Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 February 27

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February 27

Template:Puffery

Template:Puffery (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The difference between this and {{peacock}} is difficult to qualify, it links to an essay, and the phrase "wikipuffery" seems to have been invented for this purpose. Recommend redirecting to {{peacock}} and deleting the category once it's been depopulated. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 12:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The term "puffery" goes back well over 200 years now, and is scarcely a neologism. The use of "peacock" is to discourage unverifiable stuff but says nothing about how the stuff is worded if it is "verifiable", "puffery" may well be "verifiable" but the wording is specifically promotional. Sources which use promotional wording do not incur "peacock" at all! The purpose here is to reduce the promotional language in articles. And there is no shortage of "reliable sources" which can be quoted in a "puffing" manner (see history of movie ads <g>). Collect (talk) 13:15, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Puffery is very much a real word. {{puffery}} serves a different purpose than {{peacock}}. The WP:PUFF essay has become very popular, and is frequently referred to in AFD discussions. See also Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Wikipuffery, closed as speedy/snow keep. THF (talk) 13:40, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Biased Arabic Wikipedia

Template:Biased Arabic Wikipedia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This contains rather a pointed personal attack, and in any case should probably be in userspace. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This *is* for use in userspace. Don't delete, just move it. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 09:45, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Even if it were in userspace I'd still have taken in the XfD for the tone problem. There are two issues here. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:19, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Move to userspace, don't delete. It's opinionated, but does not attack specific individuals, and people are allowed to express opinions in userboxes. AnonMoos (talk) 10:36, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Move to userspace, don't delete. As mentioned above, people are allowed to express their opinions as long as there's no personal attacks, as is the case here. --Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ ^[talk] 12:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Move as I tend to see more latitude in userspace than some others do. I would suggest that the author consider using different terminology if he wishes to avoid problems with it. Collect (talk) 13:18, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move don't delete. I think you guys should go and see some arabic articles and judge for yourself. Arthur_B (talk) 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Template:Infobox CA Co

Template:Infobox CA Co (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not used. Rs chen 7754 07:59, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Most subject articles that would use this template have been consolidated into lists, making this infobox unnecessary. It seems to be redundant (and inferior) to {{infobox road}}, anyway. --LJ (talk) 10:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — no longer needed. Imzadi1979 (talk) 10:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:California County Route SD

Template:California County Route SD (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All targets redirect to California County Routes in zone S. Rs chen 7754 07:52, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – No longer needed due to items being consolidated into a list. --LJ (talk) 10:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — no longer needed. Imzadi1979 (talk) 10:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:California County Route ORA

Template:California County Route ORA (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All targets redirect to California County Routes in zone S or California County Routes in zone N. Rs chen 7754 07:52, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – No longer needed due to items being consolidated into lists. --LJ (talk) 10:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — no longer needed. Imzadi1979 (talk) 10:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:California County Route RIV

Template:California County Route RIV (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All targets redirect to California County Routes in zone S or California County Routes in zone R. Rs chen 7754 07:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – No longer needed due to items being consolidated into lists. --LJ (talk) 10:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — no longer needed. Imzadi1979 (talk) 10:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:California County Route SB

Template:California County Route SB (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All targets redirect to California County Routes in zone S. Rs chen 7754 07:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Single item nav template. No longer needed due to item being consolidated into a list. --LJ (talk) 10:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — no longer needed. Imzadi1979 (talk) 10:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:California County Route IMP

Template:California County Route IMP (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All targets redirect to California County Routes in zone S. Rs chen 7754 07:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – No longer needed due to items being consolidated into a list. --LJ (talk) 10:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — no longer needed. Imzadi1979 (talk) 10:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Translation/Ref

This template seems odd: can I add non-English references in English Wikipedia without translate the title into English? Many people accuse me for using non-English references even if I tranlated the title into English. It's definitely unfair that they can use this template to use completely non-English references that I can't accuse but they accuse me even if I translate the title. Plus, this template is contradict to WP:SELF. --虞海 (Yú Hǎi) (talk) 07:21, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox PoptropicaStars

Template:Infobox PoptropicaStars (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not useful in any form or fashion, just plain text that could be typed. Ks0stm ^(T•C•G) 05:23, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Samson Samsonov

Template:Samson Samsonov (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only navigates three films. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:44, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep because a set of three films is a good start, but more of his other works without articles seem like they should be able to have articles, judging from the search engine results I went through. Erik (talk) 17:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Juan Carlos Fresnadillo

Template:Juan Carlos Fresnadillo (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only navigates three films. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:43, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep because three films is a sufficient set for a highlighted arrangement. The director's other works would otherwise not be available in the footer for readers to follow with ease if they want to visit these articles, too. Erik (talk) 17:20, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Calculator numeral

Template:Calculator numeral (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only transcluded on one page: a talk page. Its two listed uses (counters on userpages and coding sums) do not seem frequent enough to justify an entire template with its associated images. (I noticed this from User:TheDJ/badfiletypes, which pointed out that the "Calculator.jpg" this uses is actually an entirely white BMP file). PleaseStand (talk) 03:22, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Along with having no well-defined use, this template is also completely inaccessible to text-based browsers and screen readers — in links2, for instance, all you get is:

  Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg CalculatorTwo.jpg CalculatorOne.jpg CalculatorSix.jpg CalculatorFive.jpg CalculatorFive.jpg
  Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg    Calculator.jpg    Calculator.jpg    Calculator.jpg     Calculator.jpg
  Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg    Calculator.jpg    Calculator.jpg    Calculator.jpg     Calculator.jpg
  Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg    Calculator.jpg    Calculator.jpg    Calculator.jpg     Calculator.jpg
  Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg Calculator.jpg    Calculator.jpg    Calculator.jpg    Calculator.jpg     Calculator.jpg

Good luck making any sense of that. Zetawoof_(ζ) 05:37, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment isn't there a way to insert alt tags? The template could be modded to do that, if it is possible. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 06:43, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Joseph Cedar

Template:Joseph Cedar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only navigates three films. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:07, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep because three films is a sufficient set for a highlighted arrangement. The director's other works would otherwise not be available in the footer for readers to follow with ease if they want to visit these articles, too. Erik (talk) 16:35, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I've seen 2 of 3 of these. Some people hold the fellow in high regard. I don't think 3 films warrants a template. Varlaam (talk) 00:44, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Films directed by Guy Gilles

Template:Films directed by Guy Gilles (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Mostly redlinks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:55, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral; I think there is potential in the red links, but the age and nationality of these films mean that reliable sources are not so discoverable. Would recommend interlinking blue links via "See also" sections, and no issue with recreating this template if more of his filmography contains blue links. Erik (talk) 18:36, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Les cafés de Paris (1966) is listed twice. I don't know him, but the film titles are interesting. It makes me want to look into this guy. Varlaam (talk) 02:45, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not enough working links to make a useful navbox. Can recreate if/when there are more articles to link. --RL0919 (talk) 15:36, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Roxy Hunter

Template:Roxy Hunter (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only navigates four articles (title is a dab.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:52, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep because four articles is sufficient for formalized navigation. It would be too forced to try to fit in the article body the three other films' titles. Erik (talk) 17:32, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Abstain. I'm Canadian. Varlaam (talk) 03:13, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Goopy-Bagha Franchise

Template:Goopy-Bagha Franchise (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only navigates three films. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:11, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep because three films is a sufficient set for a highlighted arrangement. The director's other works would otherwise not be available in the footer for readers to follow with ease if they want to visit these articles, too. Erik (talk) 16:34, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This template doesn't track a director, it tracks a pair of characters. There are also templates for the directors associated with each article. --RL0919 (talk) 14:10, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Russian federal city2

Template:Infobox Russian federal city2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only used in one article and apparently redundant of {{Infobox settlement}} (please correct me if I'm mistaken.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:21, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It needs to be reconciled with {{Infobox Russian federal city}} (the reason there are two infoboxes for the same purpose is because I was discussing options with another user, and the other template was created as a testing grounds), but neither can be replaced with {{Infobox settlement}} too well, as there are several important options specific to Russia which {{Infobox settlement}} does not support. Keep for now (and I promise to bump this up on my to-do list :)).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 27, 2010; 02:41 (UTC)

Comment At the risk of sounding preachy, this is a perfect example of why you should userfy experiments rather than trying them in the article namespace. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:18, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Russian federal city

Template:Infobox Russian federal city (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only used in one article and apparently redundant of {{Infobox settlement}} (please correct me if I'm mistaken.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:20, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep for the reason above ({{Infobox Russian federal city2}} nom).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 27, 2010; 02:42 (UTC)

Template:Filmography of Simbudevan

Template:Filmography of Simbudevan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only navigates three films. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:12, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep because three films is a sufficient set for a highlighted arrangement. The director's other works would otherwise not be available in the footer for readers to follow with ease if they want to visit these articles, too. Erik (talk) 16:34, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Filmography of Siddique

Template:Filmography of Siddique (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only navigates three films. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:11, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep because three films is a sufficient set for a highlighted arrangement. The director's other works would otherwise not be available in the footer for readers to follow with ease if they want to visit these articles, too. Erik (talk) 16:34, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Bappaditya Bandopadhyay Films

Template:Bappaditya Bandopadhyay Films (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only navigates ~~three~~ two films, mostly redlinks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:15, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep because the set of three blue links is sufficient for the navigation template as a formal arrangement of the director's works. I am not sure about the presence of red links in the template, though... initial search engine results do not show any potential. In any case, three is enough for navigation. Erik (talk) 18:17, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Three is not enough for navigation. Delete unless at least two more of those links turn blue. 81.111.114.131 (talk) 04:00, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Maltese town

Template:Infobox Maltese town (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, apparently redundant of {{Infobox settlement}}. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:18, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Geobox Settlement

Template:Geobox Settlement (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Superseded by {{Geobox}}, only ~20 transclusions in article namespace. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:17, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note {{TfD}} cannot be added, as template is protected. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:24, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Now tagged. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:52, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]