Talk:Shiva

Shiva's Cosmic Dance at CERN

Shiva statue at Cern -European Center for Research in Particle Physics in Geneva
This article could be vastly improved by also including the esoteric Shiva concept beyond the literal .I have reproduced here some content from the physicist Fritjof Capras site .

“ More recently, Fritjof Capra explained that "Modern physics has shown that the rhythm of creation and destruction is not only manifest in the turn of the seasons and in the birth and death of all living creatures, but is also the very essence of inorganic matter," and that "For the modern physicists, then, Shiva's dance is the dance of subatomic matter. ”

“ The parallel between Shiva's dance and the dance of subatomic particles was first discussed by Fritjof Capra in an article titled "The Dance of Shiva: The Hindu View of Matter in the Light of Modern Physics," published in Main Currents in Modern Thought in 1972. Shiva's cosmic dance then became a central metaphor in Capra's international bestseller The Tao of Physics, first published in 1975 and still in print in over 40 editions around the world. ”

Intothefire (talk) 07:15, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

This interpretation will be an WP:UNDUE here, though it would a good addition to Nataraja.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 09:15, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Gender

So, is the bit in the intro in which Shiva is described as "she" supposed to be a troll, or a statement on gender fluidity, or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.235.87 (talk) 23:33, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

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Some references tagged as unreliable from January 2010, disputed statements tagged from January 2010. Unsourced statements tagged from October 2007, April 2010 and December 2009, Tom B (talk) 16:13, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

References added, reworded. Disputed creditability reference/content removed. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:56, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Keep, Tom B (talk) 19:45, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Rather than depending upon British historians, one must refer to the original sources like Sanatan Dharma gurus. Only then a clarity sort of can be achieved. See, I say Sanatan Dharma, because Hindu Dharma doesn't exist. In Sanskrit, a lot of nouns can be used as adjectives also and vice versa. The basic point to be kept in mind is that these names are sort of titles (like Sultan is a title for a muslim king). So, the king of Swarg (Indian equivalent of Heaven) is titled as Indra. The Indra change every four Ages according to Karma theory (No one can live permanently in Heaven). The word Indra means the one who rules. The actual name of Indra may be something else. The creator of all the creation is titled as Brahma. The preserver of all the creation is titled as Vishnu. The destroyer of the creation is titled as Shiva. These three are the physical forms (Moortya swaroop) of The One Supreme God who exists in non-physical form also(Amoortya swaroop), who is also known as SadaShiv/Parbrahma. Its not uncommon in, Sanatan Dharma, for a god to be addressed with a number of adjectives (Just like Mughal Emperor Akbar's name was almost as long as a train due to a number of adjectives used while announcing him). So, it is not uncommon for Indra to be addressed as Shiva or Shiva to be addressed as Indra. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Griffingreat (talk • contribs) 22:21, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Blue Throat

I have removed the lines that The Hari Vanśa Purana, on the other hand, attributes the colour of Shiva's throat to an episode in which Vishnu compels Shiva to fly after taking him by the throat and nearly strangling him. Reason :(1) The episode is not defined :(2) I have not heard of any such episode in any Hindu scriptures. (3)Further, refrence and page reffered can not be seen. If any one wants to re-instate this line : please give further readable references : Becasue never in any Hindu scripture there is an episode of Vishnu taking Shiva by throat. Rather, there are instances of Rama an avtar of Vishnu, worshiping and installing Rameshwaram Jyotirlings. Similarly, there are episode of Vishu taking Mohini form to help Shiva. But never any episode of both of them involved in a fight. All the Hindu scriptures atrribute Shiva's blue throat due to deadly posion Halahala, which no one else but Shiva had the power to hold it within it's throat.R P Jethwa (talk) 08:40, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

If the episode is mentioned in Harivamsa Purana , the there must be many sites mentioning such incident. or Indian re-print of such books, which can be cited as additional reference R P Jethwa (talk) 08:56, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Brahma Kumaris

Brahma Kumar and Brahma Kumaris follow God Shiva. We have 1,000,000 followers and 8,500 centers and give accurate knowledge, also associated with United Nations and many VIPs come. What is problem?

Our WikipediA homepage has many references.

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Please add this information

Please add the information from scholar Gavin Flood's Shiva chapter from The Blackwell Companion to Hinduism, starting from page 200. Thigle (talk) 20:59, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Shiv is preceptor of All humans.Shiv Guru Hai (Shiv shishya pariwar)

We All know about Lord shiva .Shiva has many Rups such as Mahadev,sambhu,shankar,tripurari etc....tese all have own behave and nature .All gods which you know in the World all are belong to God Shiva .It means God shiv is the superb in the world .And also he is Master "Guru" out of the various religious books and started realizing the truth about the need of master "Guru" in life. The SSP family is an initative taken by Shri Harinadranada to spread the light of Shiv Shisyata in universe so that every individual can be benifited to it.For more information (www.shivshishyapariwar.org)and (https://www.facebook.com/groups/globalssp).Here you can find that lord shiva has one role Which is known as "PRECEPTOR" means "GURU" .In ancient we can heard by ours grantha "SAMBHAWAY GURUWAY NAMAH" that means shiv is preceptor .and also many more Examples in our grantha .But Point is that if lord shiva is Preceptor of many ancient people in the world then why you can not accept his shishyta .So it is happen When a Great man born on Earth "SAHAB Sri Harindranand jee"