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March 2012
An IP (probable sock) has voted in the AFD for Inter-Services Intelligence support for terrorism, I tagged his vote as a SPA which he has removed twice[1][2] As I am unable to revert him again would you be so kind s to inform him that re-factoring comments on talk pages is not on. Darkness Shines (talk) 15:41, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi. You can issue warnings yourself - admin action is only needed once they have had warnings and are ignoring them. After that, WP:AIV or WP:ANI might be appropriate venues, or perhaps WP:AN3 if they're edit-warring. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:48, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh, thanks :-) Your new pages are looking pretty good. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:37, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your help, next job is to colour the different rows, but as I only got back today I think that might be a job for another day (though I did find this lol). Chaosdruid (talk) 21:52, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It's too heavy for me for this time of night :-) But I'll keep an eye on your page and see if you work something out. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:57, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Same here, I have just spent the last hour and a bit trying to get the template to go past 9 tabs.
- Success! We can now go to 12 tabs per row - Woohoo!!
- I will try and add some colours next, maybe tomorrow though, and drop you a line if I manage it. Chaosdruid (talk) 23:17, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
User:24.23.165.181 is back doing their thing at Rajput and Satinder Sartaaj. You've blocked them twice before and have also semi-p'd Rajput. Where do we go next? I have been doing some research regarding the Saini article in the vain hope that at least some of these issues might be put to bed over the next few weeks, but I wouldn't hold my breath that it would make any difference re: these individual. - Sitush (talk) 08:01, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I've semi-protected both, for a bit longer this time. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:38, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am pretty sure that there is some IP socking going on at Namasudra and have left a note at Talk:Namasudra#Requested move regarding one aspect of it. I would appreciate a review of that note. - Sitush (talk) 14:18, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Bit tied up right now, but I'll have a look later when I have time. First glance suggests the proposed move violates WP:COMMONNAME. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:44, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Slight confusion, I think. My concern is that my note requesting that IPs check out WP:SOCK before !voting might be overstepping the mark. I mean, obviously you are more than welcome to join in the actual discussion but that was not what I was asking to be be reviewed. - Sitush (talk) 17:47, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Nah, it's OK, I understood - that comment on the discussion was a bonus ;-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:52, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You unblocked this guy, fair enough not a lot I can do about it, how long before I can complain about him stalking my edits? As that is what he is going to do. Darkness Shines (talk) 15:08, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Please let's not condemn people for what they haven't done yet, eh? Should a problem occur, I'm sure you know the appropriate forums by now. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:41, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Your right, I have already told him I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Sorry to have bothered you. Darkness Shines (talk) 15:50, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
How do I recommend that User:Thomasehensel be warned and/or blocked? He is adding himself (same name) as a husband to Charlie Fern, bumping the subject of the article's former husband's name. I've reverted it a several times, and I contacted him twice on his talk page and asked that he discuss any changes on Charlie Fern's talk page. He ignored the request. Help! AuthorAuthor (talk) 19:59, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I think he just didn't understand Wikipedia's need for sources. He has provided an image of a marriage certificate on his Talk page, and I've used the reference details of that as a source in the article. Yes, he should have discussed it, but I can understand the frustration of people who wish to correct details of themselves and their loved ones, but get reverted. Anyway, I think the current solution is probably OK. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:33, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- (talk page stalker) I thought that we could not do this (use GRO data etc) because there is not usually a means of determining which Charlie Fern etc might be referred to on the primary source? It could be someone who shares the name etc. - Sitush (talk) 00:13, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, but I think it's in the grey area that Jimbo is often talking about - a BLP subject or someone close comes along to improve the article, doesn't get the sourcing up too scratch, and gets reverted and frustrated. I think it's OK to leave as it is for now, and I'll try to find better sources for it when I have the time. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In case you're not watching it, could you take a look at Caste system in India? It looks like it might need full protection soon. I haven't actually read any of the discussion (or the article), but I saw the matter pop up on Sitush talk page and the history and tone of the comments indicates that if this isn't already unacceptable, it may be soon. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:40, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Yep, I've had a look over the recent edits and at the discussion, and there's clearly some frustration developing. The edit-warring doesn't look like it's going to stop without intervention, so I've fully protected it until the discussion gets somewhere. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 23:56, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Apostle will come round to the Wiki way but the IP may not. Apostle has done much to improve the thing & is conscientious regarding discussion etc but the article is losing its focus now and I have said as much on the talk page. Perhaps surprisingly, I've barely contributed to that article ... and I intend to keep things that way ;) - Sitush (talk) 00:11, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Is the article protected? I see protection mentioned in the talk page edit summaries but no protection in the article edit history. I see it now, my page must have been stale. JanetteDoe (talk) 03:15, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If u r online, can u decline speedy deletion of Darshna Vaghela. He is deputy mayor of Ahmedabad and a new comer tagged it under a7 a1. I m getting inquisitive cuz i m the author of that page. Yasht101 07:35, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks like someone beat me to it :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:14, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Lol.. Yasht101
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The proxy IP has also posted this on the blocking admin's page. [3]--Wlmg (talk) 13:40, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, I'm just commenting there. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:44, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for giving me the information you did. I understand now about not divulging personal details. I just want to clear this up. It's like fighting Goliath. And I should have known that any support my sister gets would be countered by her enemies slinging mud at her.[4] 210.51.43.82 (talk) 20:29, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I read Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures#Ban appeals, but it says: 2.Appeals must be submitted by email by the editor blocked or banned, setting out the grounds for appeal and the name of the account affected.
- So does that mean that I'm not allowed to make an appeal on my sister's behalf? Should I not tell them what has happened to my sister? Do you know what should be done or should I ask another administrator? 210.51.43.82 (talk) 21:34, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Excuse me, but I have another concern. The line before line number 2 says: The Committee hears appeals from editors who (i) have been banned or are subject to lengthy or indefinite blocks and (ii) have exhausted all other avenues of appeal.
- But all avenues have not been exhausted, because my sister hasn't gotten a response to her unblock request from a deciding administrator. 210.51.43.82 (talk) 21:40, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm going to be as vague as possible here while I address the situation. If what you have alleged is true, now is not the time for your sister to be editing Wikipedia. When she is able to communicate for herself she is free to ask for her account to be unblocked. IP hopping and using proxies is not doing anything to help your sister, rather it is hurting any chance she has of getting unblocked. You have asked what you should do in regards to this mess. The answer is focus on your sister offline, and encourage her to come back and deal with this when she feels strong enough. AniMate 21:46, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for the response (and for being one of my sister's friends?). How is trying to make things right not helping my sister? I feel horrible about what I've done. I was too cocky and now it's led to this. There is no "if," Mr. AniMate. What I say is true. There are emails where she said goodbye to editors before doing what she did. She's suffering because of what I did here and may never edit here again. If her health fails her, then she definitely won't. I've been at her bedside telling her how sorry I am, and it feels like I should be here saying something too. You have no idea how this feels! I can't even use our real IP to make posts about this because my account is blocked and my real IP would be used by editors like Kim-whatever to sling mud at my sister! If there is truly nothing I can do to help the situation here, I will take your advice, but I desperately want to help clear up things here. Am I allowed to sign up for an account that recgonizes me as Flyer's brother so that I won't have to use my proxies? 210.51.43.82 (talk) 00:06, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I understand how you must feel, but an urgent attempt to unblock is not what matters most right now. I don't see any harm in sending an email to the Arbcom address to ask how best to proceed, but if it's not possible for you to address an unblock request yourself, then I agree with what AniMate says - an unblock request can be sorted out when your sister is able to talk about it herself. Above all, for now I'd say keep as much of this out of the public eye as possible and respect her privacy - and really, please stop talking about what happened all over different Talk pages. (In fact, I will probably delete or collapse this section soon, as it is already getting more personal than it really should.) And I really don't see any way that you can create an account that in any way proves you are who you say you are. When the time is appropriate, we can ask for an uninvolved person with Checkuser ability to help investigate the block (I'm uninvolved, but I don't have Checkuser, so I can't help directly - but I'm watching the appropriate Talk pages, and if needed I'll be happy to try to advise and/or contact the necessary people when the time is right). But for now, I'm afraid the best thing you can do really is just to back off for a bit and wait. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 00:26, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I came upon this independently of BsZ, but I agree 100% with what he's saying. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:20, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Mr, Boing! said Zebedee, I have been trying to clear her name, whether she stays blocked for a month or is unblocked before then. I don't want to leave things like this, but if it is best not to post about it anymore on Wikipedia, I will follow your advice in that respect. Thank you again for your help. The three of you. 210.51.43.82 (talk) 01:31, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, sounds good. I'm pretty sure things won't just be left the way they are - I'll be watching it myself, and I'll try to keep up with what's happening. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:39, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Boing! Need you to review my 'Kaul' article in my Sandbox. Am relatively new to the wiki world and have been struggling a bit with what can and can not be included. If you could edit out the specifics that you feel are innappropriate, & leave behind the content thats considered acceptable, I could use that to improve the article on the Kaul Page.'Ambar 03:51, 24 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambar wiki (talk • contribs)
- Hi. I have a busy weekend (off shortly to a Wikimedia meet, in fact), but I'll be happy to have a look over it as soon as I have the time - I'll leave any comments over on your Talk page. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:35, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I've commented on the sandbox talk page. There will be more comments to follow but I'm walking Ambar through some basics first. Enjoy the meet! - Sitush (talk) 10:45, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, thanks -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:48, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have created a list and i have included ur name in it. I hope u dont mind that. You can view it over Here! Yasht101 :) 04:04, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey, that's a very nice thing to do - I'm flattered :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:36, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I need your assistance in developing and spreading a wikiproject. Can you help me in developing and spreading this page in wikipedia: Wikipedia:Wikipedia for World Heritage
Thank you and Happy editing! Yasht101 :) 06:55, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The speedy was removed for an invalid reason ("it's been at AFD before"). This is clearly a slam dunk A7, and having to let it slog through AFD for God knows how long is just process for the sake of process. How is this not A7 material? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:15, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I will reply on your Talk page, to keep things all in one place. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:17, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Which I think is a crock. Say an article gets kept at AFD with entirely WP:ILIKEIT or otherwise invalid rationales. The article itself is one sentence long and makes no claim to notability — which under normal circumstances is primo A7 bait. But oh no, it's had one AFD before, we can't ever A7 it even if the AFD itself was totally devoid of policy based arguments! Does that not seem broken to you? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:24, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- All in one place, where it started, on your Talk page -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:26, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding Xanderliptak, it was actually only 14 months ago, not 2 years ago, that he was permanently put on ice over at commons (and here), thanks to extreme disruption, socking, and also because of the outrageous shenanigan he pulled in order to override the licensing rules and get his own images revoked. Namely, he sent a letter threatening legal action unless they were removed... as alleged "copyright violations".[5] Which is pretty funny, since it was he himself that uploaded them. He was trying to use them to advertise his website, and the other editors wouldn't let him get away with it, so he resorted to sordid means to get his way. He has no business ever being allowed back into any part of wikimedia. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:16, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the info -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:09, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
See User talk:Bocjrao. My suspicion, based on anon edits over the last few months, is that this one will burn up pretty quickly. - Sitush (talk) 08:20, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Eyes peeled. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:23, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings, I'm Stephen. I am a student at Michigan State University, and working on an exploration of the Wikipedia adminship process under the guidance of my professor, Jonathan Obar. I am contacting you to confirm our interview, as well as thank you for participating in our project.
You can reply to me via email - as my email address is listed in a Wikipedia email form to you - to confirm the interview. My questions should take no longer than 30 minutes to answer. Thank you again, and I look forward to working with you. Tarucstephen (talk) 15:06, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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