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This notice feels a bit silly. I don't know of many advertisements that point out that a company was founded by a nazi. Niczar ⏎ 14:47, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

nazi

whats up with all that nazi stuff? this article must be written by americans. if all articles on wiki would give "nazi-realations" so much space (maybe because americans like nazis?) than it would finaly end up in a farce.

Page name

I request that the name of this article is changed to 'HUGO BOSS' instead of 'Hugo Boss'. The company, like many others such as the spelling of eBay or iPod etc chooses to write it's logo like that in all written documentation, employees must write it that way and the press are asked (not always comply) to that presentation too.

HUGO BOSS is a trademark of Hugo Boss, not the actual name. You wouldn't make the title of the PlayStation 3 article PLAYSTATION 3 simply because it's trademarked that way. Examples such as eBay and iPod are part of corporate identity and also serve the purpose of differentiating letters in the name.(Myscrnnm (talk) 17:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

If this can be approved I will also change the way the article is written with reference to the sub-brands of BOSS & HUGO again with the capital letters.

The issue is that this article is primarily about the company NOT the person, if it was the person it should most certainly be 'Hugo Boss'. I have no objections to adding AG. --Djkinsella 22:50, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a split would be in order: one about the company (HUGO BOSS AG) and one about the person. Daniel Case 15:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I agree, I don't think I have the "priveleges" to create the pages. Is it necessary to call it HUGO BOSS AG as surely it would be necessary to revise all the fashion company articles to S.p.A's etc. --Djkinsella 18:03, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Involvement of firm in SS uniform production

when u say that Hugo Boss and HUGO BOSS designed for teh german army in WW1 and WW=II ,So did HUGO BOSS design the uniforms of the Nazi's ??? The SS and other Uniforms ?? Bhansingh

I object that it is presented as fact here that Hugo Boss AG designed and manufactured the SS uniforms. The reference links to another website (americandefenseleague.com) , which claims to be re-printing an article from The Washington Post, but no direct link to TWP or the newspaper on which the TWP article is based is provided.

Searching the Internet for the headline from the supposed article only yields results in blogs that repost and reference the americandefenseleague.com article and (of course) the original ADL article. Given the lack of substance to this website and associated blogs, I don't think it's proper for Wiki to allow this to be posted as a verifiable fact.

If you go to the Holocaust exhibition in the imperial war museum, it tells you about Hugo boss's involvement.

I guess the above are two persons discussing, but hard to say. Anyway, another source: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B00E4DF153FF936A2575BC0A961958260 Mkro (talk) 18:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added 2 NYT citations to the Hugo Boss page about this topic, which discusses the use of slave labor by the company. This has been verified by Mr. Boss's son and the company itself.

The article claims that the Hugo Boss firm designed SS uniforms during WWII. However, the sources cited in the article for this purpose do not state anything about designing - they refer to manufacturing. Unless I'm missing something, the term should be corrected. -The Gnome (talk) 16:11, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed the article is contradictory in itself as it first states two designers and then says Hugo Boss designed and manufactured the uniforms. I amended the chapter to be in line with the referenced query.nytimes.com article. Hope you'll agree. Wschroedter (talk) 23:27, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article says "He died in 1948 but his business survived and in 1953, with the demand for SS uniforms gone, the business turned its hand to making suits." This seems to be implying that the firm was making SS uniforms until 1953. Jhobson1 (talk) 10:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with the current phrasing is that, jumping off from press reports a couple of years ago, the strong impression is given that Boss was the principal or only manufacturer of SS and other Nazi Party uniforms. In fact Boss was only one among hundreds- practically every clothing factory in Germany took on Government and Party contracts under the RZM.Solicitr (talk) 15:44, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Hugo Boss logo.svg

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Requested move

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Move Parsecboy (talk) 13:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Hugo Boss AG → Hugo Boss — The company's brand name is Hugo Boss, the "AG" just means that it is a publicly listed company, and shouldn't be part of the article's name — Axt (talk) 10:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

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Discussion

Any additional comments:
  • I reverted the redirect of Hugo Boss (ostensibly a valid stub as it stood) to Hugo Boss AG, which was performed just a few minutes before this move request was lodged. As there doesn't appear to have been any discussion about this on either this page or Talk:Hugo Boss, the discussion here should probably encapsulate the fate of the biographical article too. The continued existence of that article and the move being proposed here are not mutually exclusive. Gr1st (talk) 18:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was also concerned about that redirect. But, the biography seems to be fully merged into Hugo Boss AG now. Is there anything to say about the person that shouldn't be on Hugo Boss AG? 128.232.100.142 (talk) 09:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I redirected the biographical stub to the company, because I included the relevant information of the biographical article into the company's article. Most links probably link to the company anyway, not to the person, but perhaps a separate article of the sort Hugo Boss (person) would be appropriate. Axt (talk) 09:03, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the article about Hugo Boss the founder to Hugo Ferdinand Boss. Parsecboy (talk) 13:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Involvement of firm in SS uniform design

Under the section heading Involvement in World War II, the page presently states: The all-black uniform of the Nazi Schutzstaffel...was designed by SS-Oberführer Prof. Dr. Karl Diebitsch and graphic designer Walter Heck. I've added a "citation needed" template, as this line is identical to an unsourced statement on the Karl Diebitsch page. -- Deborahjay (talk) 08:40, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Axishistory.com user Derek states under http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=59496&p=1286617 that he has found no proof of D.'s involvement in uniforms. Wschroedter (talk) 23:18, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I did add the source cite long ago to each of the above article pages. The cite for the entry is also currently under the Schutzstaffel article in section: "Special ranks and uniforms". The entry is listed twice on that article page, so I just added the cite to the second place it is mentioned, as well. The cited info. comes from the book: Lumsden, Robin. "A Collector's Guide To: The Allgemeine - SS", Ian Allan Publishing, Inc. 2001, p 53. Kierzek (talk) 00:51, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On the other hand, the notion that Hugo Boss designed the uniform seems not only to be unbased on any source, but actually to be impossible: Boss did not receive an RZM license until 1933, after the uniforms in question were in use. I suspect strongly that the Intertubes added 1 and 1 and got 11: since the Boss firm is now known as a "designer," then the old man was a "designer", and thus must have designed Nazi uniforms, etc. Solicitr (talk) 12:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, Solicitr. It was Diebitsch and Heck who "designed" the black uniform. Kierzek (talk) 00:51, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion No pictures of Hugo Boss the Nazi founder.

In researching the design of WW2 German uniforms I was struck by the lack of images of Hugo Boss himself. Having failed to find one on this site I went through a lot of other web pages and found one that was not just company images. Why is it so hard to find an historical image of Mr Boss?

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