User talk:Jetstreamer

Editing Help

Thank you for your lovely and reliable information! But I have a question.

Lets say someone edited some information on a Wikipedia page, but they have no account. And when you re-add the right information, how do you send a message to that user, noting why that info has been re-added again, even though they do not have an account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AerospaceAirAviation (talk • contribs) 17:52, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

You should go to the talk page of the corresponding editor (an IP editor in this case) and post the note you want there. Templates in this page may be helpful.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 00:22, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Alaska Airlines/GA2

It's been a month since you last edited this review page, and there has been significant progress in the interim. Are you still continuing with this review, or should it be put back into the GAN pool for another reviewer? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:05, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

You should also mention that the last of my suggestions were implemented only ten days ago. I will continue with the review as soon as I have time to do so.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 01:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Move request

Hi there! Can anyone please move List of Balkan Bulgarian Airlines destinations back to Balkan Bulgarian Airlines destinations. The latter is the standard naming for airline destinations. I'd do it all by myself but don't have admin priviledges. Thank you.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:31, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

There is already a redirect in place. ^Gavin _Perch talk 16:55, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm precisely asking for the redirect to be undone. You're not an administrator. Why did you respond to my request?--Jetstreamer ^Talk 17:02, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

• You didn't need an admin for that, the redirect had no history outside of its creation. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:39, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Ethiopian Airlines Retiring 757s and 767s

Hi Jetstreamer!

I found 2 articles saying that Ethiopian Airlines is planning on retiring their 757s and 767s soon! I would like you to read it and see if that is some good information that is worth you putting on the Ethiopian Airlines fleet page.

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engines-components/news/ethiopian-install-winglets-767s-0110 http://atwonline.com/airline-finance-data/news/ethiopian-increases-star-alliance-presence-africa-1213 — Preceding unsigned comment added by AerospaceAirAviation (talk • contribs) 19:02, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Heathrow - Airlines & Destinations

Hi,

I'd like to make a suggestion for the Airlines & Destinations section of the Heathrow airport page as I'm not good with inserting links. Lufthansa Regional (operated by Eurowings) would not appear to be flying to LHR at all since February or March 2012. If you go to Lufthansa.com, you will see that all flights from Düsseldorf and Hamburg are operated by Lufthansa themselves, no matter what date you enter or what flight you select. Therefore, it would probably make sense to remove Lufthansa Regional from the list of current operators to LHR. Especially since, working next to LHR's northern runway, I haven't seen one of their aircraft here since the winter.

Also, it would be good to see if there is any official confirmation that Colombian carrier Avianca will start services to LHR in 4Q 2012, as has been strongly rumoured.

Thanks,

MG — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.128.115.14 (talk) 16:11, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Biman Bangladesh Airlines codeshare agreement

Hi, Since you frequently check on Biman Bangladesh Airlines and its destinations, I would like to inform you that Biman has a lot of codeshare agreement with other airlines, but the wikipedia page has no information about its codeshares. Biman has codeshares with Gulf Air, Qatar Airways, Emirates, Saudia and many more airlines, according to its Official Website. Would you update the information or should I?

Happy Editing!

Ahnaaf (talk) 16:44, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

You are right. Codeshares are missing. I'll add that section. Thanks for the data. Regards.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 17:09, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Any news on the codeshare agreements? Please refer to the official website has vital information. If you need, you can contact me!

Cheers! ~Ahnaaf (talk) 15:28, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Any news on the codeshare agreements? Please refer to the official website has vital information. If you need, you can contact me!

Cheers! ~Ahnaaf (talk) 15:28, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Any news on the codeshare agreements? Please refer to the official website has vital information. If you need, you can contact me!

Cheers! ~Ahnaaf (talk) 15:28, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Any news on the codeshare agreements? Please refer to the official website has vital information. If you need, you can contact me!

Cheers! Ahnaaf (talk)Ahnaaf (talk) 15:28, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Any news on the codeshare agreements? Please refer to the official website has vital information. If you need, you can contact me!

Cheers! Ahnaaf (talk)Ahnaaf (talk) 15:28, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Biman's website does not include any information about codeshare agreements. Separately, you don't need to post the same comment several times, as one is more than enough.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 23:35, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

airline destination page

Hi, just a thought and would like your opinion on this. At present most of the airline destination article table is a huge table with 'colour coded' rows. It contains information mixed up. Is it a good idea to suggest a project to split airline destination wiki articles to two separate tables. The first table will list all the operationally active ones, and the second one lists terminated, seasonal, chartered flights etc with colour coding. There is a downside to this is. The 'maintenance' will be a bit of overhead since it involves moving rows when an airline discountues/terminates a flight, however for the user - this will really help in my view since in most cases, reader will be looking for operationally active ones (for e.g while planning journey). --Smet (talk) 21:34, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Terminated destinations are currently included (or should be) in each airline destination list. Notwithstanding, I recommend you to raise the discussion at WP:AIRPORTS' talk page to get other opinions.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

BA cargo

Can their destinations be added to BA destinations lsit as all three aircraft are in full BA livery. 59.103.214.102 (talk) 12:54, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

No, they can't. Global Supply Systems includes not enough references to support that the company flies on BA's behalf.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 12:57, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

But here is BA cargo freighter schedule http://www.baworldcargo.com/schedule/longhaul_w2011.pdf listing all destinations served using GSS 748F in full BA livery. 119.154.238.45 (talk) 18:32, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Those destinations correspond to both BA and Iberia. Which airline serves which destinations?--Jetstreamer ^Talk 18:35, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

All are served by BA, Iberia does not operate freighter aircraft, all aircraft are in BA livery, schedule is for BA Cargo from their website. 119.154.238.45 (talk) 18:53, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

The timetable you added to Global Supply Systems specify that the cities included are served by BA World Cargo. Sorry, but I still don't see the connection between both companies. The article still lacks such connection (supported by at least a reliable reference).--Jetstreamer ^Talk 20:35, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Exactly why they should be moved to BA destinations list as they are not GSS own destinations. 59.103.215.235 (talk) 21:23, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Mmmmm, perhaps you're right. But what to do with GSS?--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:25, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Let it remain as other ACMI carriers articles with no destinations mentioned, like Atlas Air, World Airways etc. 59.103.215.235 (talk) 21:35, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I will add the cargo dest's into British Airways destinations tomorrow. You've convinced me that they should be there. Thanks. Wanna do it on your own?--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:57, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Done. 42.201.209.1 (talk) 18:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Excellent. Well done!--Jetstreamer ^Talk 19:38, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Admin help needed at Atatürk International Airport

Hello. Can any admin please take a look at this user's contributions? S(he) keeps adding to the article images that were not taken at the airport, as well as removing maintenance templates from the page. So far, I warned him/her twice. Sockpuppetry suspected as well. Thank you.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 19:02, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I have checked the user's editing history, and you are quite right about the problems with their editing. I have given a level 3 warning, with a little more detail about some of the problems than you gave. If the problems still continue please feel welcome to contact me on my talk page. The IP address is probably the same person, but I don't see that use of both the IP and the account has been abusive. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:40, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Montenegro Airlines flag carrier status

Can you please explain to me why you put "citation needed" tag on the sentence where it states Montenegro Airlines is the flag carrier of Montenegro? There is no citation for Air France being the flag carrier of France, or for Lufthansa being the flag carrier of Germany. I could go on, but there's no need. It's unclear to me why you would think YM isn't the flag carrier of Montenegro. Zastavafan76 (talk) 14:41, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Because of WP:V. If you think the other airlines you mention have their flag carrier status unsupported, you can go and add the same tag to their articles. I have reinstated the tag you removed. Let me remind you that removing maintenance templates is considered vandalism.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:48, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Please, you don't need to make me look stupid. I am not going to put citation tags on other articles as "revenge" for the citation tag on this article. Also, I do not think that articles of large western carriers lack citation evidence of flag carrier status, I just don't see what calls for a citation needed tag. When you said that the article doesn't support the flag carrier status, I realized that the only evidence of government favoritism was given through a source from the airline's main website (in the history section). You may or may have not noticed it, but I kept on deleting the citing tag because you didn't say whether there was any very-noticeable reason/lack of evidence to put it there. I just added two more independent sources that cited state aid/protection to the airline, although it would be useful to tell me which kind and how many sources do I need to put to affirm that flag carrier title. Zastavafan76 (talk) 00:38, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Flag carrier includes a citation you should use in the article we're talking about. It was added by myself to that article, as many others were. It will be my pleasure to include it in Montenegro Airlines for yourself. You just have to search in order to find...--Jetstreamer ^Talk 00:44, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Well I see you found it yourself. That was generous. Thanks Zastavafan76 (talk) 01:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Please Stop

Please stop putting wrong information on Uzbekistan Airways, thank you, half of the information there is wrong! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.47.225 (talk) 20:00, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

All my edits are supported by references, unlike yours. You don't seem to understand the verifiability policy. Will request protection for the page. You should also sign your post by placing --~~~~ after your comments...--Jetstreamer ^Talk 20:27, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Your sources are wrong please use planespotters.net to correct them, because your sources are wrong! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.47.225 (talk) 04:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

About Uzbekistan Airways again

Please use Planespotters.net as your resource and correct Uzbekistan Airways fleet section info, thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.47.225 (talk) 04:06, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Uzbekistan Airways

In mid-2007, the carrier ordered six Airbus A320s; by that time the fleet was 55 strong, comprising 10 different aircraft models; the Russian-built Yak-40 was among them.[9] Two Boeing 787-8s, worth US$70 million, were ordered in October the same year.[10], do you really think 787 order is accurate and please check the source number 10 and read it, because 70 million was for the engines only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.47.225 (talk) 04:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

You're right on this. The page has been fully proptected, so only administrators can edit it. It also means that our differences are expected to be solved at the article's talk page. I therefore invite you to continue discussing here.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 11:39, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

el al post

Dear Jetstreamer - you have told me I submitted incorrect information to a post on El Al's page. The information was NOT incorrect. Please resotre the information I left. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.80.71.90 (talk) 08:27, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Your addition is not supported by the source you provided.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:25, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

jetstreamer -

you wanted a source http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/el-al-plan-luton-tel-aviv-flights

now please restore the edition I made regarding El Al flying to Stanstead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.80.71.90 (talk) 12:20, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for providing the source.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 12:39, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Cubana de Aviación Flight 9646

I saw you did this article. It was a crash I have been meaning to do but have put off repeatedly. Just a couple of comments...

• I added a section on the cause of the crash. The source- David Gero's book Aviation Disasters.
• I also did a couple of other tweaks, one of which was how much the winds were gusting at the time of the crash. This again was according to Gero's book. You may want to IC the speed of the winds using Gero's book. I tried to do it, but it was messing up the article. As always, feel free to fix up my work. Cheers!...William 14:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

The article was started because the number of fatalities is to date the highest for an accident taking place at Cuba, just above Aeroflot Flight 331. I added a link to Cubana's crash when editing the latter article and it actually appeared as a red one. Your contributions are always welcome. Regards.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Fare Codes

Please can you have a look at this - Thanks --JetBlast (talk) 08:41, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

User deserving a blocking

{{admin-help}} Hi there! Don't you think these contributions deserve more than just the level-1 warning I left in their talk page? Thanks.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 20:48, 12 August 2012 (UTC) {{admin!}}

I've placed a sockpuppet investigation regarding the above user. Can you please tell me if it has been correctly done? I asked for an admin intervention as well regarding the user's recent activity. Thanks in advance for your replies.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 00:49, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Separately, this IP user keeps disregarding the Manual of Style, despite being warned many times that their edits go against it.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:03, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

C.Fred has reverted all remaining edits and left the airline page editor a note... Consider reporting these to WP:AIV in the future for faster responses than admin-help.  7  04:19, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I've untranscluded the admin help tag, as this appears to be resolved. Qwyrxian (talk) 10:42, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Please Calm Down

When reediting my mistakes, and telling me why I was wrong, please reply in a calm matter. Yes, so I did add incorrect information, but that doesn't mean you have to say my editing appeared to be Vandalism when it was just a simple mistake even a bone-head like you could make sometimes. Your message, "Delivery of the First Dreamliner is scheduled to take place on 17 August, according to a reference provided in the article." I have SO MANY references that it scheduled delivery was today, because its flying out to DC, and back to Addis with 250 select customers, and VIPs! You could've included the references saying it'll be delivered today! I gonna keep including my changes whether you like it or not. Your not the only one that keeps an eye on that page! I do to so don't think your the only one keeping an eye on that page! I'm Ethiopian, and I have an uncle who's a pilot for that airline. So that's how I know it'll be delivered today.

As of 9:19 AM Pacfic Time, 8/14/2012, I have finished reeditting the Ethiopian Airlines page, and included NUMEROUS references unlike you were able to do! Is that so hard for you? Your supposed to be an administrator. We are supposed to admire and look up to you? But after this, I'm done looking up to you and admiring you.

1. This reference you added clearly says the airline will take delivery of the first Dreamliner next week. Don't you think that such an event will be much publicised, specially by the airline, if it had already occurred? That there's no official press releases neither from the aircraft manufacturer nor from the airline is enough evidence for not suppoorting your claims. The official delivery of the first aircraft didn't occur yet. Apart from that, your addition of “numerous” references as you say violates WP:CITECLUTTER.
2. I'm not an administrator, and even if I was one, administrators don't have special privileges regarding the normal edition of articles.
3. WP:V states that every change you made to Wikipedia is expected to be supported by reliable sources, not by your personal knowledge. I strongly encourage you to familiarise yourself with the policies and guidelines. press release.
4. You should sign your posts. I don't expect anyone to admire me, but I do expect for every user to sign their comments as a courtesy. --Jetstreamer ^Talk 17:23, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

If you had eyes, you'll notice these two articles CLEARLY stat it was delivered to them, one of which, IS FROM THE AIRLINE ITSELF IF YOU ARE TO BLIND TO SEE! http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/story/2012-08-12/Ethiopian-Airlines-to-become-third-to-fly-Boeing-Dreamliner/57014588/1 http://www.ethiopianairlines.com/en/news/prarchive.aspx?id=325%7Cpublisher=Ethiopian Airlines . You can keep reeditting it because I'll keep doing it as well until you face facts that your dumb, I'm right, and you forfeit! Sorry but, you can't always win you know. Life's rough... I know more about Ethiopian Airlines than you'll ever know for as long as you live!

This is the latest official press release from the airline itself. Not yet delivered, no matter what you say. This is not about winning or losing, but about providing accurate information. Will request full protection for the page to stop this silly discussion. Separately, you keep leaving your posts unsigned. Furthermore, I warn you about WP:PERSONAL and WP:CIVIL.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 19:31, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

I came here because of Jetstreamer's post on WikiProject airlines. Jetstreamer is handling this in a calm, respectful manner. AerospaceAirAviation, I think you are the one that needs to calm down and take a break from this discussion. Finally, remember that the saying "Don't make a mountain out of a molehill" is true even of Wikipedia. —Compdude¹²³ 23:48, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

By the way, Jetstreamer, there is now a press release on Boeing's website saying that the 787 has now been delivered to Ethiopian Airlines. —Compdude¹²³ 05:04, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm including it in the article as a reference. The request protection has been withdrawn. Thanks.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:04, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Now I have come to apologize to you Jetstreamer. I wasn't right to go off on you like I did. But on ET's page, don't you think it's a good idea to add a reference just incase some users don't believe? I will do so if that is ok! Thanks for your understanding, and I apologize! --Triple A (talk) 13:34, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

No need to apologise, my Ethiopian friend! I added a sentence at the introduction of the fleet section —as well as two references— supporting the delivery of the first Dreamliner. Furthermore, I also updated the reference supporting the fleet table, where the Dreamliner has been included. I invite you to take a look and tell me what do you think. I also invite you take a look at Ethiopian Airlines destinations, which I turned into the new layout as per these guidelines. By the way, this edit was very appropriate. Warm regards from Argentina.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:47, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks alot my Argentinan friend! The Ethiopian Airlines destinations page turned out to be real better! Now there won't be some confusion when you see if that destination is still being operated or terminated. And, this edit, when I last saw it, it said fuel exhaustion. But recently, it said fuel starvation, but I couldn't find who did it! Thanks for your understanding! Also, this reference I found said ET is supposed to retire their 757s and 767s. Is that a good reference to include? Your call! Thanks for your understanding! --Triple A (talk) 13:59, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Recent Deletion

Hi Jetstreamer.

I'm here right now to tell you why I recently removed you post on Wikiproject airlines. The reason why I deleted your post is because I know the person that keeps saying the 787 Dreamliner is already delivered to Ethiopian Airlines. I know AerospaceAirAviation in person, and the reason he keeps saying it's delivered is because he is overly excited that they are the 3rd to operate in the world, and the 1st in Africa to operate instead of Kenya. Also, he doesn't want the page to have full protection. The day it's delivered, he told me that he wanted to be the one that will post that they got their first 787 Dreamliner. Give him another chance please. I'll be sure to keep an eye on him and the page. Just do it for me and not for him I appreciate it! --KevinMichaelBradley1996 (talk) 01:54, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

ET 757/767 Seating Config

This reference, and this reference shows that Ethiopian Airlines operates a total of nine Boeing 757s, 2 757-200F, and 7 757-200s. On the ET fleet list, it only shows they operate a total of 5 passenger 757-200s. Also on this reference, I found out they had more types of seating configs aside from the others that are currently on the ET fleet section. I did some research and concluded with this: All have P16/Y144: 3

/Y154: 1

/Y155: 2

/Y159: 1

Now for the Boeing 767s, they do have a total according to this reference, and this reference. On this reference, I found all the seat configs except for 2. Reg. ET-AMQ, and ET-AQG. The rest have: P24/Y208: 1

P24/Y210: 1

P24/Y213: 2

P24/Y221: 5

P30/Y190: 1

I would try editing this on my own, but whenever I try, but something happens with the layout. That's why I ask you know to review this, and add it to the ET fleet page. Thanks alot! --Triple A (talk) 17:36, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

I'd stick to this official information (reference number 100 in the article), where the airline states it has four 757s and 12 767s on service. I've checked the seat configurations in the table, and they are in agreement with this reference. Please bear in that we should stick to official sources whenever possible.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 18:01, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Flag carriers and the case of Norway

Traditionally, the flag carrier of Norway was Braathens SAFE[3], who operated in competition with SAS and dominated the Norwegian market.

In Norway today there are two predominant companies: - SAS (who bought Braathens just as it was going bankrupt) - Norwegian Air Shuttle (Braathens' former regional partner, now run by mostly former Braathens people)

According to the definition of a flag carrier on the Wikipedia page: "A flag carrier is a transportation company, such as an airline or shipping company, that, being locally registered in a given state, enjoys preferential rights or privileges, accorded by the government, for international operations."

... none of them probably deserve that right, and if any, it would be Norwegian, as the Norwegian authorities banned loyalty programmes on Norwegian domestic in order to allow Norwegian to grow into a sizeable competitor to SAS. [1 -- On how they are now considering to lift this] Furthermore, Norwegian is registered in Norway while SAS is not[2].

There are no advantages to SAS or any SAS owned companies afforded in Norway, and there are several international routes served only by Norwegian Air Shuttle. It is therefore, I think, inappropriate to list SAS as a flag carrier for Norway.

[1] http://www.konkurransetilsynet.no/en/news/archive/split-solution-for-airline-loyalty-program/?hl=loyalty

[2] http://www.sasgroup.net/SASGroup/default.asp -- registration at the bottom of this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.117.132 (talk) 01:42, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Braathens_B737-200_and_British_Airways_757.jpg

The inclusion of SAS is appropriately backed up by a source, in compliance with WP:V.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:19, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

The first source states that SAS was founded in part by an airliner that was considered the Norwegian flag carrier, and had appropriate privileges at the time. Later, as commonly known, Braathens was seen as the flag carrier, and had the same kind of privileges -- as referred to by the second source. That second source is simply stating the same definition of flag carrier which both airline companies do not satisfy. Surely, a source without a direct reference can not be counted as a legitimate source unless it specifically makes a mention of this case in particular. Historical fact should not serve as grounds to state current fact.

ethiopian airlines

The dates can be checked at amadeus.net but cannot be added in link form to this site, to not allow this info on that basis is ridiculous.119.154.226.167 (talk) 00:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Verifiability is a policy. Your edit goes against it.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 00:42, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

/* Scheduled services */

Please DO SOME GOOGLING before trying to correct others, Ethiopian Airlines will fly to KLIA starting October 31st. http://airlineroute.net/2012/08/16/et-kul-w12/ http://www.2merkato.com/201207241470/ethiopian-airlines-to-fly-to-kuala-lampur

The first of the references you provide is not considered reliable, as discussed at WT:AIRLINE. The second one does not include a firm date. The page has been semi-protected to avoid the inclusuion of content that is not in agreement with the verifiability policy. You should also sign your posts.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:36, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

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Ethiopian Airlines Ordered 777-300ERs?

I'm really sorry that everytime I come onto your page to post something, it always has to be about Ethiopian Airlines. I'm just a huge fan of the airline because that is my flag carrier, I am from that country, and they are the leading african airliner. I looked at this reference and toward the end, I see that the airline has leased two Boeing 777-300ERs from GECAS. And when I looked at this reference under the fleet on order, the airline itself said it ordered 2 777-300ERs, but doesn't state they're leased. No specific type of seating is also included. I try googling it, and I can't find any other article that says whether the airline has ordered or cancelled the order. I thought I come to you for help. And if they did, you should add that to the ET fleet.

And also, is it true that ET is going to start service to Kuala Lumpur via Bangkok? There is no other reference that states it.

Also if you can, you should create a separate page for the ET Cargo like you see for Emirates SkyCargo. It's your choice. You don't need to do it. I'm suggesting. --Triple A (talk) 14:43, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem, you can write me anytime you want. Regarding the aircraft that will be leased from GECAS, they are two Boeing 777Fs. These aircraft are already included in the Cargo Fleet section of the fleet table: a note says that two of them will be leased from GECAS. On the other hand, ET will likely start services to KUL, but there's no official confirmation yet. We should wait for it.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 19:15, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

GATSA

Did this airline really exist? I'm having trouble finding confirmation.-...William 18:39, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

No results from a search at Flightglobal.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 18:58, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to put it up as a speedy delete then. Possible Hoax. The article is totally unreferenced....William 19:20, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Not a hoax as it is listed in FAA documents with a call sign but probably not notable unless operations were entirely in Mexico.NiD.29 (talk) 06:23, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

ET Narrowbody Order

According to this reference, looks like Ethiopian Airlines will be ordering some more Boeing 737 Next Generations, as well as some more Boeing 757s. And now I read that their Boeing 767s will be retired on 2017-2018. What do you think about adding this info?

Also, for my last post on your page, ET will not be leasing the Boeing 777-300ERs, but they have converted their order to leasing the Boeing 777F instead? I am confused. --Triple A (talk) 14:12, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I've updated the retirement date for the 767-300ERs, as per the reference you provided. Regarding the narrowbody order, nothing should be added until there's an official confirmation either from the manufacturer or from the airline, yet no firm order has been placed so far.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:58, 21 August 2012 (UTC)