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WikiProject Food and Drink re Lactose Intolerance

Looking forward to your contributions, as you were talking about citing sources on Wikipedia I thought I would give you a link that might help you out Wikipedia:Citing sources. Good luck, and feel free to contact me for any questions you have.--Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 15:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Tallard,
thank you for editing "Lactose Intolerance" in such a professional and objective way. To be honest, every time I look at it, there is another version online, sometimes it is completely unbelievable rubbish... I was already thinking about asking for protection for this article, as it is obviously 'edited' very often by dairy lobbyists, who delete any point about cutting dairy out of one's diet, even people with severe lactose intolerance have to 'train to consume dairy again' etc. Could you keep an eye on this page or pass it to any Wiki admin? An article like this should be protected, as it contains very highly discussed subjects... Best regards
--Reiskeks 21:49, 11 October 2007 (GMT+1).

Dear Tallard,
at least a sort of answer, I think the reversing tool of Wikipedia works good enough, nevertheless I usually save any writings on my HDD (it seemed faster to access for articles which are very often reversed and renewed). I just asked you for watching this particular article, as your contribution was very professional.

I am always having a hard time to cope with 'professional' English, I suppose I should contribute in German, but I left the German Wikipedia after the absolutely unbelievable deletion of dozens of articles about different Linux distributions, which was not even reversed for months, and the only reason for this was "those articles were not relevant" (among others, the major polish Linux distro and PcLinuxOS, the most user friendly, and number 3 or 4 on Distrowatch.com, short after Ubuntu, Suse and Mandriva, were deleted).

That is the reason why I started to watch all the pages, which write about lobbyists deleting and rewriting articles in Wikipedia. I think, as lactose intolerance is such a controversy, and there is so much money involved in this game, there should be any kind of monitoring or some control for the 'Lactose Intolerance' article. Wikipedia is the most accessed and most known Open Source page of the internet, and it one of the 10 most accessed and known pages in generally, alongside with such giants like Google, Microsoft and Yahoo. Therefore, I think it has a certain impact on what people think about different subjects, and so, dairy lobbyists may be of course be interested in changing the 'unpleasant' parts of 'Lactose Intolerance' (even if this would harm the health of thousands of people who read the article). I know well that lactose intolerance is not a disease, but some of the symptoms may be very frightening, especially for people who already have poor health (cancer, HIV, Morbus Crohn, Diabetes etc...).

Best regards
--Reiskeks 11:50, 14 October 2007 (GMT+1).

Talk:Hymen Redundant Section

Hello Tallard. The new Talk:Hymen#Regligious bias NPOV needs fixing section appears to be a continuation of the previous Talk:Hymen#Needs complete rewriting and remove all illustrations (needs real pictures) one. Would you mind if I merge the two sections? (I'm "watching' your talk page, so feel free to respond here.) -- Kirk Hilliard (talk) 05:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Most of that section focused on the low grade illustration serving as a "normal situation" image per se; and it's long and unweildly, that's why I started a new one. I guess I was hoping this section would focus more on the general tone and scientific neutrality of the article. But I'm not emotionally attached to the discussion's presentation, maybe we should change the other title to reflect image use only...?--Tallard (talk) 06:32, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I certainly agree that the discussion has become unwieldy, and but as it is now currently running full steam in the new section I am reluctant to merge them. As far as the discussion related to the image use, I see that we have another new section, this one added by RAN for the RFC. -- Kirk Hilliard (talk) 12:29, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding the new RFC section, it is currently lacking your voice. Some of your objections have been quoted, but I know that you are concerned not just about the accuracy of the drawing, but also about the tone it sets, as the lead illustration, for the entire article, and I have not attempted to paraphrase your thoughts in that regard. -- Kirk Hilliard (talk) 01:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was very interested to see your remark that the image in question was no longer used in the most recent edition of Gray's Anatomy. I tried to look into this myself, but was unable to view any but the very old editions online. What edition and year was this, and were you looking at a hard copy or did you find it on the net? -- Kirk Hilliard (talk) 12:37, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I feel your understanding of my understanding of the implications of the article are quit correct. I'm frankly at a loss of proper wording to express what I see as a gross misrepresentation of cited references.
I am in Whitehorse, the Gray's Anatomy (mid 70s, but I'm confused because I thought it also said said 40th ed which doesn't quite make sense). A four inch thick hard cover book good technical illustrations, not low resolution drawings. I went to the library not knowing for sure I'd find the questioned image. The index page pointed to a single page. That page's entry for hymen was shorter than this paragraph and had no attached figures. The small paragraph merely points out that it's usually completely resorbed by the time of birth and it's developmental pathway. OK, back to the discussion page...--Tallard (talk) 09:02, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Whitehorse! That is so cool. (I miss snow; I haven't seen a latitude greater than 8 degrees in a couple of years.) Yukon College's library is presumably not up to university standards; that must be frustrating. Regarding my understanding of your understanding, thank you, but I think that I am only now starting to see your concerns. Your remark asking, "Does the phimosis page go on and on about the various shapes and configurations and inconsequential rape examinations" in particular has given me pause for thought. Even if an article was entirely factually accurate (not that this is necessarily the case here) every part could be correct, but as a whole it could be very wrong. Correcting this, and even more so explaining how and why it is wrong, could be quite difficult. Still, the first job is determining the factual errors, which should be easier. -- Kirk Hilliard (talk) 23:15, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly, that's what I've been trying to say by "misrepresentation of facts", but possibly your wording can make it clearer for debaters than mine. My main frustration is with Richard's insistence on proving him wrong, which is as impossible as believers asking atheists to "prove" god doesn't exist. But I'm not sure where that stands in Wikipedia guidelines, something about which side of facts does the burden of proof lie within...--Tallard (talk) 08:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Richard's vandalism on Hymen page

I am at a loss here, yesterday he started vandalizing by flooding the hymen article with multiple edits (individually unrevertible because of intermediate edit conflicts) by again adding religiously biased statements and deleting paragraphs left right and center. He adds {fact} tags to anything against his opinion even when the equal statement is referenced elsewhere on page, and changes referenced sentences and to twist them to his POV regardless of the reference itself. I reverted his vandalism flood several times, with justifications in discussion page of why not individual reverts, but he just keeps putting everything back. How do we deal with this religious zealousness? And I thought the image debate was a work in progress, but it seems the other users that came around have left already... what to do?--Tallard (talk) 21:04, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tallard. Take a short time out. I see that Richard has flagged you with a 3RR warning, and there is no need getting blocked over this. (Three is an upper bound here, and blocks happen for less. Don't set yourself up so that you have to waste your time appealing a block.) Remember that this article was in what you considered "bible pedia" condition for a long time before you ran across it, so a couple of days delay to your edits isn't significant in the Big Picture. Flag the article as Template:POV, as you clearly feel that this is the case. Perhaps Template:ActiveDiscuss is merited as well. More to follow shortly. -- Kirk Hilliard (talk) 22:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Believe it or not, I do think that both of you are editing in good faith, although both of you have, at times (and perhaps unintentionally), employed disruptive tactics, and in Richard's case, I do agree that much of his recent activity has been unhelpful. Let me write up a couple of paragraphs about how we can structure the discussion and work toward harmonious editing (yeah, right!). I can't do it immediately, but I'll get it posted within 24 hrs. (Morning call for prayer has been echoing across the harbour and with the coming daylight I have to return to real work.) In the meantime, consider copying Hymen over to a user subpage and working on it there.
I suggest that in your posts to Talk:Hymen you avoid labeling material contrary to your view as "religious" or edits as "religiously motivated". It is not at all clear to me that religion (or even an overbearing morality that does travel hand in hand with many religious sects) is responsible for whatever misunderstandings exist regarding the hymen. Nor is it clear that obsession with virginity (again motivated more, perhaps, by overbearing morality than by religion itself) and resulting virginity tests are much influenced by such misinformation. Even if some incorrect information is religious in origin, those spreading it may simply be misinformed. In any case, excessive use of the term does create the appearance of fanatically advocating an agenda (although I suppose, fanatic or not, we should all be advocating an agenda of NPOV). It should be sufficient to describe an assertion as incorrect. As you've mentioned, addressing the tone of an article is the most difficult part, so save your "religiously motivated" descriptions for when you need them, and even then use them sparingly.
Finally, don't think that I am necessarily "on your side" (unless, of course, "your side" is simply that of the improvement of this article and of wikipedia in general). I am under the impression that you are assuming as fact some statements that I do not find supported by my recent reading, however I am not well informed on the subject, and am even less well informed on your assumptions. From the beginning you proposed a complete rewrite and asked for others' input, and after not receiving any you started boldly editing the article. This is good, but as objections have arisen, and as you propose sweeping changes to the article, it is reasonable to discuss what problems exist with both the facts and the POV (the former always easier than the latter) before implementing those sweeping changes. Before you think that I am part of some religious cabal "against you" (as if denials do any good), left me assure you that I am an atheist, much as I am an Aleprechaunist (however germane that may be). -- Kirk Hilliard (talk) 00:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've locked the article. He's not vandalising the article. Do you really think he'd be still editing Wikipedia if he was a vandal? Please use this time to talk to him about and get some sort of compromise on the table without the mindless reverts. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me. ScarianCall me Pat! 21:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tallard. I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I'm underway in a few hours, and won't be able to return to WP for a month or so. I did want to point out WP:SYNTH, as it describes a more subtle form of OR that can be problematic even when trying to write about an issue that you know is supported by the sources, but which is not explicitly stated. Also, I think that it would be worth your while to look at a couple of books such as those by Catherine Blackledge or Hanne Blank to see how the subject is treated by modern, feminist authors. I know that you prefer your scientific journals, but the footnotes and bibliographies of even popular works can help in guiding further reading, and their method of presentation may be instructive. Bye. -- Kirk Hilliard (talk) 20:51, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

re: Hymen

Just had to look-through of the RfC on the Hymen photo issue, and while I have nothing to contribute to that debate, I did want to throw you some more metaphysical support. I think your project is on the money. I've never actually given the issue any thought, but you're clearly correct that the Hymen is primarily important as a sociological construct, rather than as a biological fact. have you looked into any of the feminist, post-feminist or post-structuralist work that deals with paternalism and virginity? I know the work is out there, and I'm thinking someone has had to address the hymen from a philosophical perspective. that might give your argument a little more umph. --Ludwigs2 00:17, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Proposed deletion of Viva Chile!

The article Viva Chile! has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non notable album

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(Apologies for the belated response, Wikibreak.) All I can say is that I completely agree and hope the situation with that article can be rectified. Talking about finding proof for a negative statement is absurd ("prove to me god does NOT exist!"), it is a frequently encountered logical fallacy known as an argumentum ad ignorantiam. A person that is simply "agnostic" holds we do not have knowledge of god and additionally states his belief that such knowledge is unknowable. The belief that this is some sort of a "softer form of atheism" stems from the idea that agnostics also hold that we "cannot disprove (a) god" - but this latter notion is simply absurd ("a logical fallacy in which it is considerd that a premise may be true only because it has not been proven false") as one cannot ever disprove or find evidence disproving a phantasm that has yet to be evidenced (especially one that always modifies itself to advancements in knowledge).
An agnostic theist believes in (a) god (most often due to a reason unrelated to any empirical and logical reasoning), but does not think we can ever "know his ways" (or something of the sort :). The two are so utterly unrelated it is laughable to even think of using the category "agnostic" as a religious or spiritual determinant.

That said, as a student of medicine I cannot claim to be knowledgeable is philosophy. I make a point of usually staying away from subjects I am not very familiar with. I certainly hope you will fix this nonsense article, simply because that will establish a lower tolerance for nonsense on Wiki. Best of luck :) --DIREKTOR (TALK) 21:55, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're invited!

Hello, Tallard,

You are invited meet with your fellow Wikipedians by attending the Montréal meetup scheduled on Sunday, June 27, 2010; between 1500 - 1700 to be held at the Comité Social Centre Sud (CSCS), located at 1710 Beaudry, in Montréal. You can sign up at the meetup page.

The meetup is happening in concurrence with RoCoCo 2010, a free, bilingual, weekend unconference including many people involved with Wikis both within the Wikipedia/Wikimedia Community and abroad. You do not need to attend the conference to sign up for the Wikimeetup, but you are certainly welcome! Bastique ☎ call me!

(PS: Please share this with those you know who might not be on the delivery list, i.e. Users in Montreal/Quebec)

Delivered by SoxBot (talk) 00:50, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Otsuchi tsunami

Hi, I've reverted your additions at Ōtsuchi, Iwate and the main earthquake article about a 25 metre tsunami in the town. In both cases you provided non-reliable sources (YouTube and a blog respectively), and the Japan Meteorological Agency is the organisation responsible for issuing the official tsunami heights recorded, and it would be unwise to use a single first-hand report by someone, unconfirmed by any official agency, stating otherwise. Strange Passerby (talkcontribsEditor review) 11:34, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Tallard. You have new messages at Strange Passerby's talk page.
Message added 11:45, 18 March 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

March 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, there is a Manual of Style that should be followed to maintain a consistent, encyclopedic appearance. Using different styles throughout the encyclopedia, as you did in Whitehorse, Yukon, makes it harder to read. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Cmr08 (talk) 07:03, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, sorry about the welcome part. It seems like every level 1 warning starts with that. This was just a template to point out that I had to fix something in that particular article, and you would now know how the headers should appear. As for the "harder to read part", it's a strange wording, but that's the wording the level 1 template uses. I think it's just trying to say that the encyclopedia is better when all articles are following the same manual of style. If I offended you, I'm really sorry, that wasn't my intention. The message wasn't meant to be critical or anything, it was just to let you know there was a problem with the manual of style you were using in the article. As for the article, I must say that you have done a great job improving it. Cmr08 (talk) 04:07, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I ended up in the article by chance. I like taking a look at community articles because I find those are the articles that end up with the most vandalism or unencyclopedic content being added. I usually jump around, or if I'm checking an athlete or politician, etc., I will often click on their place of birth. Vandals seem to like the notable person lists, while other editors seem hooked on using the "External links" section to promote, so there is often work to be done on those kind of articles. Cmr08 (talk) 04:56, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delisting of good article

Hi Tallard, I'm not sure what your concerns are. If an article that is currently listed as a GA (or is considered to have been "wrongly assessed" as being a GA - there are some "poor" reviewers) and that rating is considered to be "wrong", the article can be reassessed against WP:WIAGA by an individual (personal reassessment, by a "user" not an "IP") or by the community (community reassessment), both reassessments by means of WP:GAR; and if it fails, or is put On Hold and not fixed, GA-status can be removed. That process should appear in the article's {{Articlehistory}}, i.e. as a minimum there should be a WP:GAN recording the award of GA-status and a following WP:GAR recording the removal of GA-status. Under personal reassessment the decision is made by one editor (which is what your comment appears to be about), but it should be made fairly against the criteria of WP:WIAGA by an editor without conflicts of interest (such as having made significant input to the article, involved in conflicts, etc). If, however, someone is removing GA-status from articles without undertaking a WP:GAR that is plainly wrong and an abuse. Pyrotec (talk) 20:21, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is one other point I should have made. The GA criteria was tightened up several years ago, so some of the early articles that gained GA status might not have been eligible under the current criteria. There was a project Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force/Sweeps to reassess these early GAs and the results can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force/Sweeps/Running total. So some article lost their GAs in that review, but it finished sometime ago. Pyrotec (talk) 20:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reading suggestions, I guess my 'concern' is that the classification process is pretty obscure for someone not initiated to this aspect of Wikipedia. Regarding assessment (not just GA) I'd like to see a presentation of 5W, who what where when why, as it stands there's a lot of scattered tidbits (like GA reading suggestions) but seem disconnected from the general assessment process. The point is it's not only relevant to contributors and reviewers, but also to readers. I think the presentation formats should be more transparent... but this is generalised sentiment about Wikipedia as a whole, the help and project and assessment pages are too complicated to navigate for non professional users... and fancy TOCs on the right should be discouraged :)--Tallard (talk) 20:41, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well GA and FA are "disconnected": they are English-language Wikipedia assessments not English-language Wikipedia Wiki Project assessments. "Stub", "Start", C class, and B class (and A class) are awarded by individual Wiki Projects (WPs) and the criteria are "published" by each WP (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Assessment for example) but they are quite similar (copy and paste jobs); some WPs don't accept C-class, so WP class-assessments may be different: because they were assessed at different times and the article has improved or been vandalised, the WP has not kept its assessment up todate, people sometimes get it wrong, some WPs rate an individual article as C-class but other don't use C-class. Only a few WPs use A-class.
To gain GA or FA and article has to be nominated on the English-language Wikipedia at WP:GAN or WP:FAC, as appropriate. A formal review is carried out in both cases and recorded. If an article gains GA or FA, then it is formally listed as a GA or FA and that assessment is almost always adopted by all the WPs claiming that article as being it their scope. Note: some articles appear on different language wikipeidas, so an English-language WP article could also have non-English-language GA-assessments (sorry I was not deliberately trying to make life difficult).
There was a scheme to make readers aware of the article assessments; and the GA-star and FA-star in the top right hand corner of the article is part of that process. Readers are also encouraged to look at the talkpage and the article history (some articles are heavily vandalised, so a "good" article may not be correct at any given time, it may not even be a good article, some articles are rubbish). I'm not sure what has happened to that "educating the reader" - my interest is mostly GAs, so when (if) I pass an nomination I added a green star to the article (and an assessment to its talkpage).
I don't work as an employee of Wikipedia, so I'm not a professional user... (in the sense of being a Wikipeida employee). I happen to be a Chartered professional, but that is "work" and I certainly don't mix work with wikipedia and I could not edit articles in work-time (but wikipedia is often used at work as a source of information). Finally, Sorry, Wikipedi now insists on "infoboxes" on the right hand side. An article is not likely to get to FA, probably not GA or B-class without an Infobox. Pyrotec (talk) 21:52, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors

Hello Tallard, a very warm welcome to the Guild of Copy Editors. We are pleased to have you join us!

To start, you may want to copy edit an article from our Requests page, or pick one from our backlog. If you need any assistance, feel free to leave a note on our talk page, or you can contact any of our coordinators. If you are new to copy editing, you may want to join our Mentorship program. Below, you will find list of useful links for your convenience.

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Let me know if you have any questions. We just finished out March Copy Edit Drive, but another one is scheduled for May. Cheers! Torchiest talkedits 03:36, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE drive newsletter

The Guild of Copy Editors – May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive


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GOCE elections

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I noticed you are a participant of the WikiProject Quebec.

The Outline of Quebec was created a few days ago and is under vigorous development. It fills a gap in Wikipedia's set of outlines. It is the 3rd outline to date about a Canadian province/territory.

Outlines form one of the subsystems of Wikipedia's contents navigation system. For more information on outlines, see Wikipedia:Outlines and Wikipedia:WikiProject Outlines.

The goals for the Outline of Quebec is to complete it to as high a standard of quality as possible, and to make it even better than the Outline of Saskatchewan and the Outline of British Columbia.

Once the Outline of Quebec is completed, it will provide an important example to others creating outlines for the remaining provinces and territories of Canada.

Please take a look at the outline to see if you can notice (and fill in) any missing topics. Pictures would also be nice (the rarer and the more interesting, the better).

Thank you.

Sincerely, The Transhumanist 10:38, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE drive invitation

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The latest GOCE backlog elimination drive is under way! It began on 1 July and so far 18 people have signed up to help us reduce the number of articles in need of copyediting.

This drive will give a 50% bonus for articles edited from the GOCE requests page. Although we have cleared the backlog of 2009 articles there are still 3,935 articles needing copyediting and any help, no matter how small, would be appreciated.

We are appealing to all GOCE members, and any other editors who wish to participate, to come and help us reduce the number of articles needing copyediting, as well as the backlog of requests. If you have not signed up yet, why not take a look at the current signatories and help us by adding your name and copyediting a few articles. Barnstars will be given to anyone who edits more than 4,000 words, with special awards for the top 5 in the categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words".

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Reviving collaboration on WikiProject Cuba?

I know this is a long shot, because your connection to WikiProject Cuba is pretty tangential, just one talk post, but maybe you'd be interested in helping me re-boot WikiProject Cuba after years of inactivity? Maybe? Check out this discussion on WikiProject Cuba, I'm trying to drum up some teamwork and collaboration to create an article on the Cuban Liberation Army. Despite the fact they won Cuban independence in the 1890s, they don't have their own article! If you, or anyone you know would be interested, reply on WikiProject Cuba, where there's also a link to my userspace where we're drafting the new article. Thanks for reading; hope you can help with Latin American history history, and help revive WikiProject Cuba!  :) NickDupree (talk) 18:37, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE drive newsletter

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their September 2011 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy editing backlog. The drive will begin on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on September 30 at 23:59 (UTC). We will be tracking the number of 2010 articles in the backlog, as we want to copy edit as many of those as possible. Please consider copy editing an article that was tagged in 2010. Barnstars will be given to anyone who edits more than 4,000 words, with special awards for the top 5 in the categories "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". See you at the drive! – Your drive coordinators: Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02, and SMasters.

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GOCE drive newsletter

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their November 2011 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on November 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on November 30 at 23:59 (UTC). We will be tracking the number of 2010 articles (and specifically will be targeting the oldest three months), as we want to copy edit as many of these as possible. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 5 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02, and SMasters.

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GOCE 2011 Year-End Report

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We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2011. Read all about these in the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report.

Highlights
  • Membership grows to 764 editors, an increase of 261
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Nice translation

I've looked at your translation about the Bird Studies Canada article on French Wikipedia and it looked good. Would you please do me a favor and translate the Ontario tobacco belt article into French for me? It's practically about the same region because the Bird Studies Canada is located in Norfolk County (and the heart of the Ontario tobacco belt)? GVnayR (talk) 17:05, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE March copy edit drive

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their March 2012 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on March 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on March 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goal for the drive will be to eliminate the remaining 2010 articles from the queue. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 5 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa, Stfg, and Coordinator emeritus SMasters. 19:54, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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GOCE March drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive update

GOCE March 2012 Backlog Elimination progress graphs

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter.

Participation: We have had 58 people sign up for this drive so far, which compares favorably with our last drive, and 27 have copy-edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us!

Progress report: Our target of completing the 2010 articles has almost been reached, with only 56 remaining of the 194 we had at the start of the drive. The last ones are always the most difficult, so thank you if you are able to help copy-edit any of the remaining articles. We have reduced the total backlog by 163 articles so far.

Special thanks: Special thanks to Stfg, who has been going through the backlog and doing some preliminary vetting of the articles—removing copyright violations, doing initial clean-up, and nominating some for deletion. This work has helped make the drive a more pleasant experience for all our volunteers.

Your drive coordinators – Dianna (talk), Stfg (talk), and Dank (talk)

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GOCE March drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive
GOCE March 2012 Backlog Elimination progress graph

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! This is the most successful drive we have had for quite a while. Here is your end-of-drive wrap-up newsletter.

Participation

Of the 70 people who signed up for this drive, 40 copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Special acknowledgement goes out to Lfstevens, who did over 200 articles, most of them in the last third of the drive, and topped all three leaderboard categories. You're a superstar! Stfg and others have been pre-checking the articles for quality and conformance to Wikipedia guidelines; some have been nominated for deletion or had some preliminary clean-up done to help make the copy-edit process more fun and appealing. Thanks to all who helped get those nasty last few articles out of the target months.

Progress report

During this drive we were successful in eliminating our target months—October, November, and December 2010—from the queue, and have now eliminated all the 2010 articles from our list. We were able to complete 500 articles this month! End-of-drive results and barnstar information can be found here.

When working on the backlog, please keep in mind that there are options other than copy-editing available; some articles may be candidates for deletion, or may not be suitable for copy-editing at this time for other reasons. The {{GOCEreviewed}} tag can be placed on any article you find to be totally uneditable, and you can nominate for deletion any that you discover to be copyright violations or completely unintelligible. If you need help deciding what to do, please contact any of the coordinators.

Thank you for participating in the March 2012 drive! All contributions are appreciated. Our next copy-edit drive will be in May.

Your drive coordinators – Dianna (Talk), Stfg (Talk), and Dank (talk)

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GOCE May copy edit drive

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their May 2012 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on May 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on May 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goal for the drive will be to eliminate January, February, and March 2011 from the queue. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 5 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa, and Stfg.

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GOCE May mid-drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter

Participation: Out of 49 people signed up for this drive so far, 26 have copy-edited at least one article. It's a smaller group than last drive, but we're making good progress. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Template:J

Progress report: We're on track to meet our targets for the drive, largely due to the efforts of Lfstevens and the others on the leaderboard. Thanks to all. We have reduced our target group of articles—January, February, and March 2011—by over half, and it looks like we will achieve that goal. Good progress is being made on the overall backlog as well, with over 500 articles copy-edited during the drive so far. The total backlog currently sits at around 3200 articles.

Hall of Fame: GOCE coordinator Diannaa was awarded a spot in the GOCE Hall of Fame this month! She has copy-edited over 1567 articles during these drives, and surpassed the 1,000,000-word mark on May 5. On to the second million! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa and Stfg

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GOCE May drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

Participation: Out of 54 people who signed up this drive, 32 copy-edited at least one article. Last drive's superstar, Lfstevens, again stood out, topping the leader board in all three categories and copy-editing over 700 articles. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We were once again successful in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog—while removing 1166 articles from the queue, the second-most in our history. The total backlog currently sits at around 2600 articles, down from 8323 when we started out just over two years ago.

Coodinator election: The six-month term for our third tranche of Guild coordinators will be expiring at the end of June. We will be accepting nominations for the fourth tranche of coordinators, who will also serve a six-month term. Nominations will open starting on June 5. For complete information, please have a look at the election page. – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa, and Stfg

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GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their July 2012 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on July 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on July 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to eliminate the articles tagged in April, May and June 2011 from the queue and to complete all requests placed before the end of June. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 6 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in April–June 2011", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa and Stfg.

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GOCE July 2012 mid-drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors July 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter

Participation: Out of 37 people signed up for this drive so far, 25 have copy-edited at least one article. It's a smaller group than last drive, but we're making good progress. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, every bit helps; if you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Template:J

Progress report: We're almost on track to meet our targets for the drive. Great work, guys. We have reduced our target group of articles—May, June, and July 2011—by about 40%, and the overall backlog has been reduced by 264 articles so far, to around 2500 articles.

Copy Edit of the Month: Starting in August, your best copy-editing work of the month will be eligible for fabulous prizes! See here for details. – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.

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GOCE July drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors July 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

Participation: Out of 45 people who signed up this drive, 31 have copy-edited at least one article. Lfstevens continues to carry most of the weight, having edited 360 articles and over a quarter of a million words already. Thanks to all who have participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, will be available early in August here.

Progress report: We are once again very close to achieving in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog. Only 35 such articles remain at press time. The total backlog currently sits at under 2400 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We are just two articles away from completing all requests made before July 2012 (both are in progress).

Copy Edit of the Month: Starting in August, you'll be able to submit your best copy-editing work for palaver, praise, and prizes. See here for details. – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.

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GOCE news and September drive invitation

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in its events:

  • The August 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is currently in the submissions stage. Submit your best August copy edit there before the end of the month. Submissions end, and discussion and voting begin, on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC).
  • September 2012 Backlog elimination drive is a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on September 30 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to copy edit the articles tagged longest ago and to complete all requests placed before the end of August. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits at least one article, and special awards will be given to the top six in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged longest ago", and "Longest article". This drive features a much easier signup process. We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.
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GOCE September activities

Reminders from the Guild of Copy Editors

A quick reminder of our current events:

  • The August 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the discussion and voting stage until midnight September 14 (UTC).
  • The September 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the submissions stage until midnight September 30 (UTC), when discussion and voting begin.
  • The September 2012 Backlog elimination drive is now underway! The event runs until midnight September 30 (UTC). The goal is to copy edit articles with the oldest tags and complete all requests placed before September. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who participates, with special awards given to the top five in the following categories: "Total articles", "Total words", "Total articles over 5,000 words", "Total articles tagged longest ago", and "Longest article". – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.

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GOCE mid-drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors September 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter

  • Participation: Out of 37 people signed up for this drive so far, 19 have copy-edited at least one article, about the same as the last drive. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, every bit helps; if you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Template:J
  • Progress report: We're almost on track to meet our targets for the drive. Great work, guys. We have reduced our target group of articles—August, September, and October 2011—by about 44%, and the overall backlog has been reduced by 58 articles so far, to around 2600 articles. The biggest difference between this drive and the previous one is a stronger focus on large articles, so total word counts are still comparable.
  • Don't forget about the Copy Edit of the Month contests! Voting for the August contest has been extended through the end of the month. You don't have to make a submission to vote!
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GOCE September 2012 drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors September 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

Participation: Out of 41 people who signed up this drive, 28 copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We achieved our primary goal of clearing July, August, September and October 2011 from the backlog. This means that, for the first time since the drives began, the backlog is less than a year. At least 677 tagged articles were copy edited, although 365 new ones were added during the month. The total backlog at the end of the month was 2341 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We completed all 54 requests outstanding before September 2012 as well as eight of those made in September.

Copy Edit of the Month: Voting is now over for the August 2012 competition, and prizes will be issued soon. The September 2012 contest is closed for submissions and open for voting. The October 2012 contest is now open for submissions. Everyone is welcome to submit entries and to vote.

– Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.

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GOCE fall newsletter

Fall Events from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in its events:

  • The October 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is currently in the submissions stage. Submit your best October copy edit there before the end of the month. Submissions end, and discussion and voting begin, on November 1 at 00:00 (UTC).
  • Voting is in progress for the September 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest. Everyone is welcome to vote, whether they have entered the contest or not.
  • NEW!! In the week from Sunday 21 October to Saturday 27 October, we are holding a Project Blitz, in which we will copy edit articles tagged with {{copyedit}} belonging to selected project(s). For the first blitz, we'll start with WikiProject Olympics and WikiProject Albums and add more Projects to the blitz as we clear them. The blitz works much like our bimonthly drives, but a bit simpler. Everyone is welcome to take part, and barnstars will be awarded.
  • November 2012 Backlog elimination drive is a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on November 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on November 30 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to copy edit all articles tagged in 2011 and to complete all requests placed before the end of October. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits at least one article, and special awards will be given to the top five in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in 2011", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.
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GOCE November 2012 copy edit drive update

Guild of Copy Editors November 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter

  • Participation: Out of 31 people signed up for this drive so far, 22 have copy-edited at least one article. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, every bit helps; if you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Template:J
  • Progress report: We're on track to meet our targets for the drive. We have reduced our target group of articles—November and December 2011—by over 50%, and 34 of the the 56 requests made in September and October this year have already been fulfilled. However, the rate of tagging for copy edit has increased, and this month we are just keeping the size of the backlog stable. So, all you copy editors, please do come along and help us!
  • The September 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest was won by Baffle gab1978 for his copy edit of Expulsion of the Acadians. Runner up was Gareth Griffith-Jones for his edit of I Could Fall in Love. Congratulations to both.
  • The October 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the discussion and voting stage until midnight November 30 (UTC). You don't have to make a submission to vote!
  • November 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the submissions stage until midnight November 30 (UTC), when discussion and voting begin.
  • Seasonal oversight: We had a slight fall from grace in the title of our last newletter, which mentioned the season in the northern hemisphere and thus got it wrong for the southern. Fortunately an observant GOCE member was ready to spring into action to advise us. Thanks! In future we'll stay meteorologically neutral.
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GOCE November drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors November 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

Participation: Thanks to all who participated! Out of 38 people who signed up this drive, 33 copy-edited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. All the barnstars have now been distributed.

Progress report: We achieved our primary goal of clearing November and December 2011 from the backlog. For the first time since the drives began, the backlog consists only of articles tagged in the current year. The total backlog at the end of the month was 2690 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We completed all 56 requests outstanding before November 2012 as well as eight of those made in November.

Copy Edit of the Month: Voting is now over for the October 2012 competition, and prizes have been issued. The November 2012 contest is closed for submissions and open for voting. The December 2012 contest is now open for submissions. Everyone is welcome to submit entries and to vote.

Coodinator election: The six-month term for our fourth tranche of Guild coordinators will expire at the end of December. Nominations are open for the fifth tranche of coordinators, who will serve from 1 January to 30 June 2013. For complete information, please have a look at the election page.

– Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.

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GOCE mid-December newsletter

End of Year Events from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in its events:

  • The December 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is currently in the submissions stage. Submit your best December copy edit there before the end of the month. Submissions end, and discussion and voting begin, on January 1 at 00:00 (UTC).
  • Voting is in progress for the November 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest. Everyone is welcome to vote, whether they have entered the contest or not.
  • From Sunday 16 December to Saturday 22 December, we are holding a Project Blitz, in which we will copy edit articles tagged with {{copyedit}} from January 2012. The blitz works much like our bimonthly drives, but a bit simpler. Everyone is welcome to take part, and barnstars will be awarded.
  • January 2013 Backlog elimination drive is a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on January 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on January 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to copy edit all articles tagged in January, February, and March 2012 and complete all requests placed before the end of 2012. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits at least one article, and special awards will be given to the top five in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in January, February, and March 2012", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.

Coodinator election: Nominations are open for candidates to serve as GOCE coordinators from 1 January to 30 June 2013. Nominations close on December 15 at 23:59 UTC, after which voting will run until the end of December. For complete information, please have a look at the election page.

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Can you record the word caisse with a Quebec accent please ? Fête (talk) 16:36, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]