User talk:Jason Rees

Notes

Dear Tropical cyclone editor, As a member of the Tropical Cyclone Wikiproject, you are receiving this message to describe how you can better tropical cyclone articles. There are hundreds of tropical cyclone articles, though many of them are poorly organized and lacking in information. Using the existing featured articles as a guide line, here is the basic format for the ideal tropical cyclone article.

1. Intro- The intro for every article should be, at a minimum, 2 paragraphs. For more impacting hurricanes, it should be 3. The first should describe the storm in general, including a link to the seasonal article, its number in the season, and other statistics. The second should include a brief storm history, while the third should be impact.
2. Storm history- The storm history should be a decent length, relatively proportional to the longevity of the storm. Generally speaking, the first paragraph should be the origins of the storm, leading to the system reaching tropical storm status. The second should be the storm reaching its peak. The third should be post-peak until landfall and dissipation. This section is very flexable, depending on meteorological conditions, but it should generally be around 3. Storm histories can be longer than three paragraphs, though they should be less than five. Anything more becomes excessive. Remember, all storm impacts, preparations, and records can go elsewhere. Additional pictures are useful here. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its peak, use a landfall picture in the storm history. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its landfall, use the peak. If the landfall is its peak, use a secondary peak, or even a random point in the storm's history.
3. Preparations- The preparations section can be any length, depending on the amount of preparations taken by people for the storm. Hurricane watches and warnings need to be mentioned here, as well as the number of people evacuated from the coast. Include numbers of shelters, and other info you can find on how people prepared for the storm.
4. Impact- For landfalling storms, the impact section should be the majority of the article. First, if the storm caused deaths in multiple areas, a death table would work well in the top level impact section. A paragraph of the general effects of the storm is also needed. After the intro paragraph, impact should be broken up by each major area. It depends on the information, but sections should be at least one paragraph, if not more. In the major impact areas, the first paragraph should be devoted to meteorological statistics, including rainfall totals, peak wind gusts on land, storm surge, wave heights, beach erosion, and tornadoes. The second should be actual damage. Possible additional paragraphs could be detailed information on crop damage or specifics. Death and damage tolls should be at the end. Pictures are needed, as well. Ideally, there would be at least one picture for each sub-section in the impact, though this sometimes can't happen. For storms that impact the United States or United States territories, this site can be used for rainfall data, including an image of rainfall totals.
5. Aftermath- The aftermath section should describe foreign aid, national aid, reconstruction, short-term and long-term environmental effects, and disease. Also, the storm's retirement information, whether it happened or not, should be mentioned here.
6. Records- This is optional, but can't hurt to be included.
7. Other- The ideal article should have inline sourcing, with the {{cite web}} formatting being preferable. Always double check your writing and make sure it makes sense.

Good luck with future writing, and if you have a question about the above, don't hesitate to ask.

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Nadi Airport 24-hr rainfall data : 24h rs to 9am Thu 8 Jan : 100.1mm. 24 hrs to 9am Fri 9 Jan : 239.3mm 24 hts to 9am Sat 10 Jan : 102.9mm 24 hrs to 9am Sun 11 Jan : 280.8mm To date, 7 confirmed fatalities.

I wish there was a reference to this information (it might be worth checking out sites which contain SYNOP data such as Texas A&M.) Maybe you'll have better luck at the Nadi, Fiji website than I have. I have not been able to download their documents with flood images (the download is phenomenally snow)...I guessing it's the recent event, but since I can't download them, I don't know. FYI. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Daman Sources

[1], [2] [3] [4], [5] [6] [7] [8], [9] Note – this is only partially due to Daman, [10], [11], [12], [13], [14],

I'll keep adding more when I find them (Reason for links per IRC incase anyone is confused :P) Cyclonebiskit 14:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

WPTC convert template policy

Re: the reversion of my edits to Cyclone Aila. As a Wiki patroller, I regularly improve articles by adding the convert template to show international units and help our readers understand numbers in dimensions and terms familiar to them. Would you please help me learn what's correct by pointing me to the specific page/section that describes the convert template policy on tropical cyclone articles. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 01:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I dont know where its written in fact its probbably one of those unwritten rules :), but we dont use the convert templates as we need to round to the nearest 5 to follow what the RSMCs and TCWCs use in their operational and post storm products. TThe Convert template dosent round to the nearest 5 as far as i am aware. Jason Rees (talk) 01:40, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. In addition to putting your reply above (just to keep things together), I have asked if this could be added to the template, see Template talk:Convert#Rounding. Truthanado (talk) 02:03, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tropical Storm Karina (2008)/archive1 as to why this is done. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 20:51, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Not too difficult to get around the rounding problem. Example 1,000 nmi (1,852 km; 1,151 mi), 1,000 nmi (1,850 km; 1,150 mi) and 1,000 nmi (1,900 km; 1,200 mi), pick and choose between "|0|", "|sigfig=3|" and "|sigfig=2|" according to the context and need. Similarly 205 kn (380 km/h; 240 mph) Peter Horn User talk 23:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Problem with Cyclone Cliff

While working on the retired Australian names template, I found that there was a Cyclone Cliff retired in 1981. This means that both articles will have to have the year in the title. Can you make a disambiguation page for this name too? Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Later when i feel better :)Jason Rees (talk) 14:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Re:Extratopical

Not to sound rude, but it says Ex-TC Laurence here Syntheticalconnections (talk) 00:57, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Favor

Can you find all the forecasts for AUS for this season and organize it in a seasonal forecasts table and ship it to my user talk page? Thanks, and Happy holidays! Darren23^Edits|Mail 21:08, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Hi

Hi there Jason. Thank you for the article writing advice, that will certainly come in handy. Do you have any suggestions for how to expand it, though? It seems so many other articles are so much longer, even in the same season. I saw there were a lot of other sources on the Becky article, like a newspaper, or some office reports on the storm, like this http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/storm_wallets/cdmp/dvd0031-jpg/1970/atlantic/becky/tropdisc/tcd2209z.jpg . Is there something similar for Alma? --Viennaiswaiting (talk) 21:51, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks a lot! --Viennaiswaiting (talk) 23:36, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Jason. Since Darren isn't answering, I was wonrdering if you could help me. I think I'm finished with the Alma article... I can't find much else, but I want someone else to look at it. Thanks for those links again, they came in handy.--Viennaiswaiting (talk) 03:12, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi, since you helped me with my other article, i was wondering if you could look over my new article - Subtropical Storm Alpha (1972). I spent a lot of time on it, so I hope it's good. THanks! --Viennaiswaiting (talk) 15:15, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

If you're still around, i have another question. how can i get my articles to be good articles? i'm interested in doing a featured topic and it says i need good articles and featured articles. i had the stuff on the talk page for alma, but then you removed it. what am i doing wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Viennaiswaiting (talk • contribs) 21:49, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Wow, cool,thanks! I guess i'm used to research papers in school, so it was pretty fun to do. Thanks for your help, too. just let me know when ur done so I can nominate them for good article. --Viennaiswaiting (talk) 17:37, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Apologies for the Australian Season edit.

Sorry about that ridiculous edit on my part, I completely screwed up the dates given the storms crossed into the new decade. Thanks for fixing it for me. Cyclonica (talk) 03:54, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank You

Well, I am just here to say thank you for helping me while I was here in WP, and I am just wishing you luck on your future projects in the future. And no, I am not overreacting, but probably I will come back when I have a lot more time in my hands. Darren23^Edits|Mail 22:48, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Cyclone Larry

What do you consider the article needs to have updated to warrant a "time sensitive" update template. It certainly isn't "recent events", so is there some "newly available information" in available sources that isn't represented in the article?

Any article "may need to be updated", but not all articles warrant the template. It seems unlikely that the most significant details would not be in the article 5 years after the event, and the article can be edited with or without the template.--Jeffro77 (talk) 00:51, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

The {{Update}} template is meant to be used for any article that uses out-of-date information or sources, not just those that cover recent topics. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 01:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Um... okay... I'll repeat the question then. Is there some "newly available information" in available sources that isn't represented in the article?--Jeffro77 (talk) 01:22, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah - The article is need off a massive update with information from post storm anaylsis needed to be added.Jason Rees (talk) 01:24, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Disambiguation pages

Hello, I finished them. --Priyanka 02:48, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Second opinion

Thank you for providing the helpful comment at Talk:Tropical Storm Heidi (1971)/GA1. --maclean (talk) 06:31, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Please verify the output of your script before commiting

Please actually look at changes a script is doing before going with them. I reverted some of your changes to National Weather Service bulletin for New Orleans region because they are detrimental to readablity. --96.240.189.80 (talk) 19:20, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

No there not - white spaces shouldnt be in articles as they are pointless.Jason Rees (talk) 19:22, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

A Quick Question:

Hello, I am planning to write a timeline for the 1982-83 SPac Season and I was wondering, who named the storms before Nadi was formed in the early 90's? Thank you, --Priyanka 17:23, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks! --Priyanka 18:08, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

2009 Pacific typhoon season#Typhoon Parma (Pepeng)

Hallo Jason, at the moment I am trying to complete the German version of that article. As for the other basins than the Atlantic the tropical cyclones in the German WP are a one-man show I must most parts of these articles translate. However I did some coverage of Parma and Melor in the German Wikinews. This just for explaining. Now the issue. ;-)

The section about Parma is at the moment rather messy; it consists of one very long paragraph and another short one which doesn't appear on the right place chronically but is somewhat redundant as well. Since I saw that you are refurbishing the article would you mind if I try to rearrange this section and fill in some of my sources? --Matthiasb (talk) 07:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

User:Viennaiswaiting/Sandbox1

hellllllo there, i was wondering if you could help me a bit. i was working on an article for hurricane paine in 1986, but there's a problem. most of the impact is related to a larger flooding event, and the hurricane only tagged along at the end. i'm not really familiar with flooding articles, and i don't want to lose the emphasis on the hurricane, but there wasn't much impact directly from the hurricane. any suggestions? --Viennaiswaiting (talk) 21:32, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I encountered a similar dilemma with Tropical Storm Heidi (1971). Just include a summary of the flooding that took place and explain the hurricane's affiliation with it. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 21:39, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

ok, i think i got the idea. thx bro --Viennaiswaiting (talk) 21:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

2004 North Indian Ocean cyclone season

Can I ask what you meant when you said "Thats not allowed" with regards to my renaming of the duplication section headers to make them unique? Thanks! VernoWhitney (talk) 15:37, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Its simple you are not allowed to add numbers like that - its counted as OR.Jason Rees (talk) 15:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok, since you appear to be involved with this and other related cyclone season articles, do you know of a way to differentiate the different Depressions and bring the articles in line with the WP:Headings guideline without finding a source which would make it not OR? I'm just trying to be a dilligent WikiGnome here, so if there's not a standard way to do it without a source, just say so and I'll drop it unless I can track something down to support a change. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:48, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

The IMD does apply the designations ARBXX or BOBXX (XX=number), but id need to research the designations before adding them in to that season.Jason Rees (talk) 15:59, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate that information. The next time I get the urge to work on this article (or any of the related ones) I can look into that. If it's not bothering you then there's no reason you should have to do extra work. Thanks again! VernoWhitney (talk) 16:15, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Leslie FAC

Since you are/were a major contributor, though only a few edits you are the second greatest per Dashboard, I wanted you to know that the Tropical Storm Leslie article is up to the FAC --12george1 (talk) 16:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Is there anything else you want to bring up at the FAC? --12george1 (talk) 16:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I spent most of today replacing the author for a person rather than an organization on the refs. With the exception of the Miami-Dade County government sources (Refs #5&6) and the FEMA sources; neither government organization seems to mention anyone specific as author.--12george1 (talk) 00:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

New Messages

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112.203.184.112 (talk) 07:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Cyclone Edzani

So does this cyclone deserve an article? And if so, can someone make it? 112.203.184.112 (talk) 12:40, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Where hurricanes lie

Last I checked, the Indian ocean and western Pacific don't use the hurricane term. The Southeast Pacific does, however. Since the Brazilian Navy has never clarified which term is used in the South Atlantic, we really don't know what term to use down there. Tropical cyclone is nice and generic and covers everything. Cyclone and hurricane should be avoided, until the Brazilian Navy takes the lead on what terminology they wish to use for the southern Atlantic. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:18, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind. A little digging, including a read of the Catarina article, found this link which states they plan to use the hurricane term, which is used everywhere else in the Western Hemisphere. I'm going to have to revert your change. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:31, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

American Samoa uses the term hurricane as well in their warnings. Thegreatdr (talk) 03:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Edzani

So can you now continue with your sandbox at User:Jason Rees/Edzani? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:58, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

List of Historic Tropical Cyclone Names

The main problems I see with the article (now that the enormous task of referencing appears to be done) are that it does not have a lead summarizing the article below, and that a couple of the sections (southern Indian Ocean, southwest Pacific) don't have a paragraph summarizing a history of their naming, which the other sections do. Once those problems are solved, I'd imagine sending the list to featured status would be a snap. To be more certain, ask Juliancolton who has more experience getting through the featured list process than I do. I only have one right now, the one dealing with List of wettest tropical cyclones in the United States. Thegreatdr (talk) 17:48, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

W/C

Depends on what they (whoever "they" are) mean by "soon"! The deletions from my archive are done manually and I always stop doing this when WebCite is on the blink. Hopefully this will happen less often on its new server.--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 21:36, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

I reviewed your article on 1990 Andhra Pradesh cyclone and put it on hold. The biggest problem is the writing, both in awkward phrasing and run-ons. You have seven days to address my concerns. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:12, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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Template:Hurdat

Hey thanks for the help with the Hurdat template data for Hurricane Henri (1979). I'm curious how you got the data in that particular format, because I'd like to get it for Hurricane Dolly (2008) as well which also passed very near Scorpion Reef. Thanks -Marcusmax(speak) 02:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh okay thank you, this Hurdat data is really good for figuring any direct hits by Tropical Cyclones. -Marcusmax(speak) 02:52, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Ooh with Hurricane Henri that would be quite hard to determine. I can tell you with 100% certainty that it passed directly over Scorpion Reef however without further data I can't tell if it went directly over an island but it certinally passed within at least 10 miles of one in the group. -Marcusmax(speak) 21:41, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

2010 North Indian Ocean Cyclone Season

Hello Jason ! I would just like to comment about the 2010 North Indian Ocean Cyclone Season. Because I seen that you removed my edit about the unknown cyclone that hit eastern India past days ago. and I just wan't you to ask a question. Did I broke again the rules in Wikipedia? But I have a reliable source and references. thanks. take care. God bless. Jpuligan_12 (talk) 2010-04-17 18:20 (UTC).

ah ok. hahahaha. thanks for correcting me. god bless :) Jpuligan_12 (talk) 2010-04-17 19:38 (UTC).

Infobox hurricane small

Someone higher up (not the people who edited the template) must have changed the styles and messed up the formatting to these templates. Some of the text in the boxes here are centered and some aren't. I hate when they make system-wide changes. Potapych (talk) 21:44, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Wind Speeds

Out of curiosity, the convert template is not used for wind speeds? -Marcusmax(speak) 02:42, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Helpful as always, thanks much -Marcusmax(speak) 03:04, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Template:Costliest_Cuban_hurricanes

I'm pretty sure Ivan would be #5 on that template you made. Per the WMO, it did $1.2 billion in 2004 USD, which would be $1.38 billion in 2010 USD. The problem is that the WMO link in the Ivan article is down, and it doesn't seem the WMO has the reports archived pre-2005. I'll try and find another link for that damage total.

BTW, if you were to make that a top ten, the next few would be Charley, Wilma, and Kate 85. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Template: Infobox Hurricane

Hello. I've been trying to clean up broken anchor links on various tropical storm articles, and noticed that for the Aus and SPac basins the Hurricane Infobox template links to Australian scale, which looks like this [[Tropical cyclone scales#Categories and ranking|Australian scale]], but the Categories and ranging section is no longer in the article. Linking to Australian scale [[Tropical cyclone scales#Australia|Australian scale]] seems to be the right thing to do instead. I played with it on the sandbox/testpage and it worked well, and tried fixing the template, but it didn't seem to change anything. I don't know if it takes some time for the changes to take effect (I tried clearing the browser cache), but for now I have reverted my changes just in case. Could you take a look at it if you get a chance? Thanks. Winston365 (talk) 20:22, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok, cool. It is working for me now for some storms, ie. Cyclone Xavier (2006) and Cyclone Urmil (2006) (both of which I edited recently), but not yet for some others, ie. Cyclone Tam (2006) and the storms you linked me (Cyclone Tracy and Cyclone Lin (2009)). I suspect it's just some technical issues with wikipedia and they'll all come around sooner or later. Checking my watchlist reports "Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 2,079 seconds may not appear in this list." I've never seen it anywhere near that bad before, so I suspect there may be a clog in the tubes somewhere. Thanks very much for looking into it for me. Winston365 (talk) 22:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

A Favor Please...

Hello,

I am currently working on a timeline for the 03-04 SPac season here: User:Anhamirak/0304. For the image of Cyclone Heta, I do not know what to put for the alternate text. Do you know by any chance, what I should put?

Thanks,

--Yueof theNorth 19:55, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks for the help!

--Yueof theNorth 20:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello...

Hello, I noticed that you reviewed 03-04 SPac timeline. Could you possibly tell me somethings that I need to improve? Thanks! --Yueof theNorth 19:19, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

2009 Pacific typhoon season

OK, so you didn't like the heading changes I made here. The reason I made them was that this article is showing up on this error list because of the duplicate headings. Do you have a better suggestion of how to make the headings unique? --Auntof6 (talk) 04:15, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

There is no doable way of making them unique and personally i dont see the need of them needing to be unique.Jason Rees (talk) 13:45, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

It's here in the Wikipedia style manual. I thought the way I did it was doable. Did you have a specific problem with that method? You can reply here, because I am watching your talk page. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:51, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

That says its optional, and the way you did it you added the wrong dates and i dont personally think its worth it because several articles use duplicate headers and they have passed FAC.Jason Rees (talk) 20:48, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

OK, sorry for using the wrong dates. What if I used the dates in the accompanying images? I'm not asking you to make the change -- I will make it. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:04, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

i cant remember whether we will have this problem with 2009 PTS but sometimes we can have more than 1 depression forming on a day so we would have the same problem.Jason Rees (talk) 21:15, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Cyclone Phet

Hi Jason ! You have deleted some of my edits. mind ... can I ask you why ? Even you deleted the "Cyclone Yemyin" from "See Also" section ??? and about the upgradating of the cyclone system into "Very Severe Tropical Cyclone" by the Pakistan Meteorological Department, although its reference is already given ??? --Zubair71 (talk) 15:57, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

1) Yemyin is not relevant

2) PMD did not upgrade Phet into a VSCS - they follow what the IMD say.Jason Rees (talk) 15:59, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Jason ... About Yemyin to be "not relevant" may be your personal opinion, but a "Senior Meteorologist's" view considers it to be the "most relevant" to the concerned region. May I ask you to revert this, so include "Cyclone Yemyin" into the "See Also" section. Zubair71 (talk) 16:12, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

How is it relevant? AFAIK the last TC's to affect Pakistan were ARB 01/02 of last year.Jason Rees (talk) 16:15, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Then the "Cyclone Nargis" should also be deleted from "See Also" section, as it is "more irrelevant" ? Zubair71 (talk) 16:19, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Nargis is only there because it was the last equiv hurricane ill probably end up substituting it for a link to the List of the most intense tropical cyclones should Phet qualify. Anyway i dont mind adding it but i just need to know how it is relevant - im probably just overlooking something.Jason Rees (talk) 16:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: Phet/ARB 01 2001

I did, I specified the lead of ARB 01 2001 to state it's the second strongest by barometric pressure. Oficially, the IMD has ARB 01 as a much stronger storm than Phet so it doesn't really matter. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:29, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Futurama revival

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Cyclone Phet's Position

Hi, you know that cyclone phet is the second strongest cyclone not 2001 india cyclone and there are some problems with the names of Cyclon 2a and 3a please check that. talk 23:20, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

No its not the second strongest cyclone in the Arabian sea as the official warning center (The IMD) for the Arabian sea only reported a pressure of 960hpa where as the IMD reported a peak pressure of 932 for the 2001 India Cyclone. RegardsJason Rees (talk) 18:26, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

If I may add, the India Meteorological Department (IMD) was designated as the RSMC by the World Meteorological Organization. Therefore, we use their data for rankings of intensities. --Yueof theNorth 18:41, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi its me agian, Cyclone phet is the 2nd strongest cyclone in the arabian sea since it was a category 4 and 2001 cyclone was category 3... I also note that i had removed this line "37 people killed in punjab due to outer flow of phet"...thats wrong the storm that hit upper parts of Pakistan was due to a strong Western Disturbance. So please make that correction as senior Pak met office head also said the same things..--15jan19932010 (talk) 07:14, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Cyclone Phet is not the 2nd strongest cyclone in the Arabian sea as the IMD who are the official warning agency for the Indian Ocean only reported a pressure of 960hpa also the strongest cyclone is measured by pressure and not using windspeeds.Jason Rees (talk) 13:29, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Until we get an official source saying Phet was stronger than initially thought, and that its pressure was much lower, we can't call it the second strongest cyclone in the Arabian Sea. Now, you could call it the second strongest named cyclone, but naming is trivial considering they've only had it for 6 years. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:23, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Gale percentage needed for Atlantic tropical storms - virtually zero

One wind report from QuikScat (or equivalent), land, or ship report which is outside severe-type convection that can occur during vertical wind shear situations. That's all. No "gales must cover two or more quadrants of its circulation for it to be considered a tropical storm." Thegreatdr (talk) 21:06, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

It would be the same for the whole Western Hemisphere where tropical cyclone advisories are written, I do believe. Thegreatdr (talk) 23:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback and signing posts

Please remember to sign your talk page posts.

Also, Talkback is not a good way to notify editors of article talk page posts. Talkback is for letting editors known when they have a response on another editor's talk page.

The idea is that if we want to know when an article talk page is updated, we will have it on watch.- Sinneed 15:13, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

In this case, I had the article on watch... I just had nothing to say. I have added a reply that I had nothing to say.- Sinneed 15:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Good point! I have opened a thread on that subject at template talk:talkback#Use for article talk pages - problem and thoughts. - Sinneed 16:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello...

Hello Jason,

I saw your userpage with resources on it. By any chance, would you know any online location with TCWC Wellington books from the 1970's?

Thanks! --Yueof theNorth 21:04, 14 June 2010 (UTC)