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Does anyone know why cultivar groups aren't listed for fruits on wikipedia? I was wondering why it didn't list Japanese peaches as being distinct from other peaches. It seems like there are differences between fruits in the same species that are significant enough to require their own sections, if not their own articles entirely.
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Why is there a picture of a nectarine at the head of the article, instead of one with a real peach? See for example [1]
Naming question
True or false: this article belongs at Peach and nectarine. 66.245.125.9 23:00, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
False. Nectarines are a subspecies of peach and are nicely dealt with in peach. Should every article with a subspecies be named so? Who's going to look for nectarine and peach? Anyone looking for peaches finds peaches; anyone looking for nectarines finds them here as well via the nectarine page's redirect to peach. PMC 00:06, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
True or false: Peach stones contain cyanide? Seems this article should make some mention of that, either to confirm or debunk it.
- True and False. Fruits (and wilting leaves(?)) of the rose family, including cherries, apples, plums, almonds, peaches, apricots, rasberries, and crabapples, contain in their seeds substances known as "cyanogenetic glycosides" (the most important of which is amygdalin). A glycoside is a molecule which decomposes in water into a sugar molecule and another, nonsugar (in this case hydrogen cyanide gas (hence cyanogenetic)). A child is in serious danger if she ingests more than a couple of the most poisonous of these, the bitter almond, with about 50 putting an adult into mortal danger. google answers Smmurphy(Talk) 06:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Nectarine History
Competing views:
(1) Google 'nectarine' and 'Washington', click Encyclopedia.com link and click Washington Times link;
(2) http://www.thefruitpages.com/peaches.shtml;
(3) http://westernfarmpress.com/news/farming_song_family_quality_2/;
(4) http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c107:2:./temp/~c107In4xB1::;
(5) http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/9109631p-10010541c.html.
Need to determine different variations of nectarine and when each variation was developed?
I've removed this sentence:
"the U.S. government has formally adopted the view that nectarines were (or its modern peach-rivalling variant was) first developed by Korean Americans in the early 20th Century (see 107th Congress, Resolution 185)"
(1) the US Congress resolution is a political decision not based on the facts of historical literature; it has no relevance in any international encyclopedia
(2) The Oxford English Dictionary records the first use of the word 'nectarine' in 1616, so clearly the fruit had been developed by then; also that in 1664 John Evelyn stated "Now also plant peaches and nectarines", and two other pre-1700 references.
(3) The RHS Dictionary of Gardening comments that the nectarine is "common in parts of Turkestan" as an indigenous plant or at least introduced before recorded history, and that "in Britain, John Rea in 1676 listed 35 named cultivars of peaches and 11 named cultivars of nectarines".
(4) The link cited at (1) above states nectarines were already introduced into America by 1720.
So while 20th century Korean Americans may well have been important in breeding modern American nectarine cultivars, they clearly did not play any part in the original discovery and development of the nectarine. I suspect to find that, it will be necessary to study ancient Chinese and Korean literature (i.e., where peaches originally came from). - MPF 19:20, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Perhaps include what you stated, then, as a distinction of nectarine breeds:
"20th century Korean Americans may well have been important in breeding modern American nectarine cultivars...."
As well as the other relevant information you mention above. =)
I've just heard it claimed by a plant geneticist on a BBC4 documentary about John Wyndham that the modern nectarine is a mutation artificially produced by radiation. Also: [2]. This would be remarkable if true, but I can't see any evidence for it.
Nectarine section not entirely visible due to image
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Yeah, I can't see the first few words of that article. Something should be done about that, I feel. Unfortunately, I don't think I know how to do that myself.
Pictures
Very good pictures! Not too little or too much, and all very well shot. loulou 17:18, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
No sources
So many "facts" are mentioned here with no sources. Nice case of wikiality.--Firebird 06:50, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Has anyone seen that peach from Columbia that isnt a peach but has been classified as one?
Nectarine=Peach+Plum: popular misconception?
When I was growing up, I was told that a nectarine was a cross between a peach and a plum. Is this a widely-held misconception? If so, it would be interesting to remark on it in the article (but maybe it was just me). --ScottAlanHill 03:42, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
That Ol' Moldy Peach
I removed Image:DecayingPeachSmall.gif from the article. While admittedly both cool and gross, the animation has no relevancy to the article besides the fact that it involves a peach. That's peachy 'n all, but I really don't think there is any context in the article to support this *.gif. Definitely keep this animation circulating the 'net though, no? --'oac' (old american century) | Talk 03:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
The article has fairly good pics now. Mold on the surface of peaches is a common experience in ordinary lives. A picture of such surface mold would be a good addition to the article. -69.87.200.100 (talk) 20:20, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Nectarines
I'm kind of curious why this edit moved the nectarine to its own page, without any discussion first. 76.202.58.168 17:59, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'd be inclined to merge them back together again; there's no significant difference between them (e.g. a white-flesh peach and a white-flesh nectarine are more alike each other, than a white-flesh peach and a yellow-flesh peach are). I'll merge it back in a week or so if no further comment emerges. - MPF 10:25, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Trivia/Production Map Inconsistencies
The map showing worldwide peach production is inconsistent with the trivia entry on the three highest peach producers in the U.S. Unless I'm missing something, it's not possible for the NE to be a producer of 20% of the total produced by China if the top three U.S. producersv (none of which are located in the NE) don't make the map. If the top three U.S. producers don't produce greater than 1% of China's total, I'm almost certain that the NE doesn't produce 20%. Given the trivia entry is cited, I've been able to independently corroborate the trivia entry and the fact that the map appears to be original research with no sources, I'm removing the map. NihilisticMystic 19:45, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Nutrients section
This article lacks a Nutrients/medicinal value section like at Guava and Mango. Are peaches worthless from a nutrition standpoint? One would think so reading the article. 5Q5 (talk) 22:25, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
due to its...
Due to its delicious taste and soft texture, in ancient China "peach" was also a slang word for "young bride". haha what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.214.197 (talk) 17:59, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Florida Peaches
Would this be the place to add information about Florida peaches? Or would it need it's own category?Floridapeaches (talk) 23:21, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Growing season
Could someone knowledgeable add a section on typical growing seasons for peaches? Maybe a map showing when they are harvested or something. Unschool (talk) 05:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Prunus persica
If anyone can add botanical information about prunus persica, please start an actual article, so that it doesn't simply redirect to the food page. Tealwisp (talk) 23:12, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Height of plant
In the introduction, 2 heights are given for the plant. One saying "5-10m" (approx 15-30 feet), and the other one is at the end of the intro saying "small tree, up to 15ft". I think what has happened here is that the editors who added those in are looking at different cultivars of peach and something should be added to say what the height of the most common cultivar is, or to mention that they vary greatly in height depending on cultivar and give some ranges. - Faded_Mantis (Talk) 13:42, 6 April 2009 (NZST) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.90.9.244 (talk)
Reference China
Although its botanical name Prunus persica suggests the peach is native to Persia, peaches actually originated in China where they have been cultivated since the early days of Chinese culture. Peaches were mentioned in Chinese writings as far back as the tenth century BC and were a favoured fruit of kings and emperors [Citation needed] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.113.143 (talk • contribs) 01:07, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
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Nectarine question
Fifty years ago, I think I remember that nectarines would become somewhat soft and sweet, more or less like an ordinary peach. Am I misremembering? Nowadays they stay hard and tart for a long time, then go straight to rotten.Tldoran (talk) 23:55, 1 August 2010 (UTC)