an extra day and the tickets would go on sale in two days. so i waited and used my o2 priority to get premium access to tickets at 9.30am and was surprised to find the sale 50% sold out :O. will be good im sure. what part of the country are you from btw? Lil-unique1 (talk) 17:41, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Wow that's quite a move. well you've prob guessed from the last comment i from Sheffield originally but im living in Nottingham at the moment cause of university. both leona and alicia should be good in their own ways... Lil-unique1 (talk) 18:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Up Out My Face radio releases

but that source doesnt say anything about feb 16 and only lists Up out my face.....so im gonna remove.....you cant just make up dates..

how dare you say im vandalizing...you yourself said im editing in good faith....your the one who doesnt listen not me.........why u wanna report me...im not doing anything wrong...ur the one who should be reported...

look at the Future releases, scroll down to feb 16......up out my face and angels cry are NOT listed there......if what ur saying is true then they would have been listed under feb 16....but they not.....so get over it....your not right......Allyoueverwanted (talk) 17:02, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

you cant just guess that island records is refering to thatwhen it literally doesnt say it.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allyoueverwanted (talk • contribs) 17:10, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

hahah,lol...ur such an amatuer....go read wikipedia guidlines...im pretty sure "guessing" is not allowed........this is called vandalizm......you have to have a releiable source that actually says it........ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allyoueverwanted (talk • contribs) 17:16, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

This source for example is very reliable and look it doesnt list up out my face nor angels cry on feb 16........and if what ur saying was true...they would have difinatley been there......but theyre not......so stop sayng im vandlazing...cauae im not.....u are...Allyoueverwanted (talk) 17:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

you cant just guess.... You need to read up on WP:OR. You can only say such things if you have a reliable third-party source to quote.....and im pretty sure its the Digital Download release date...what makes u so sure its not..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allyoueverwanted (talk • contribs) 17:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

look at the island records website, every single song they have, theyre referening to the digital download release date.....so why would it be difrent for angels cry and up out my face.......and theyres no mention at all about readio release dates for the other songs..so why would it be diffrent for those two songs..