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The infobox image is slightly lookalike a wax statue then please change it with another.---zeeyanketu ^{talk to me} 18:08, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wealth.

What is her wealth? СЛУЖБА (talk) 17:35, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help. How can I put a quote as part of the reference?

Can someone please help me put the quote and it’s translation as part of the reference to the fact that Mila’s mum was Russian? I just figured for those who don’t speak Russian it would be good to see a translation.

[1] “У меня русская мама, она была знаменитой актрисой в СССР (Галина Логинова. — Газета). И первые книги, которые я прочитала, были на русском языке. Я воспитывалась в атмосфере русской классической театральной школы. Искусство, построенное на системе Станиславского, — это наиболее реалистичное искусство. И современное кино стоит на этих же принципах. Ведь русскому человеку важно докопаться до правды. Это и есть основа русской культуры. Я об этом никогда не забываю, тем более что у меня русские корни.”

“I have Russian mother, she was a famous actress in the USSR (Galina Loginova). And the first books, which I read, were in Russian. I was raised in the atmosphere of the Russian classical theatre school. The art, built on the system of Stanislavsky – that’s the most realistic art. And the modern cinema stands on the same principle. A Russian person wants to find the truth. This is the base of the Russian culture. I never forget it, especially since I have Russian roots.”

Thank you! 79.99.144.141 (talk) 08:35, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"I am a strong Ukrainian girl"

I seem to be in a dispute about the sentence in this article: "I am a strong Ukrainian girl". According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking: "Appropriate links provide instant pathways to locations within and outside the project that are likely to increase readers' understanding of the topic at hand". The topic at hand in the sentence "I am a strong Ukrainian girl" is Ukrainians (the topic at hand in the sentence "I am a strong girl born in Ukraine" is Ukraine). Hence edits like this one are incorrect. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:31, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article Ukrainians talks about Ukrainians as an ethnic group, and she is clearly not ethnically Ukrainian. For example when I go abroad I say I'm English or British, but ethnically I am Belarusian and Polish. When you open a page of every "English football player" English always lead to England and not English people. I think because of the fact in the Soviet Union when people said nationality they ment ethnicity it caused some problems for people from the CIS to see the difference, which I understand, but it's important to see the difference in definition. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 19:10, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This has nothing to do with "ethnic groups"; but with linguistics... The topic at hand in the sentence "I am a strong Ukrainian girl" is Ukrainians. According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking: "Appropriate links provide instant pathways to locations within and outside the project that are likely to increase readers' understanding of the topic at hand". You are ignoring my arguments here above completly. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:21, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would have preferred if you had waited till this disagreements was resolved through discussion (and other peoples input in this discussion) first instead of trying to get things your way by reverting 5 minutes old edits. You can also not claim that you know exactly what other people mean whilst you have never met those people let alone asked them. Other people have to be able to check that you didn't just make things up. We don't know what Jovovich meant when she said "I am a strong Ukrainian girl"; if you do know what she meant; please tell us how you found that out.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:37, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not making things up, it's a fact. Ukrainians doesnt talk about people in Ukraine but about the ethnic group. I gave you a clear example with the English football players, you can find a similar one for many other cases. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 19:47, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So you don't know what Jovovich meant when she said "I am a strong Ukrainian girl"? Or are you avoiding my arguments again? — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:54, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It ment that she is from Ukraine, but that doesnt make her Ukrainian by ethnicity, ethnically she's half Serbian and half Russian. She is Ukrainian by place of birth, so it should redirect to Ukraine. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 20:01, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The topic at hand in the sentence "I am a strong Ukrainian girl" is Ukrainians; hence the re-direct should be to Ukrainians. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:09, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian as for born in Ukraine, obviously she didn't mean Ukrainian ethnicity because she is not Ukrainian by ethnicity! 94.0.160.176 (talk) 21:12, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You don't know that.... But is is irrelevant what she meant: According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking: "Appropriate links provide instant pathways to locations within and outside the project that are likely to increase readers' understanding of the topic at hand". The Manual of Style does not talk about "The links should provide instant pathways to locations within and outside the project at the choosing of the subject of the Wikipedia article". For the readers linking to Ukrainians will increase readers' understanding of the topic at hand (Milla Jovovich) more then a link to Ukraine (in this part of the article). — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:41, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know what...? As far as we know she didn't have people of Ukrainian ethnicity in her family. But she is not ethnically Ukrainian, that's why linking her to a link about Ukrainians doesnt make sense. The link should go to Ukraine simply because that's where her reerence to Ukraine comes from. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 21:54, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You don't know that she didn't meant Ukrainian ethnicity (because she is not Ukrainian by ethnicity). You decided (for her) that she did not meant that without consulting her on it. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:57, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See Ukrainian. Any further questions? --Jaan Pärn (talk) 13:12, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree! Makes sense. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 16:36, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Jaan! You where right. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:36, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, but do you mind re-reading what you wrote, and telling me if it makes sense? She is obviously not of Ukrainian ethnicity, that is known, she is half Russian and half Serbian, so why would she claim she is of Ukrainian ethnicity if she is not? It's obvious the only thing she could mean was nationality, which is a different case. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 16:36, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We at Wikipedia work with sources.... We report what the sources say! Not what we think they say... There have been millions of people who have claimed that they are something which they where not.... and later claimed something else. Why something claims something is not the issue here on Wikipedia; it is about finding sources who say why they say something, not about personal opinions and personal interpretations why somebody says something. That is what I tried to teach you (in a bit roundabout way I agree...). — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:36, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's funny you said that, because you yourself were not reporting what the source said, which is obvious, Ukrainian=born in Ukraine (because ethnically she is not Ukrainian so she could not mean ethnically Ukrainian), but you tried to twist it around and somehow redirect a person who has nothing do do with Ukrainians as an ethnic group to an article talking about ethnic Ukrainians. I don't see how you can teach me something you don't know yourself :-) I guess you have some learning to do :-P Being 24/7 on Wikipedia doesnt mean you have more authority, it means many things, but not that. 94.0.160.176 (talk) 09:58, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]