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Edit request on 26 May 2012

Ben Kingsley plays the Mandarin

76.124.96.97 (talk) 15:36, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No he doesn't:[1], unless you have a source that says otherwise--Jac16888 Talk 15:56, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: as above Mdann52 (talk) 15:58, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some sources

Maybe this link could help to update this article, it was from the Marvel site: http://marvel.com/news/story/18821/first_official_iron_man_3_set_photo Happygoth09 (talk) 15:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I see why imdb is not a good source.

Because someone there has added casting credits for Iron Man 3 that includes Sam Elliott as Thunderbolt Ross, Rocky Carroll as the Falcon, and Regina Spektor as Yelena Belova. I believe none of those is correct since they are all busy. Sam Elliott was replaced as General Ross by William Hurt, Rocky is probably doing prep for NCIS and Regina is more likely on tour. In addition, there is no link to even support that the cast has been increased. All of this makes me understand why imdb is a terrible site to use in the context of linking to here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guidorulz (talk • contribs) 17:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Im the one who added those in an attemt to prove IMDb unreliabe. Let this be a lesson.NTC TNT (talk) 23:08, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rescue

Whatever the plot is and whoever the villain is, after what happened in Armored Adventures they'd better give Pepper her own armor. 74.69.214.197 (talk) 07:05, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maria Hill

I know that it has not yet been verified but with Coulson no longer around, it is logical that Maria Hill takes his place as Tony Stark's S.H.I.E.L.D. watchdog. Also, it has been stated that Cobie Smulders is signed on for 9 films(like the rest of the group). Despite all of that, I do hope Marvel follows through with keeping an agent or two in IM3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guidorulz (talk • contribs) 04:05, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gravitons POV/OR changes to the starring list.

Graviton continues to change the starring list without reason, but he has at least confessed his purpose by posting this on my talk page: "You stupid idiot STOP MAKING WOMEN SPOIL THE MOMENT BEFORE I HAVE TO COME FIND YOU!". His misogynistic attitude not withstanding, he has no basis for changing this list and is apparently doing it because women ruin the moment, whatever moment that is. It's been discussed in edit summaries, his talk page and now here, and by discussed I mean people have said it and he has ignored it until saying stuff like the above. This discussion is being added for others to give input and for a record of Graviton's activities for when this inevitably escalates to administrator intervention. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 18:26, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have reported Graviton at WP:AN/EW for violating the 3RR here. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:15, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, I really hate to say this, but Graviton is at it again, changing the casting order in the infobox. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:16, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And now we have Borxdeluxe making a similar change to the cast list four times in less than a day. With two separate notes in the article not to change it, edit summaries explaining why to not change it, and a message left on their talk page not to change it. Oy. -Fandraltastic (talk) 17:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think we should report Borxdeluxe to WP:AN/EW since he has violated the WP:3RR rule. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:57, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think that maybe we should remove the starring list entirely until a list is confirmed. I'd say gt it protected but that won't affect either editor, so in the meantime reporting him might help BUT it'd probably better to wait to see if he violates to 4th revert, 3 probably won't gain any real intervention.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 18:14, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, Borxdeluxe did and was blocked for 24 hours. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Filed report here. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:07, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks. I went ahead and used my third revert of the day restoring it to normal. Maybe we need some sort of semi-protection, as the vandalism/nonconstructive edits seems to be spiking recently. -Fandraltastic (talk) 18:09, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wang Xueqi

Is it better to link to the original Chinese source, rather than the article with an English report on the matter? I don't speak fluent enough Chinese to provide an accurate sentence-by-sentence translation, but I know enough to confirm that the article definitely confirms the actor and the role and says that the reports of Chinese actresses joining were false, and that filming in Beijing and Shanghai will happen in September. -Fandraltastic (talk) 23:35, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Chill out people

Look don't get too stiff! The least that can be done is have Don Cheadle 2nd, Ben Kingsley 3rd, and Gwyneth Paltrow 4th so that nobody has to irritate eachother. After all this is going to be an awesome movie, right?Mark (talk) 21:39, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I know. There is no basis on changing the casting order, and we should just wait until we have an official source to confirm the listing order. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:59, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The first three actors listed are in the same credit order as Iron Man 2. The rest are listed in the order they joined the cast. This is the best way to avoid WP:OR and WP:POV issues until an official listing is released by the studio. You've been asked to not change it a half dozen times, there are two notes in the actual article asking that it not be changed. It's been explained over and over and over. Please don't do it again. Your arbitrary rankings are not the "least that can be done", the least that can be done is leaving it be, per consensus and wikipedia policies, until we have a reason to change it. The only reason this is irritating to anyone is that you refuse to acknowledge that it's ordered the way it is for a reason, and keep changing it over and over and over. It's not constructive and it only makes it harder to keep the article clean. -Fandraltastic (talk) 01:15, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I know this is a bit of a delay, but as per MOS:Film, cast are listed in order of credits and in order they join the cast. MisterShiney ✉

Ten Rings

Is the Mandarin the leader of the Ten Rings?

Anonymous173.57.44.147 (talk) 00:27, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

YesLive Light (talk) 03:42, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No he isn't. The ten rings organisation isn't even mentioned, the symbol of ten rings is simply used. There is no terrorist organisation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.255.204.123 (talk) 02:26, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Size of Mandarin's Role

It says here that Mandarin's role is a behind the scenes villain, but its source is claiming that whilst also claiming Guy Pearce is the main villain. With that article being from May and Guy Pearce admitting that his role is essentially an extended cameo, shouldn't we delete the behind the scenes aspect of Mandarin? I know we don't know that much, but given that the source was essentially wrong about Guy Pearce, they seem to be wrong about Mandarin as well. Jaybling (talk) 19:13, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct. Went ahead and removed it. -Fandraltastic (talk) 15:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


April 2013 Release Date

so I just watched the trailer for Iron Man 3 and at the end it says that it has an April 2013 Release date and not a may 2013 release date as previously thought. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EjG-1U3wqA&feature=plcp should the page be edited to coincide with the trailer or what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.0.229.56 (talk) 16:38, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Coming from Marvel UK, I guess that's the UK release date. --Imroy (talk) 17:24, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The movie was released in Australia on April 25, 2013.

Studio, because people obviously can't take the hint. By people I mean person.

Read.

Co production, Marvel Studios, DMG Entertainment. No paramount. I know you have been told this multiple times Cuktdu, do it again and I'll just be asking for administrator intervention. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:17, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Filming in China

Is still scheduled, per the film's producer. A speculative report was placed in the article stating that it was cancelled. I'm going to remove, please don't readd without a firm source. Cheers. -Fandraltastic (talk) 02:04, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

William Sadler as "Sal Kennedy" in IM3

Source: http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0351689/

Truth to this for an Edit or no? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.30.121 (talk) 00:43, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

IMDb is not a reliable source.Richiekim (talk) 14:55, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Citing a PDF that automatically downloads to the user's computer

Hey, I found this PDF a while ago; it's from the Miami Beach Gov't and includes filming dates for the location (which is currently tagged with a citation needed template in the article). The problem is the PDF doesn't open in the user's browser, it automatically downloads to the hard drive. So I'm not sure what citation template/format to use. Anyone know? -Fandraltastic (talk) 20:18, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Add "format=pdf" as a field to the cite. Webcite will back it up also. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:19, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks. Should I mark it as a dead url so that the webcite in-browser link is the default one? -Fandraltastic (talk) 20:49, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That I don't know, never had any idea what deadurl did, thought it just pointed out to people that a ref was useless. Archiving is essential though, I used a PDF over at Fast Five from the official site which is the source for almost all the development info. I looked the other day and it was dead, now redirects to a site about the DVD, but the archive, she still rolls! Darkwarriorblake (talk) 21:29, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Dude! Archiving rules!
Have you guys gone to WebCitation in the last week or two? It's going to stop accepting cites at the end of the year if it doesn't raise $50K for new servers, etc. I contributed $25, and the total is only $1,100 so far. Let's spread the word to our Wiki colleagues to that WebCitation.org is in trouble and needs our help. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:57, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I started a discussion about it at WT:FILM. Apparently there is a proposal for the Wikimedia Foundation to save it.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 22:08, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

James Rhodes' Iron Patriot and War Machine

Official merchandising clearly refers to these armors as War Machine and Iron Patriot. Does this not count as being canon? The tie-in comics also refer to Rhode's armor as War Machine. Suzuku (talk) 19:55, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The armors all referenced in the cast section but the character has yet to use them as codenames on screen.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:20, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This didn't answer my question. Suzuku (talk) 05:58, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it did quite clearly, but for the sake of it, he is saying No. Merchandising and tie-ins often use names and items not in the film. Unless you want to cite Wing Attack Iron Man toy, Sonic Blast Iron Man toy and the space armor Iron Man toy in the article.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 10:51, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cast reordering?

According to this poster http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/530904_609691579047418_417629540_n.jpg, the cast order is: Robert Downey Jr, Gweneth Paltrow, Don Cheadle, Guy Pierce, and Ben Kingsley. Perhaps now is the time to change the ordering of the cast?Richiekim (talk) 13:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The current cast order comes from the official synopsis the studio has been releasing with the movie's trailers. It's actually the same order as that cast, just with more credits. Kingsley getting the "and" credit means he'll always be listed last on any cast list the studio puts out. -Fandraltastic (talk) 13:51, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cast Section

hello I noticed that on the Cast Section it says that Jing Wu and Stephanie Szostak have Unspecified Roles however both of there roles have been confirmed and you even have those roles on there Seperate Pages so I believe the Cast Section needs Updating to say that Jing Wu will be a 10 Rings Henchman and Szostak will be Ellen Brandt. both of there pages even say that they are playing these characters and those have been confirmed. so please update the cast Section to reflect this. 108.0.229.56 (talk) 19:24, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. Please provide a reliable source.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 19:36, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Szostak's role is confirmed in here, an official production pdf from Marvel's site. There's a bunch of other info that can be peppered in throughout the article, too. -Fandraltastic (talk) 19:45, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Good find. I don't recognize the domain of the source, but you are a very accomplished editor, so I'll take your word that its legit.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:09, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's the domain Marvel uses to host all of its files (e.g. this, this, or this). It's a play on one of their character's names. -Fandraltastic (talk) 20:16, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I see.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:20, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pepper in Armor

Marvel has recently released a new tv spot (can be see here) and with in it it confirms that Pepper is going to be wearing the armor, at least an Iron Man one. Should this be noted in the article at all at this time (I was thinking in the marketing section possibly) or should it be held off for the moment? Technically it can be added as Wikipedia does not deal with spoilers, in case any one felt that was a reason not to include it. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:05, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've already done this, since Marvel has posted an interview on its website featuring Gwyneth Paltrow confirming this. Richiekim (talk) 00:11, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Final movie

I have reverted an edit that said Iron Man 3 will be the final installment of the franchise. There wasn't a citation, but does anyone know if it will be the final one?Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 00:42, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Downey, Jr.'s contract for Iron man is up, but as it says in the future section, it may be extended for the Avengers 2 and another Iron Man movie. Downey himself said that "there's a couple other things we've gotta do" with his character. - Dracuns (talk) 12:57, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There is no way the series is going anywhere, it makes money and the MCU is pretty much built around Downey's popularity, plus they would be playing up this as "THE FINAL FILM: WILL IRON MAN DIE?!", I don't think they've even teased the possibility of him dying, and they won't since he will be in Avengers 2, so no, it's just a Red Link editor editing out of his ass. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 21:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Source - Interview with Hall

http://marvel.com/news/story/20374/iron_man_3_under_the_armor_with_rebecca_hall?LSID=6147125%7C10859501%7C1xgt94w877hfj , contains some plot stuff, character info, etc. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:30, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Title, Stan

Just came from a press screening. Giving no spoilers, but here are two pertinent things — neither of which we can use until corroborated by a published source, but just so we keep an eye out: The onscreen title, given at the end, is Iron Man Three, with the numeral spelled out. And Stan Lee has a cameo playing "Pageant judge." (Also, there's a two-person post-credit scene; can't say more than that.) --Tenebrae (talk) 18:09, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think Stan Lee's cameo has been sourced already in the article. And what you said about the post-credit scene keeps some of my theories intact and make me even more excited! But thanks for the heads up. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:07, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Set photos

The coverage of the things spotted in set photos in the filming section does not appear to encyclopedic. A year from now, I do think readers will care what was seen in a set photo, the film itself will do that. What matters is analysis of the things seen in the film and is what we should strive to include. As such, I think the coverage of the set photos should be removed.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 19:43, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, specifically some of the Iron Patriot stuff needs to be pruned. -Fandraltastic (talk) 20:18, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And of course, the poster art and now the production notes, which I've just received, use the numeral "3." Why the blazes couldn't they have used that onscreen as well? What is the point of Disney and Marvel calling it one thing on screen and another thing in the official notes? What was Shane Black and Drew Pearce's point for using "Three" onscreen. Are they just screwing with the fans? --Tenebrae (talk) 16:59, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Presale tickets

Is it notable enough and worth including in the Release section, that major movie companies (Regal and AMC) are witholding selling tickets for midnight premires because of a contract disputes with Disney? Source. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:53, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think so.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 01:06, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. I thought so, just wanted to check before I did anything. I'll add it to the article. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:19, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is, it speaks to Release I think, I covered it on... Tower Heist I think when certain chains refused to show it because the studio was going to put it on VOD simultaneously. And frankly, Disney's current method of doing business could do with being recorded somewhere anyway.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 18:56, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Don't forget the reliable sources though guys and girls. MisterShiney ✉ 20:46, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ALDRICH KILLIAN AS MANDARIN AND MARK RUFFALO AS HULK

There are numerous sources reporting that around the half-way point in the film, Aldrich Killian is revealed to be the true Mandarin and that Kingsley is a decoy. Even though the film wont be released in the United States until May 3rd, someone should still add this in the cast section. Also Marvel Movies Wiki is reporting that Mark Ruffalo will appear as Bruce Banner in a post credit scene so maybe you can add that too. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.2.174.132 (talk) 00:48, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is correct. I've been to the avant première yesterday (23 April). No post credit scene though.

I have seen the film in Australia and it contained a post-credits seen with Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner. I don't have a reliable source though. These are close though. Don't be alarmed when people add it to the article as they see it.. unfortunantely, still without a source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.78.244 (talk) 09:58, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Standard film template?

Just noticed the article doesn't seem to follow what I usually see when I look up films here. I don't KNOW that there is a standard template, but a "Premise" section instead of "Plot" seems very odd. 174.65.10.224 (talk) 03:00, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Plot

Per WP:FILMPLOT the plot summary should be between 400 and 700 words, so the current version needs to be trimmed some. I haven't seen the movie yet or I would help. Cheers. -Fandraltastic (talk) 16:18, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Real Mandarin

Does the plot indicate there is a real Mandarin, or is the Ten Rings not real in-universe?

Anonymous173.74.57.205 (talk) 19:23, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The New Year's flashback scene

I'm not happy with the current description of the plot, which mentions the New Year's Eve flashback scene at the very start of the section. I understand why it has been included here, because it was shown first in the film. However, I feel that it would serve the purpose of the article better if it were included further down the page, in the paragraph about Stark's first encounter with Killian. The reason for this is that Stark reaslises his actions on that night were directly responsible for setting Killian on the path he chose, and Stark blames himself for them. Therefore, the flashback is more relevant to that scene than the opening.

Furthermore, describing the flashbacks at the start of the section provides no context to their relevance later in the film, and the reader has to keep reading to understand what it means. There is nothing in the MOS that says recounts like this have to be done chronologically, and the MOS also emphasises clarity. I think it would be much clearer if the section was attached to the scene that it has the most relevance to. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 04:47, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Shaun Toub as Ho Yinsen cameo in New Year's scene

I'm pretty sure that I saw Shaun Toub as Ho Yinsen in the opening flashback when I watched the film. Can anybody confirm so that they could implement it in the "cast" section.

Aldrich Killian doesn't die.

Aldrich Killian only gets hit by Pepper Potts. You never see him die or anything of the like. Nothing of the sort is mentioned either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.21.107 (talk) 07:33, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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