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Israeli Palestinian...?

It was written that he was an "Israeli Palestinian" (an article that doesn't exist...). I don't think there's a difference between "Israeli Palestinian" and "Arab citizens of Israel" (seeing how the latter are of Palestinian descent, and currently reside within the State of Israel) - so I changed it to read he was an "Arab citizen of Israel" (i.e. Israeli Arab). — Preceding unsigned comment added by MonkWork (talkcontribs) 14:44, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Israeli Arab actor?

Mr. Mer-Khamis was certainly an Arab - his father was Arab. But he was ALSO a Jew - his mother was Jewish. Therefore he is an Israeli Arab-Jew. Anything else is untruthful. (Many on both sides say there is no such thing. Mr. Mer-Khamis proves otherwise. I am not of the opinion that people are half anything. Mr. Mer-Khamis was IMO wholly Arab, and wholly Jewish. He may have been murdered because he was Jewish. If so, then the murderers, by their hate, and to their horror, prove his Jewishness.)

And to the contributor above, I agree with his change, but let me be clear. "Israeli Palestinian" is an incorrect term for Israeli Arab, and for the most part, does not exist. The word "Palestinian" referring to Arabs is a political construction from the 1960's, and is bound with PLO terror. In 1948 "Palestinian" meant Jewish. So "of Palestinian descent" is a meaningless phrase that is not historically accurate. The Arabs of the Israel and the Arabs of the West Bank (or of Gaza) are politically distinguishable and have for the most part very different political aspirations. Example: If return of the 1948 Arab refugees to their ancestral homeland is the central Palestinian political goal, then the Arabs of Israel are already home. I acknowledge that people can call themselves whatever they wish. Israeli Arabs for the most part call themselves that, freely, and for the most part, proudly. Therefore it is the right name. Oneye1i (talk) 18:32, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How about, He was an Israeli Arab Palestinian Jewish Christian actor, director, filmmaker, and political activist. Did we miss anything?—Biosketch (talk) 20:38, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a description of Juliano as a Palestinian Jew, with a link to a radio interview in which he described himself as "100 percent Palestinian and 100 percent Jewish". RolandR (talk) 22:09, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What is the convention for describing an individual's racial/national/ethnic/religious identity – is it to rely on his own self-characterization or on how official documents and reports characterize him?—Biosketch (talk) 11:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RfC: Israeli or "Palestinian Jew"

A user RolandR (who incidentally I must have offended somehow as he has been reverting all my edits ever since I joined) is trying to add the bizarre, unrecognized, revisionist, and activist term "Palestinian Jewish" as this person's nationality, as opposed to Israeli - based on his interpretation of a radio interview where he called himself "100% Palestinian and 100% Jewish" (a statement which I think you will all agree is open to interpretation). AFolkSingersBeard (talk) 10:25, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don't take it personally if an editor reverts a bunch of your contributions. Posting a comment here at the Discussion is a good way to interact and see what the disagreement is about exactly. I haven't gone through your history, but my impression is that maybe you're trying to edit the article on the basis of what you perceive to be common sense, when what Wikipedia strives for is verifiability. If there are sources that dispute Mer-Khamis's characterization as a "Palestinian Jew," please cite them here at the Discussion page so we can all evaluate them and try to reach a consensus.—Biosketch (talk) 10:57, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'll try not to take it personally - but he continues to revert everything I do, without discussion. It's beyond common sense - type his name into Google "Israeli actor" (Haaretz), [1], "Israeli peace activist" (Guardian) [2], "Arab Israeli actor" (BBC), [3], "Israeli Actor And Activist" (Reuters), [4], etc. AFolkSingersBeard (talk) 11:11, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]