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Acting Solicitor General

This comment is applicable here and on the Solicitor General of the United States page. Kagan has stepped aside in her duties as Solicitor General, but still, as of today's date, the OSG official site says that Kagan is the Solicitor General. Certainly, Katyal is the acting Solicitor General, but should he be listed in the line of succession of Solicitors General, or if Kagan's nomination is not successful and she resumes the office? Curious.--Enos733 (talk) 06:17, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted erroneous information.

I deleted an erroneous and unsubstantiated claim that Kagan has already been approved. The link led to a page that had absolutely nothing to do with that statement. I also could not independently find any news source that confirmed it.Napkin65 (talk) 05:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think that you may have deleted too quickly. What you deleted said that she had been approved by the committee, which is true. I heard it reported on NPR as I was driving to work yesterday, and I see it in the New York Times as well: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/21/us/21kagan.html?_r=1&hpw Sterrettc (talk) 19:18, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Questioning Ms. Kagan's Title

The article now states that Ms. Kagan is currently an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court. This is presumably a result of the Senate having voted to confirm her nomination. I wonder, however, is this is not premature. We have no sources that she has been given her judicial commission by the president yet, and she has not taken any oath of office. I do not know the legalities involved, but I am not sure if at this moment she is actually an Associate Justice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.83.61 (talk) 22:29, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article also indicates she takes office August 7. Jonathunder (talk) 22:36, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indefinite detention without trial

I've rewritten this section, which is based on a single article by Charlie Savage in the earliest days of the Obama administration. As I understand it, Kagan may have been questioned on this point at length during the Supreme Court nomination process but there's absolutely nothing about that here as yet, so I've tagged the section as incomplete. Obviously any actual words from Kagan about her views on the matter, rather than paraphrases by a journalist, would help to make this section far more complete. --TS 22:44, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmation

Has Obama signed her judicial commission yet? Until then, she's a confirmed nominee, but not a justice... It's the commission that makes them a justice, not the confirmation vote or the swearing in; see Marbury v. Madison. Just sayin'. -- Foofighter20x (talk) 03:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Attending Synagogue

hello. I don't intend to do any editing, just read the article and was shaking my (European) head. The fact that Kagan is Jewish is not directly mentioned where it should be, but indirectly “introduced” by the incomprehensible remark (you have no idea, how many people there are in the world, who don't have the faintest idea, what a synagogue is, and who “attends” it, or what for) “and attended Lincoln Square Synagogue”, which won't do at all. Please, change it. Thanks, ajnem (talk) 08:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmmm... Perhaps you missed "Kagan was independent and strong-willed in her youth, according to Bill Lubic, a former law partner, who recalled Kagan clashed with her Orthodox rabbi over aspects of her bat mitzvah." I mean rabbi and bat mitsvah are technical Jewish terms you are perhaps not familiar?
And then there is "Kagan's rabbi, Shlomo Riskin, had never performed a ritual bat mitzvah before." Most non-Jews don't have a rabbi but I'm just one of your stereotypical American strawmen who don't have the faintest idea what a synagogue is and who attends them.
"Today, she identifies with Conservative Judaism." Again, this is a sentiment not likely found in non-Jews.
"She is also the eighth Jewish justice in the Supreme Court's history, and the third on the current bench."
Given how sparsly her religious affinity has been treated and not directly mentioned in the main article, I can certainly see how you would think the way you do.
By the way, what was your point again? Nightg1 (talk) 18:18, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the point is that it is not outright said "She is a Jewish American." It could be mentioned earlier in the article instead of dribbled into the paragraphs later. That aside but closely related, the "Personal Life and Educational History" section as a whole reads like a storybook rather than an encyclopedia. Really, it's interesting to note, but her high school yearbook photo? I mean, I'm not for hasty deletion, but could it be better presented or justified perhaps? 184.0.123.138 (talk) 20:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Who is she?

Who is this woman? Is she really so notable to deserve a front page news feature? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 12:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Who are you? Looking through your talk page, it looks like you are a professional troll. 69.115.54.57 (talk) 15:59, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nah I've got a real job so I can't be considered a pro. But seriously, this feature seems like a prime example of USA bias. This news item means nothing to most of the world. I read the article, and she still means nothing to me. I'm not trying to be a d***, I just really think that this isn't front page material. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 16:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As for US bias, if you want numbers, think of how many native speakers of English there are in the world and how many of them live in the United States, and consider that the Wikimedia Foundation's postal address is in San Francisco and the cofounders of Wikipedia are from Alabama and Alaska. All that aside, she's Obama's newest Supreme Court Appointee. That's a big deal. 184.0.123.138 (talk) 20:21, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you're here to discuss improving this article, you are in the right place. For discussion of the main page or in the news, please use the talk pages for those. Jonathunder (talk) 22:49, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

True story. About two hours ago, I went to meet a friend for a drink at the Sofitel lounge a few blocks from the White House, and I saw Elana Kagan there with a group of people. I actually went over and introduced myself and shook her hand. It was rather surreal. bd2412 T 23:58, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I remember once a long time ago I met a very famous opera singer. I'm a big opera buff, and it was really special for me to talk to her. I never think of myself as the star-struck type, but I gotta say I was extraordinarily nervous.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:28, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It was quite something. I'm sure I came off as an enormous dweeb, but I'll quickly be forgotten. :-) bd2412 T 02:37, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Surely not. You have been recorded by Kagan's Secret Service detail: "15.32 Enormous dweeb shakily introduced self to subject, shook her hand with sweaty palms, and tripped over his words until everyone was awkward. No lethal force was needed." Not like I wouldn't have belted a few vodkas back before doing the same or anything and then sloshed all over her and hiccuped. Then hit on her. --Moni3 (talk) 02:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Did you get a photo, BD2412? Jonathunder (talk) 04:19, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Why Is There no Mention of Her Multiple connections to the Monsanto Corporation????? - anonymous coward
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