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I see lot of external links and removed them. What do people think about this one? http://www.medmerits.com/index.php/center/parkinsonism_center Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:13, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An "information", "news" and "community" website that is not maintained by a large representative or professional organisation. Buys its content elsewhere. Ticks my boxes as being unsuitable. JFW | T@lk 12:39, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Although I'm not sure not sure if MedMerits would be of interest to Wikipedia readers, I can tell you that it is used by just about every neurology resident in the US.

. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.232.245 (talk) 20:43, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Linking of lung

Do people think the linking of lung such as in these edits [1] is over linking? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:18, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That was part of a pattern of edits to change an already existing link such as "Part of body" to the new destination "Human part of body", which have been showing up on my watchlist for some time. In the case of Human lung, the article was spun off in February 2004, so it's nothing new. I suspect that Nono64 (talk · contribs) is gnomishly working through 'What links here' for body parts and changing links to the 'Human' prefixed article where appropriate - but he makes the odd mistake, since DCS for example applies to animals as well as humans (goats were used to test early decompression schedules).
Nevertheless, James' question is pertinent. We do seem to link to Foot and Mouth and other well-known parts of the body in many articles. We have no specific project guidance on linking to parts of the body, but I'd recommend the logic behind the phrase should not be linked unless their content is germane (relevant and appropriate) and topical to the subject as found in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (linking)#Chronological items which governs the linking of dates (and took an Arbitration case to sort out). I personally think that common body parts are linked far too often in articles, without any pretence of being germane, and I'd have no qualms in supporting any project members who took an axe to such links. It may be sensible to hear what others think though, before embarking on any crusades. --RexxS (talk) 01:24, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, this editing pattern has been going on for a long time with this particular editor. Please see: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive674#Mass link moving from Brain to Human brain by User:Nono64. At this point, Nono64 has been warned to be careful about such edits, sufficiently that the recent continuation may be sanctionable. When there is editorial concensus that a given link is not specifically about the human version, it gets to be disruptive to put other editors in the position of having to go back and do a massive clean up. --Tryptofish (talk) 14:19, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is indeed a long-term well-meaning but now clearly disruptive pattern, and I would support an immediate (though short) block to stop it if it happens again. The carelessness (whether it's mindless human-acting-as-a-bot or actual selective editing) is high and the editor has been well warned about it. DMacks (talk) 19:59, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pubmed Health

I remember reading someone that the US government pay Google to be ranked first for Pubmed Health? Does anyone know if this is true? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:05, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think it was alleged on a blog after Pubmed Health suddenly started getting a top google search rank. Given the culture, it seems unlikely, however. See this: NLM to Google: Please Ignore Us ... SEO Not! FiachraByrne (talk) 09:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Google says that they do not accept payment from anybody for any rankings. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:05, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Although they sell "Sponsored Links" that show up at the top and right of the results page (unless you have an ad-blocker). --RexxS (talk) 01:24, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article currently reads "A healthcare provider is obliged to know the medical guidelines of his or her profession, and has to decide whether or not to follow the recommendations of a guideline for an individual treatment". Is anyone aware of countries/treatments/situations where the provider is required to follow a guideline? I'd guess that happens sometimes/somewhere. Thanks. Jesanj (talk) 14:13, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If the practitioner is required to follow the "guideline", then it isn't a guideline. It's a policy or protocol. Axl ¤ [Talk] 21:08, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Questionable edit

This isn't (to me) obviously vandalism, but it seems likely to be such. If it's complete nonsense, would someone remove it? Thanks. --Tardis (talk) 21:49, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted. Even if it isn't entirely vandalism, it certainly has to be rewritten and other content needs to be added before we can readd it. NW (Talk) 21:54, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone look over EHF – therapy aka "millimeter wave therapy"? Discussion was started at FTN. - LuckyLouie (talk) 22:26, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:REDFLAG would seem to apply here. This also applies, it seems. Needs to be stripped down and rewritten. Yobol (talk) 22:29, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Found a mention of this at WP:FTN - the editor there is concerned that although it says that 'modern medicine' says consumption of mercury it toxic, the article still suggests it can be beneficial and safe. Dougweller (talk) 13:20, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Its claims have been solidly unsourced for three years. I've nominated it for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rasa shastra. Comments welcome. --RexxS (talk) 13:50, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

SafetyLit Database

The SafetyLit database article has been greatly expanded recently. It is currently rated by ProjectMedicine as stub. I wonder if it it time for it to be reassessed. Allow me to also request comments about or edits to the article. I am responsible for the SafetyLit project and would be pleased for any suggestions or comments about SafetyLit itself. How might it be made more useful to you? (SafetyLit is a free weekly literature update service and database of articles relevant to injury prevention and safety promotion. SafetyLit, presented without advertising, is a project of San Diego State University in cooperation with the World Health Organization. Medicine is only one of the 30-plus professional disciplines that publish relevant information. SafetyLit indexes articles from more than 11,000 scholarly journals.) - David Lawrence, Ph.D.; San Diego State University 19:44, 30 August 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidl53 (talkcontribs)

Origin of the Azeris DRN thread

Hi everyone, I was wondering whether I could take your advice. There is a thread at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Origin of the Azeris about the genetic origin of the Azeri people, and being the lowly musician/linguist that I am, I have no idea who is right or what the most reliable sources are. I would be very grateful if somebody could take a look at the noticeboard thread and the article talk page and point us in the right direction. All the best. — Mr. Stradivarius 13:37, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A re-write and a few new articles... looking for more eyeballs

I re-wrote atypical ductal hyperplasia. That said, I think it could use a few more eyes.

I have also created articles for the super obscure cystic tumour of the atrioventricular nodal region and the more common entities of villitis of unknown etiology, and fetal thrombotic vasculopathy. Nephron  T|C 04:05, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]