Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phoenix King (disambiguation)

Phoenix King (disambiguation)

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Considering that the article on Phoenix is yet another disambiguation page and that the article List of Monster Rancher monsters no longer exists, I think there's at least only two topics on this subject, and WP:DAB specifically disallows that. :| TelCo NaSp Ve :| 05:34, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, only three entries, of which one doesn't even belong on the page and one doesn't have its own article. No need for disambiguation. JIP | Talk 07:23, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:54, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I cleaned and expanded the dab. -- JHunterJ (talk) 20:26, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:43, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - there is no actual Phoenix King article of any sort in the first place to speak about a disambiguation, no clear primary topic or, let's say, notable topics. If anything, List of Warhammer Fantasy characters should have a dablink mentioning Phoenix King redirects there, and those looking for Ozai might want to look up the term on Avatar Wiki. It is not clear whether the Korean animated movie with "Phoenix King" in the title has been referred to as just "Phoenix King" as it is not in the English title, and the movie itself may not pass the notability guidelines for film. All in all, this is trying to disambiguate obscure or minor things.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 14:56, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Seems a reasonable page that distinguishes between four distinct uses of the term. I've no opinion as to the primary topic, but whether there is a primary topic is a separate discussion from whether to delete the disambiguation page. older ≠ wiser 11:59, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete. Better handled with a redirect hatnote in List of Warhammer Fantasy characters pointing to Ozai. No evidence that Phoenix-bot Phoenix King is referred to as "Phoenix King", and the tag team reference is quite obscure. --Muhandes (talk) 12:46, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The tag team reference is quite obscure, agreed. The Warhammer Fantasy character is also obscure, as is possibly the film. Three obscure topics with an ambiguous possible title need disambiguation. Obscurity is not a barrier to disambiguation, as long as the obscure topic is in Wikipedia. -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:43, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Now that you're half-convinced,[1] if the best service to the reader (disambig page) is deleted, the second-best service would be to delete the redirect as well, so that readers entering the title in the search box land on search results, rather than on the obscure Warhammer Fantasy topic page with no indication on how to get to the other obscure topic they sought. -- JHunterJ (talk) 16:54, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Looks like a legitimate dab page. The film article twice gives the title as just "Phoenix King", and the wrestler is referred to in several articles other than the one cited. And we also might add "The Phoenix King" as the first part of the three-episode Avatar: The Last Airbender series finale Sozin's Comet: The Final Battle. I'm all for deleting useless dab pages, but this one isn't.--ShelfSkewed Talk 14:04, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - some of it a bit marginal but does no harm.PamD (talk)
Comment: I have changed the redirect so that it now points to High Elves (Warhammer), where there is actually information about the Phoenix King, rather than just to the list of characters which included a couple of holders of the title. I think I tied up all the loose ends. PamD (talk) 14:56, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as it now stands. bd2412 T 17:41, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I think that, if kept, the disambiguation page should be at Phoenix King, and the current Phoenix King should be moved to Phoenix King (Warhammer) (and remain a redirect). Given the relative obscurity of all topics, it appears highly doubtful the Warhammer one constitutes the primary topic (in fact, various Google searches would give the edge to Avatar: the Last Airbender, but I wouldn't consider that one the clear primary topic either).--70.80.234.196 (talk) 18:14, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]