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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 178.192.72.159 (talk) at 21:25, 7 July 2011 (→Balls to Gunstones: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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POTD June, 10th

Hi Howcheng,

Will you please consider to use this image as POTD for June 10th? That will be the national day for Portugal and the theme seems appropriate. Best wishes, Alvesgaspar (talk) 08:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done! howcheng {chat} 16:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Alvesgaspar (talk) 18:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/May 14

Hi - what's the criteria for deciding what appears in Selected Anniversaries? I would argue that the Talyllyn article should appear, at least this year, as 1) it's a FA, and 2) It's the sixtieth anniversary, a more significant number, and will be marked by events at the railway itself [1]. I do admit to a COI here, as I've been heavily involved with the article, but I would say it's more deserving of a place than (say) Lina Medina, which doesn't even have GA rating. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 17:31, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that -- in your edit summary you said the 60th anniversary was 2012, so I thought I'd just save it for next year. I like to rotate as many articles as possible from year to year, so by keeping Talyllyn off this year, I wouldn't have to move it off next year (I hope that made sense). I didn't even look at the year in the actual blurb. I'll put it back in. howcheng {chat} 20:53, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My bad - when I put it on the page I had a mental block and though the date referred to 1952 not 1951. Thanks for that. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 21:04, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Picture of the day for 14 May

Hello! I noticed that no image was scheduled for today (causing yesterday's to remain on the main page, accompanied by advice to check back later for today's), so I went ahead and selected this one (promoted around the same time as yesterday's). After doing so, I noticed that another mushroom photograph was used a few days ago, but when I went back and checked several other promoted images from that page, all of them already had been scheduled. So I decided that it was better to proceed with this one than to allow more time to pass. I hope that this is acceptable. —David Levy 02:00, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes, I just noticed this. I'll try to find a replacement image. —David Levy 02:07, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I swapped it out for File:Pilatus Agusta A109 Flug.jpg, which was promoted the following month. —David Levy 02:27, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for covering. I don't know where my head was today. howcheng {chat} 08:35, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. I hope that I didn't stray too far from the standard procedure.  :) —David Levy 08:40, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tuskegee Airman pic

Brilliant! Too bad this didn't run in February.

Georgejdorner (talk) 14:04, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Forthcoming OTD candidate

Copied from user talk:Zzyzx11, who directed me to you
I asked a while ago at Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries about the possible appearance of the Hawkhurst Branch Line article (a GA) on OTD on one of three days. Either June 10, 11 or 12, as the 50th anniversary of last service train / last passenger train / date of closure. Art la Pella suggested that I ask you about this one. Is WP:OTD listing criteria #3 compulsory? It seems a bit of an overkill to list the article against all 3 dates - it says should, not must, so maybe WP:IAR can be applied. I'm not trying to get this as a regular candidate for inclusion in subsequent years. Although pre-Beeching, there are many lines that closed during the Beeching Axe, and their 50th anniversary will be approaching in years to come. How do I get this one on OTD? Mjroots (talk) 18:49, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, this doesn't look like a very good candidate. It's definitely well-written and researched, but the subject is a relatively unimportant branch line that didn't have any particular historical impact. If I saw it listed on June 12, I would remove it, for example. The only way I see it making an appearance on OTD is if we're desperate for candidates that day, which happens occasionally due to article quality issues and whatnot. Even if I were to list it, it would likely be subject to complaints on Talk:Main Page and get removed by someone else. As an example, see Ney v. Landmark Education Corporation and Werner Erhard, which appeared on February 2 because we had no other available items, but promptly got removed as soon as one of the backup items became eligible again. howcheng {chat} 19:35, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As we've got a possible 3-day span, is there somewhere that this can be discussed by other editors a bit nearer the time. We don't yet know what other articles will be put forward, and it may be that there could be room for the article on one of the three days. OK, the line wasn't as significant as the Kent and East Sussex Railway, which also closed (to freight) as of 12 June 1961, but the Hawkhurst line is the better article of the two. Mjroots (talk) 21:24, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I see you already posted at WT:OTD with no responses, but that would be the logical place to go (sorry, I think a lot of people are apathetic about OTD). I've been doing most of the updates over the last six months, with other people stepping in here and there, but I wouldn't say I'm the last word on it. My reply above is based on my experience with other articles of lesser importance having been included. My advice would be for you add it to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/June 12 and then when the time comes, I or someone else will evaluate all the available choices to make the more-or-less final list (of course, nothing's ever "final" here). HTH. howcheng {chat} 21:36, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A Great Jubilee Day 1783

You removed this from the events list for May 26 on May 25 citing did not qualify (WP:DOY). While this event is one of the earliest documented celebrations of the end of fighting in the American Revolution, the town of Trumbull, in one form or another, has held annual celebrations on the last Monday in May since time out of mind (1783). During the last century or so since Memorial Day has become an official holiday, town ceremonies (prayer services) are held at various monuments dedicated to those town residents that made the ultimate sacrifice in war. The town has monuments to French & Indian War, Revolution, Civil War, WWI & WWII and Vietnam. This year services will take place at the Vietnam War Memorial with the annual Memorial Day Parade down Main Street to follow. Trumbull has shown great pride in its Colonial roots and to those who made the ultimate sacrifice in war. They are already making plans to commemorate the 230th anniversary of A Great Jubilee Day in May 2013. Please do not remove this from the event list as I believe it meets the criteria under;

"Holidays and observances"- Holidays and observances, if notable enough for inclusion, should be the subject of a Wikipedia article (or in the case of religious feasts, mentioned in a linked article). These entries should also be limited to those events that occur on the same date annually and to observances that are currently celebrated (not the date it was once celebrated or will be celebrated).

A Great Jubilee Day has its own wiki article and is also listed on the Memorial Day page. I will create a page for Reverend Beebe, its initial planner/organizer, when I have time. Reverend Beebe has much information documented by the Fairfield County Connecticut Historical Society now known as the Fairfield Museum and History Center. A Great Jubilee Day was not just a one-time celebration held in Trumbull, Connecticut on the last Monday in May 1783, but rather was held annually, in one form or another, and now its celebrated as a part of Memorial Day on the last Monday in May.Tomticker5 (talk) 12:46, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see where the confusion lies: the "Holidays and observances" criteria apply specifically to the section named that, e.g. May 26#Holidays and observances, not to the items listed in the Events section. Instead, I cite WP:DOY#What is not notable or not considered an Event: "Dates of festivals (national, local, global) – this is a yearly occasion, not a one-time event". Sorry. howcheng {chat} 15:56, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Key templates for POTD

Hi Howcheng. I am currently in the process of coding Today's featured list (done) and Today's featured sound. For the latter, I want to use the same basic mechanisms as used by POTD. Can you point me to the key templates being used for POTD? Thanks. — Edokter (talk) — 13:29, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the late reply. {{POTD default}} is the userpage version, and {{POTD row}} is the one for the Main Page. Each of the daily POTD templates (e.g., {{POTD/2011-06-03}}) calls the default one, but you can pass a parameter in to specify a specific template (see details at Wikipedia:Picture of the day#Including the POTD on your user page). HTH. howcheng {chat} 22:11, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 6 June 2011

FP question

Hi. I saw this edit you made, and I'm a bit confused. According to Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Carpenter ant Tanzania, it was promoted, although it appears none of the normal closing procedure was followed. Unless I'm missing something, it actually is an FP. I'll hold off on adding the tag, etc. for now, but if it looks okay, I'll make all the fixes. Thanks. Makeemlighter (talk) 03:21, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I was confused because the image description page was linked to the first nomination, where it did not pass because it did not have a quorum. I'll evert. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 16:06, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A thank you for all your hard work

The Main Page Barnstar
I don't really give out these things but I thought I should make an exception in this case! Please accept this barnstar as a small token of appreciation for all of the hard, thankless work that you do to keep the main page updating day after day. POTD and OTD simply wouldn't work half as well as they do at the moment without you. I don't think many people realise the amount of work that you do keeping all of the myriad of templates accurate and up to date. Thanks again and keep up the hard work. Woody (talk) 17:01, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! howcheng {chat} 17:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 13 June 2011

The Signpost: 20 June 2011

June 21 POTD - Heliograph =

Sorry - didn't see your note until the end of the day, but I polished the description anyway. The original description was not far off the mark in any event. The instrument at the left resembles a Mark IV Mance heliograph in that the aiming arm is jointed and can be (as seen here) stowed (which of course means it was not being operated at the time of the photo). The instrument behind it is a lamp, likely for night signaling, probably using an oxygen cylinder and a hydrogen or acetylene cylinder - a similar unit is the cover photo of the October 26, 1912 issue of Scientific American, with some discussion of the device on page 346. Macchess (talk) 05:49, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

POTD list

Howcheng, non-admins are given virtually no opportunity to edit the blurb at the moment. I've made an edit to tomorrow's: I hope it is transferred over to the protected version. Can the blurbs be put up for community input at least 24 hours ahead of cascade protection, please? Tony (talk) 08:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Further to the above, Tony has now started an RfC here to measure support for a proposal that blurbs for the three featured-content sections on the main page be posted for community input at least 24 hours ahead of the deadline for cascade-protection. As he appears to have forgotten to notify you, here we go. Regards, BencherliteTalk 13:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ideally that should be the case, but my schedule often doesn't allow me to get them done that far in advance. howcheng {chat} 15:53, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Time for a delegate, as Raul has arranged? (Disclaimer: I'm not suggesting myself.) Tony (talk) 06:44, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

POTD request

I left a request on the POTD talk page for my picture with caption to be run. Just reaching out! TCO (talk) 05:46, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

June 25th picnic

Hi Howard,

Quick question, I plan on bringing dessert, but should I bring enough in case the possibles show up as well? 

                                       Thanks,
                                       Simple0981

Posted: 6/23/11 at 10:32pm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.5.5.156 (talk) 05:32, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm thinking of postponing the picnic. At this point, there's too few people. howcheng {chat} 06:29, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. Maybe put the word out on Facebook and give people enough notice...say 1.5 to 2 weeks? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simple0981 (talk • contribs) 16:19, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We are on for today! Hopefully you get this message in time. howcheng {chat} 16:38, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wiknic Followups

Wiknic Followups

Hi:

I had a great time yesterday and I was wondering if you or another editor was going to have a followup section for attendees to comment.

SmithGoldBug (talk) 19:54, 26 June 2011 (UTC) SmithGoldBug[reply]

I wasn't particularly planning to, but you can always add it yourself. howcheng {chat} 17:17, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ping

I emailed you. Tony (talk) 05:35, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jay Wile

I understand that you deleted this page, why? StarvyMessi (talk) 13:37, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jay Wile. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 16:43, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 27 June 2011

please run this as POTD

Map of North America showing the subspecies' specific ranges in different colors

TCO (talk) 04:10, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Risker?

[2] do you perhaps mean Resolute? Risker has commented on the 'fuck' thing but not that reduce TFA blurb proposal AFAICT Nil Einne (talk) 15:15, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 4 July 2011

Re: July OTD observances

My updates to July OTD observances are best described as targets of opportunity spotted while installing the code for the staging area. Before hitting the save button I am in the habit of previewing the updated page to help find formatting problems such as extraneous starts to comments, templates embedded in the middle of blurbs, and various other editing oddities that have accumulated over time. As a result, the small number of observance updates I have made have been only loosely coordinated and are likely to have missed some important events.

As for Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/Holidays and observances, I see the usefulness of such a page but am not sure I want to volunteer for it. One possible use for such a page is as an input file for a bot that performs the observances updates. Before putting too much work into building the page, it might be worth placing a note at Wikipedia:Bot requests to see if a bot writer might be interested in the job of automating the observance updates. The needs of the bot is likely to restrict the formatting options used for a page such as this. --Allen3 talk 17:43, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Balls to Gunstones

In the preceding lines Henry says, referring to the Dauphin of France, who sent Henry tennis balls as a commentary on Henry's misspent youth: "...And tell the present prince this mock of his Hath turn'd his balls to gun-stones, and his soul Shall stand sore charged for the wasteful vengeance That shall fly with them... "

The change in the meaning of mock is associative and inventive rather than in playing with two strict denotations of the word mock (of course, for Shakespeare, in the absence of dictionaries, 'strict denotation' doesn't mean much) Mock, according to CT Onions, in A Shakespeare Glossary, carries meanings which suggest setting the value of something to zero, which is apposite here. 178.192.72.159 (talk) 21:24, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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