User talk:RashersTierney

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passport

At Irish passport you appear to be objecting only to one or two edits, yet you reverted all of the edits. Please rectify this by restoring the other edits. Mooretwin (talk) 01:31, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

If you make consecutive edits apparently to hide your POV push then a revert is a reasonable response. Your disruptive editing over misapplication of IMOS on several articles is on the point of referral to ANI. Your decision. RashersTierney (talk) 01:39, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Sean Connery

Did you even look at the article for the show he's an avid fan of? How could anyone hate Normandy Park? I don't think we need a direct quote here. SEGATime2 (talk) 22:43, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

If Connery made the statement you claim, it should be easy enough to provide a reliable reference. What's the difficulty with that? RashersTierney (talk) 22:50, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Gotcha... SEGATime2 (talk) 23:07, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi, just a few words

I hope you are doing fine. I just wanted to let you know about what is going on and what will happen next. I just resigned on March 21st of the Amical association because after the last attacks the Association suffered, its people are not able to decide what to do and do not seem to be willing or able to think in terms of counterattack... You will know more about it if you check the Movement Roles page probably this night or tomorrow morning. Sorry to act so harshly but I can't stand such actions, the general hypocrisy and the petty and personal interests... Take care, again I wish you and Ireland (I hope the economy and the situation has improved there...) all the best! Claudi/Capsot (talk) 08:00, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help from Sister_Linda

I reviewed what I posted yesterday and agree with you totally. I will source and reference and clean up my input.

My primary concern was that you can not search the word "Taw" on Wikipedia and find that it is the commom word (in the USA) for a Hopscotch marker. The firm I listed as making taw's is long out of business. But my source was the first reference to the word taw that I could find. I do not knwo who invented the the idea or word Taw but I will continue to research this aspect of the USA entromprial spirit often tries to turn a free fun game into somethign for profit.

I am new to this, but I am excited to share various aspects of game culture and learning with others through this formate. T

Thanks again for you input

Sister Linda (talk) 16:58, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

No problem, welcome aboard. I'll add a few links at your Talk Page that should be of help. RashersTierney (talk) 18:56, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

John Rocha

I'm afraid I think it is certainly vandalism, since fact is being replaced with fiction and this has been pointed out repeatedly and in depth. Please refer to the Talk Page on John Rocha if you wish. Qwerta369 (talk) 13:17, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I already have. And to your Talk Page, since deleted by you, and to the attempt to resolve this issue by mediation. Edit warring is not the way to go on this issue and will only lead to you getting another block, as you should realise. Misuse of Twinkle can also lead to revocation of that facility. RashersTierney (talk) 13:30, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Well then, respectfully, you should see that Rocha is not Irish, no? One doesn't gain a nationality simply by living in a country for a long time. I don't quite fathom why this is so hard for people to comprehend. Qwerta369 (talk) 13:58, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

A wikipedia contributor also does not ignore multiple references and deletes them because he doesn't agree with it, whilst tagging it as vandalism. Please don't continue with this one man/woman mission after mediation didn't support you and three other editors don't either. References are references... does exactly what it says on the tin --NorthernCounties (talk) 14:10, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry to tell you, but you're quite wrong. I don't have any agenda and I do not delete references because I do not agree with them. You call them references, but none of those in question refer to Rocha to be an Irish citizen and if they did they would be incorrect since Rocha has at no point naturalised as so. Please do not attempt to bully me. Qwerta369 (talk) 14:19, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm not bullying you. I can't see why you don't let it be. Partaking in edit warring only serves to invalidate even the best of arguements. Validation is also not needed when multiple articles, websites or whatever else you care to call references confirm it. --NorthernCounties (talk) 14:26, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Nationality is about more that citizenship, which is a straightforward legal status. This was pointed out at the mediation page, and was not disputed there. Sources that are generally considered reliable have ascribed Irish nationality to Rocha. It does not preclude him having other 'identities' . I really don't understand this single-minded determination to do battle over a question of 'apples and oranges'. By the way, why is this discussion hapenning here and not at the mediation page? RashersTierney (talk) 14:30, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Because the mediation had come to a close, and an other editor not involved thought it was time to remove the validation needed tag. This sparked the edit war to begin. Thank you for injecting some sense into this, and sorry to clog up your personal talk page. Finally, there is definitely no need for further discussion and/or mediation. --NorthernCounties (talk) 14:37, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that is your call to make, NorthernCounties. If Wikipedia is a credible encyclopaedia, it cannot contain untrue statements. In reply to RashersTierney, Irish nationality has not been awarded to John Rocha. He is not an Irish national and has never claimed to be. Rocha is resident in the state of Ireland and is eligible to apply for Irish nationality based on his length of residence in Ireland and/or on his marriage to an Irish national, but until an application is made and is subsequently granted, John Rocha is not and does not claim to be an Irish national. Qwerta369 (talk) 14:51, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

John Rocha's birthplace

Hello Rashers. Your most recent edit adds that Rocha was 'British-born'. This is contradicted by his own web site at http://www.johnrocha.ie, which says that he was born in Hong Kong. See the bottom line of the home page: "John Rocha is a Hong Kong born designer based in Ireland." Please fix this. The edit warring case is still open as of this moment and all parties should be careful. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 02:37, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Please take it up at the relevant Talk Page. That's the usual practice.The mess that currently applies at that article has been the result of others' 'collaboration'. My only input, as you should be aware, was a single revert of an edit misconstrued as vandalism, in order to halt an edit war. RashersTierney (talk) 08:34, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Linking etc

It's pretty standard to not link the country, compare the FA-class Slayer, The Beatles, Nirvana (band), Metallica etc. It's not universally done so I won't get too hung up about it, but I can't really see the purpose of having Ireland linked; someone wanting to find out more about the area where Thin Lizzy formed are far more likely to click on Dublin, and in any case that links to Republic of Ireland. But like I said it's such a stupid thing that I don't really want to get into a pointless edit war over it. Cheers, doomgaze (talk) 00:17, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I understand where you're coming from but think the pipelink at the infobox is useful due to the 'Ireland' ambiguity issue. The two consecutive reverts without discussion was a bit crass on my part. Apologies. RashersTierney (talk) 00:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey no worries. I see your point too, perhaps we could change it to 'Dublin, Republic of Ireland'? doomgaze (talk) 17:15, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Not as simple as it might first appear. This specific issue regarding the name of the Irish state has been debated ad nauseam and for years here. Aspects were even the subject of an ArbCom decision. The current practice re the name of the state in articles is provided here at IMOS. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. RashersTierney (talk) 17:38, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh dear lord, this is almost like the whole en dash and em dash situation, better leave it as it is. I see the article is a good article nominee, I guess should the person reviewing it have a problem with the infobox then it can always be changed then. Cheers for that link, I wasn't aware of any issues regarding Ireland vs Republic of Ireland, I'll keep an eye out should I have to use either. doomgaze (talk) 17:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

No prob. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 17:51, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

left you a request

I went ahead and changed the first sentence, in line with reasoning I outlined on the talk page of Roma in Hungary. Can you please change the title of the article to "Hungarian Roma" in line with the reasoning I express in the same place? I don't know how to do that. THanks. 188.157.230.192 (talk) 11:43, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice, I will just continue to edit that article. It would be useful if you could help rename it. 188.157.230.192 (talk) 11:59, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Replied at Talk:Roma in Hungary. Lets keep the discussion in one place shall we, and see what, if anything, others have to say. RashersTierney (talk) 12:03, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

List of museums in the Republic of Ireland

Hi! I don´t know "Province" and "Region" for "Kerry Bog Village Museum" in the List of museums in the Republic of Ireland, could you possibly complete the entry? --YvonneM (talk) 00:38, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi you too YvonneM. I don't know either at this God-forsaken-hour, but I'll take a look in the morning. Keep up the good work. RashersTierney (talk) 00:47, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Done. I'm assuming it's of the same pattern as the next entry in the table - 'Kerry County Museum' - namely 'Province' = 'Munster' and 'Region' = 'South-West' pipelinked to 'NUTS 3 statistical regions of the Republic of Ireland' (as are all the entries in this field afaict). RashersTierney (talk) 07:17, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Mmm! I've changed the pipe to 'South-West Region, Ireland' as it seems more directly relevant. RashersTierney (talk) 07:26, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Great! Thanks! --YvonneM (talk) 10:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Sarah's block

I will always defend my friend. My only problem with this right now is that I feel that (my perceived) guilt by association is going to cloud the thoughts of people I otherwise am willing to listen to. I get the sense that lately several comments about being a "follower" and "clueless" are directed my way. I am friendly with the woman, she does not inform my thinking any more than I inform hers, however. There is a lot to be said for reading is all I can say to those who don't get that. I offer support in return to you for taking up the argument against Cailil. Best, Sswonk (talk) 03:53, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't let it get you down. I'd like to see Sarah back too, but she also needs to stop poking bears with a stick. Some of them are 'packing'. RashersTierney (talk) 09:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

hi

I am ip 90.20.blah blah, I just wasn't logged in sorry ;) JTBX (talk) 12:23, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

No prob. My revert was marginal anyway. If you feel strongly and really think it adds, it won't become a major issue. RashersTierney (talk) 12:58, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

A source? Stop vandalism

A reliable source about the Greek creating of this language. Stop vandalism. One of your recent contributions has been reverted or removed, because it contains speculative or unconfirmed information.Add only material based on a reference to a reliable source. —Preceding unsigned—Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.64.35.23 (talk • contribs) 00:25, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Give it a rest Plouton2 RashersTierney (talk) 01:14, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I got a similarly bizarre message, do you know what this is about Rashers? Akerbeltz (talk) 01:24, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Its about a sockmaster using rapidly changing IPs who feels immune to his block. Nothing particularly complicated, just a matter of time and perseverance. RashersTierney (talk) 01:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Ah ok thanks, I thought for a moment I had slipped and edited an article I don't recall. Akerbeltz (talk) 01:58, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

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A reliable source about the Greek creating of this language. Stop vandalism. One of your recent contributions has been reverted or removed, because it contains speculative or unconfirmed information.Add only material based on a reference to a reliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.64.35.23 (talk) 10:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

STOP VANDALSISM OR PUT A reliable source

A reliable source about the Greek creating of this language. Stop vandalism. One of your recent contributions has been reverted or removed, because it contains speculative or unconfirmed information.Add only material based on a reference to a reliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.64.35.23 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC).

(It) Must be crazy.

I THINK , first You must learn the English language cause as I can see maybe your mother has covered It at all, Second,Correct the Didymus status of your mess cow-dialect which You putted It to public twice as

Germany
Romania
Russia
etc  the same again ,for seeing much more... poor stupid absurdity,and surely,finally of course dont wait to to sign this message for the favourof nobody...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.130.89.1 (talk) 17:11, 16 May 2011 (UTC) 

(I T) must be crazy?

I THINK , first You must learn the English language cause as I can see maybe your mother has covered It at all, Second,Correct the Didymus status of your mess cow-dialect which You putted It to public twice as GermanyRomaniaetc the same again ,for seeing much more... poor stupid absurdity,and surely,finally of course dont wait to to sign this message for the favour of nobody...I wrote It twice too because of You —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.130.89.1 (talk) 17:15, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It always amuses me when an IP appears and starts insulting people for the quality of the prose when they use made-up words like 'putted' and Put capitals In the middle of sentences. GedUK  21:15, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea what's intended, but the several instances of 'your mother' make me doubt its laudatory! RashersTierney (talk) 21:30, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Turn out the lights, the party's over

“ I seeing you edit made like between breasts, and you understand English, not always. With the caveat that you propose to the fellow with a giraffe until your tongue is pure.(fact) of the dog. I just have dealingWith other languid mother. ”

Happy Monday, from a fan of the "big rag-head": Sswonk (talk) 01:17, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

I know,I know, I know. but it ain't over. RashersTierney (talk) 00:12, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

On Romani people and Athinganoi

disproportionate - broke flow of text - covered at Names of the Romani people, - perhaps could be expanded there

I don't think it's disproportionate; if it were only for Greek etymology, the present text would perhaps be enough.But it also makes sense for the name in many other languages.Greek has both Egyptians and Athinganoi for this people(this is circular and obvious of course cause Greek seems to the origin of both the names).But other languages have predominantly only either one (like english -> gypsies and german -> zigeuner).And it would be helpful for people to know. I don't think that being covered at Names of the Romani people (which in fact isn't fully covered there;what is more covered there is the history of the heresy-cult that initially had the name and so on) suffices.

What I do I agree with is that it indeed breaks the flow and that therefore it should be expanded there or somewhere else in the text by someone better in expressing himself in English than me. Anyway that's my opinion. Will copy this at the article's talk page and let the crowd decide. :)

Thanatos|talk 19:05, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

No prob. Happy to discuss it further there. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 19:11, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Email

Just sent you one. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 03:14, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Received. Many thanks for responding. RashersTierney (talk) 09:37, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

AAIU

Thank you so much in taking a photo of the AAIU head office! WhisperToMe (talk) 04:39, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Too late for Commons Picture of the Year, but I hope you find it fit for purpose. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 08:20, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Alaa Baky

One of the first of her kind to reside in Kiloole. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.78.3.78 (talk) 13:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

hi

just wondering why my piece on 'alaa baky' keeps being removed from the kilcoole page?she is an actress who currently resides there and i know because i live there also.many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.78.3.78 (talk) 13:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

If you click on the link verifiability, either here or on your Talk Page, you will see that it is not enough for something to be true in order to be included in Wikipedia. Even a reference in a local newspaper may be sufficient for the purpose required, but please do not continue to post without some corroboration from a reliable source (ie not self-published, blogs or social network sites). RashersTierney (talk) 13:26, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

British nationality law and the Republic of Ireland

I have raised a query about the above on its talk page....I conclude I will need to do research! But I am all ears if you already know the answer... Hope you will chip your bit in. 84.203.70.133 (talk) 22:40, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Replies at Talk:British nationality law and the Republic of Ireland‎. RashersTierney (talk) 00:47, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Scotch

In editing the article on Scotch-Irish, I mentioned that Scots find the use of "scotch" pejorative, referencing a wiki article as the source. Which in turn referenced it's source. If one article is acceptable, surely the other is too.

Galbraith's use of the term Scotch is revealing in demonstrating the usage of a Canadian speaking about his own community; and certainly his use of the term is not pejorative. This is an example of how older uses of words and forms continue in communities of expatriates broken off from their original roots, in this case in the 18th century when 'Scotch' was the prevailing term. Similarly, the Scots who settled in Ulster, many of whom later emigrated, are known non-pejoratively in North America as the Scotch-Irish. It was the native Scots who rejected the usage of "Scotch" which had been adopted from England after the 1707 Act of Union. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.33.235.65 (talk) 19:01, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

The reference you added has no bearing whatever on the immediately preceding text, and was tagged accordingly. RashersTierney (talk) 03:26, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Irish neutrality during World War II

Rashers, in the section you started "Reunification in return for joining the war" I think you have confused the Random House edition that you cited with the other 2 that were actually cited in the article; see my comments.Red Hurley (talk) 10:20, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Quick response. I think the difference in interpretation hangs on whether there was an unambiguous offer to end partition from London to Dublin, over the head of Craig, in return for joining the Allies, or an offer to discuss the matter. Churchill in particular had always been adamant that 'Ulster' would not be coerced into a union with the south against its wishes. Perhaps he did momentarily reverse this policy position, but the reaction of the Dublin government indicates that they at least did not consider this was the case, nor do Churchill's own memoirs support this line of thinking. I'll review the sources again when I get a chance. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 10:59, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Certainly they all kept quiet about it afterwards, but Dev required the British commitment in the first draft to be altered to a "solemn undertaking", a term with significance in international law; it was then altered; then he decided not to continue. Technically there was an offer with terms (by GB), counteroffer (by Dev), acceptance (by GB) and rejection (by Dev) - preliminary negotiations which came to nothing but amounted to something more than a suggestion to discuss the matter. Best,Red Hurley (talk) 06:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Congrats

You really are into the Wiki-groove, ain't you? Sarah777 (talk) 20:28, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Anything but. You'll have to spit it out Sarah, haven't been following things here much lately. RashersTierney (talk) 23:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: Irish people

Yes, a nation as in a group of people that share a common language, race, descent or history. Members of the Irish nation live in a number of sovereign states around the world, and the state is what the nationality field in the infobox is referring to. It would be linked to either Irish Free State or Republic of Ireland, but, of course, de Valera's life straddled both, so it can't. JonChapple^Talk 15:56, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

User:Ltbuni's deletions on Agnes Heller

Dear RT: As you have intervened on User:Ltbuni's editing in the Roma case, perhaps you wouldn't mind looking at his editing on the portion of the Agnes Heller as discussed on Talk:Ágnes Heller. Many thanks, Stevan Harnad 13:15, 10 August 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harnad (talk • contribs)

Autopatrolled

Hi RashersTierney, just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled right to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! FASTILY ^(TALK) 20:14, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks Fastily. See you around! RashersTierney (talk) 21:22, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Poll on ArbCom resolution - Ireland article names

There is a poll taking place here on whether or not to extend the ArbCombinding resolution, which says there may be no page move discussions for Ireland, Republic of Ireland or Ireland (disambiguation), for a further two years. Fmph (talk) 20:35, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

linking dates

Thanks for undoing whatever I must have done on my visit to William Bower(artist). I was linked there in an article on citations, but don't remember doing anything. Thanks for catching it. Mlane (talk) 17:58, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

No prob. This was the edit linking dates that I reverted. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 20:30, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Aircraft Accident Investigation Board

RashersTierney,

Article: Aircraft Accident Investigation Board

It only has one "source/reference" and I also put "ref improve". I've seen so many two/three line sentences that doesn't give much details and have asked myself why do these people do not do a reasonable job at writing the article for Wikipedia. For example like a couple of thousand bytes, an Infobox, more than one reference/source? Just to make it a worthwhile read. Adamdaley (talk) 03:22, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

A two or three line stub still has value. No-one expects those lines to be the last word on the subject. The purpose of maintenance tags is not to state the obvious, still less to reprimand the initiating editors a la school report: "Little Joey must apply himself harder if he is not to fall behind in the next semester!" If you think a stub can be easily improved, do it; much better than overwhelming it with banner criticisms! Best. RashersTierney (talk) 11:15, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

COI Tag

Hello RashersTierney, Drmies re-applied the tag that Northamerica1000 has removed. The tag says that "a major contributor" which refers to me, however, the article has been cleaned out and all my contributions AND MORE has been removed. I do not intend on contributing to the article anymore so do you see any reason for the tag to be there? It clearly shows that the article is completely neutral (that's why Northamerica1000 removed the tag) and I'm no longer a contributor to the article. I hope you agree. Please let me know. Best Regards, Puregoldxxxx (talk) 19:04, 7 October 2011 (UTC).

The passing of a little time won't hurt here. COI is not a trivial matter, but if the article remains stable for some time without the issue arising again I'll revisit with a view to removal, {so long as there is a reasonable indication of consensus for same). RashersTierney (talk) 13:52, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much. It's just that I don't think (I'm sure you do too) the COI is justified. Regards, Puregoldxxxx (talk) 14:35, 8 October 2011 (UTC).

New topic

Thank you very much for your advice about the Streatham and Clapham High school page. I have now inserted an edit summary, as you suggested, and thank you for reversing the vandalism. L.Hammerlit — Preceding unsigned comment added by L.hammerlit (talk • contribs) 08:10, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

No problem. If you need any help, just drop me a line here. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 14:48, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

i got your message

hi and thank you for your message. yes our input was changed and removed, we did use reliable links and sources, guess we didn't do it right. we googled for more information as doing a project and noticed we had more research and more information than on the site hence we tried to add to your page. we won't try again. but since your the pro if you go to the links you will find the info and it might be worthwhile updating as your page is really outdated and the information is not currant. thanks and bye, anne and leah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aneleh*ie (talk • contribs) 22:05, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

If you would like to leave a list of reliable sources on the article Discussion Page, I'll certainly review them, as no doubt will others with a view to updating Workers and Unemployed Action Group. There are no 'pros' here, and I hope you both (individually) contribute to Wikipedia in the future. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 23:22, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

To Rashers

Hi Rashers,

Yes, I'm new to this. Am just trying to clean site up a bit. Have been adding references but haven't learned yet how to make them go into proper list. Have friend who said he'd give me hand.

Sorry that it is taking a while for me to get to grips with it. Meanwhile, have been writing with an eye to as many wiki links as possible.

Hope this gets through to you. Ainenim

To Rashers

Hi Rashers,

Yes, I'm new to this. Am just trying to clean site up a bit. Have been adding references but haven't learned yet how to make them go into proper list. Have friend who said he'd give me hand.

Sorry that it is taking a while for me to get to grips with it. Meanwhile, have been writing with an eye to as many wiki links as possible.

Hope this gets through to you. Ainenim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ainenim (talk • contribs) 21:48, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Ainenim! Yea, it got through fine. I'll do some copy editing on some of the articles you've been working on when I get a chance. Don't be a stranger on this page if I can be of any help. Welcome aboard. RashersTierney (talk) 21:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

To Rashers

Thank you Rashers! I appreciate that!!

As you can see, I've been providing links and am trying to learn how to navigate myself around so that the references will link up and list off properly. Hmmm. I can do this in Word documents ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ainenim (talk • contribs) 22:09, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

You're doing pretty well. It takes a bit of time, but you'll get up to speed soon enough. RashersTierney (talk) 00:08, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Rashers!

Thank you, Rashers! As you can see, I've started to get the hang of the references.

I have made a mistake though. I saw that Balgriffin had no references so I decided to start to lay it out a bit better and add references. I put in one silly one and the system rejected it, reverting back to original. I read that there is a revert/undo mechanism.

Would you be able to undo it for me and take the poor reference out? (I was going to use it as a 'see more' link but that didn't work out, obviously.)

I'd appreciate if you would do that. Hope I'm not breaking rules by being needy...

Thank you again, Ainenim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ainenim (talk • contribs) 00:14, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Ainenim. I've added a Reference section ( with reflist) to the article so that references should now appear when applied. Your addition was removed by a 'bot', (a piece of software that carries out maintenance tasks automatically), so it is essentially 'gone'. Apparently the bot read your attempt to apply a reference as an External link. Do you want it re-applied as a ref? It seems to be a reliable source.

Remember too to sign your posts on discussion pages like this one. If you type four tildes, (the squiggles above #), on the right hand side of your keyboard, your 'User name' and the time you posted will appear like magic when you press 'Show preview' and 'Save page'. Happy to answer any questions if I can. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 01:44, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again, Rashers

It was decent of you to set up the referencing section, thanks very much.

I'll polish Clongriffin and then what I'd really like to do is open up a site for Bayside Bay.

While working on the history section, I realised that not only the international community but also local children who doing school projects quickly land on this site. With that in mind, I'd also like to upgrade and reference the local historical sites.

I had no idea that there is a community of people behind Wikipedia until an hour before I heard from you. Is it rude of me to ask you for some help setting Bayside Bay up?

Thanks again for helping me with the references. I appreciate that, Ainenim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ainenim (talk • contribs) 13:07, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Its not at all rude. Welcome in fact. I'll probably be 'off Wiki' for the weekend, but happy to discuss your proposal early next week. (don't forget about signing 'the 4 squiggles', or the special 'signing button') Best. RashersTierney (talk) 13:17, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

PS

I've added a Reference section ( with reflist) to the article so that references should now appear when applied. Your addition was removed by a 'bot', (a piece of software that carries out maintenance tasks automatically), so it is essentially 'gone'. Apparently the bot read your attempt to apply a reference as an External link. Do you want it re-applied as a ref? It seems to be a reliable source.

Ans: I guess that means that I shouldn't apply references as external links. I think you are referring to DCC-Fr Collins Park site. It showed up in purple. I was trying to make it like the 128 bus connection that someone had put there before me. I can make that a reference, if it isn't gone.

The 'bot' doesn't delete entire pages of work over one small error, does it?

Remember too to sign your posts on discussion pages like this one.

Ans: Thanks for letting me know.

If you type four tildes, (the squiggles above #), on the right hand side of your keyboard, your 'User name' and the time you posted will appear like magic when you press 'Show preview' and 'Save page'.

Happy to answer any questions if I can.

Best. RashersTierney (talk) 01:44, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Ans: Much apprecitated. Ainenim (talk) 13:21, 22 October 2011 (UTC)Ainenim 14:20, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Irish school

That particular template doesn't have a "documentation" page to explain how it's used, so I can see why you're having problems. It's probably best just to click on "What links here" in the Toolbox on the left-hand side of the template page, and have a look at some articles that it's used on to see how it's implemented. Hope this helps, --RFBailey (talk) 17:24, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. That is what I finally did. Some incorporate a school crest. I was wondering if it is an easy fix to include a line for an image of the school itself, as at Template:Infobox school: can a line of code be 'pasted' from one to the other? RashersTierney (talk) 17:33, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Wiki etiquette

Hello again Rashers, As I am very new to Wiki and plan to open a page for Bayside Bay (see above), I wonder if I should be introducing myself ... (to whom I don't know).

As you can see, I updated Clongriffin site, putting considerable time and effort into it with plenty of references. Whoever wrote the original piece, reverted the Amenities & Facilities section to how it was, which was entirely out of date. (For example, Clongriffin no longer has a chemist/pharmacy and since Quinnsworth changed hands, the plans to open a store have been cancelled.)

I don't want to get into petty arguing with someone who I don't even know, especially over entirely subjective details. (It is my understanding that the whole concept behind Wiki is objective information and that history goes into the history section.) It is not my intention to hurt the feelings of those who put time and effort into setting the page up in the first place. I would much prefer to work amicably.

Do you have any comments to make or advice to give? I do not want to tread on the toes of others who spend lots of time on this site.

Thank you again, AinenimAinenim (talk) 14:56, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

PS Wiki Etiquette

PS: Also, my friend who helped me get started on Wiki told me that the previous author has insinuated an editing war. I need to make contact with that person but don't yet know how. Here is the comment

"From SskD13:

"(Sad - after years of careful writing by community, in 4 days this was "dolled up" - 250+ edits, some ok material and some pure marketing - I guess the developers trying again after Priory Hall (user does not know normal conventions). Repairs begin..)""

As you have kindly offered me assistance, would you mind please contacting SskD13 and asking if s/he would please send me a message directly? ainenim

That way, I can respond and introduce myself. I am a resident of Clongriffin and certainly not a developer. I too have pyrite so I know all about the feelings that come with its issues.

Nevertheless, Clongriffin is a new town and is experiencing a huge population boom. With plenty of babies, young children and some teenagers, I have talked with many of the parents of Clongriffin who don't know the neighbourhood so well. Essentially, by writing up the history and pointing out the fact that it is possible to go for plenty of walks. As I said before, I laid out the historical details mostly with children in mind, but also for their parents and teachers.

I need to convey that to the person who is currently putting sections back to how they are, some with incorrect information, etc.

I am entirely grateful for your time and guidance.Ainenim (talk) 16:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Dún Laoghaire photo

Hi RashersTierney,

perhaps you can help here: Talk:Dún_Laoghaire#photo

Looking forward to hearing from you,

--YvonneM (talk) 21:08, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Yvonne. Its a bit outside my usual stomping ground, and bucketing rain at the moment. If no new pics by others and the weather lifts over the next couple of days I'll use it as an excuse to take the bike for a spin. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 10:00, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi RashersTierney, What I see on the news does not look like the perfect weather to take photos ;-) I'll check the photos I took there some time ago, I should have some suitable photos... --YvonneM (talk) 14:11, 25 October 2011 (UTC)