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The Bugle: Issue LXXVIII, September 2012

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The Bugle: Issue LXXIX, October 2012

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New WP:AE discussion about Gibraltar

Please see WP:AE#Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Wee Curry Monster. The May 2011 sanction about Gibraltar named yourself (under a former name) as well as Wee Curry Monster. That AE led to a proposal for an RfC about the disputed matters. It appears that the RfC was never conducted, and admins may need to decide if an RfC should still be required before all the restrictions are lifted. You may find this whole matter of little concern if you are no longer planning to actively edit at Gibraltar. You may comment in the AE thread if you wish. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 14:55, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The appeal by Wee Curry Monster against the May 2011 Gibraltar restriction that was also imposed on you and two others is successful. Please see this result. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 03:15, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXX, November 2012

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXI, December 2012

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Re: User:Lukabeograd

Can you please file a WP:ANI or WP:AE report about it? I'd block them at this point, but I'd prefer someone else do it in order to avoid any impression of impropriety. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 13:11, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Egad, it looks like all they do is come back every six months and make the same disruptive changes. Well, it won't be hard to convince another admin to block them because the persistent single-purpose abuse is painfully obvious. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 13:14, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXXII, January 2013

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Notice DRN

Just letting you know I've requested assistance at Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute. Sorry I couldn't find the official template. Regards. Gaba p (talk) 13:52, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see its automatic. Never mind then. Regards. Gaba p (talk) 13:53, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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We're waiting on your response to Cabe's request for everyone to summarise their stance before we can go any further. CarrieVS (talk) 13:44, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXXIII, February 2013

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Hi

I opened a new section regarding your recent deletion of information to talk page of the article. I'll await your comments. Regards. Gaba (talk) 16:41, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXXIV, March 2013

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXV, April 2013

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Gone back to my roots

Fed up with a dialogue of the deaf, I've gone back to my roots. Good old content creation, remember that? [1] A work in progress, which I'd welcome your comments on. I can't find much in the way of information. Wee Curry Monster talk 15:04, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It looks good to me - plenty good enough for DYK. But I have a few thoughts:
I'd be a touch concerned that this identifies the wrong target for notability. I think it's worth considering, given that we don't have much to talk about regarding much of the rest of his life, whether it is Mestevier who is notable, or the mutiny that killed him. You avoid making it into a coatrack of Reassertion of British sovereignty over the Falkland Islands (1833), which is good.
On specifics, I think I'd start Esteban Mestivier was an Argentine military commander [or whatever] who is best known... - we don't normally start article with Esteban Mestivier is best known. On "the only such appointment to be properly gazetted" - presumably that includes Menéndez in 1982? And is gazetting particularly important in this case? It might be a good idea to be clearer on why this is a significant distinction to draw.
I'm not sure that the point that 1833 "prompted the start of the Falkland Islands sovereignty dispute" is as clear-cut as suggested - you could probably make a case for any one of a number of dates from the 1760s to the 1940s, depending on POV and definition. It might be better to emphasise that the islands have been under British control pretty much continuously since then?
Finally, we could probably do with converting the cites to be inline rather than using a list of sources. Kahastok talk 21:53, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Plan to do inline cites next. I tend to write up a text based on my notes, then go back and do inline cites afterward. I've done some copy editing as suggested. I also have a line on some primary source material from the BA archive to follow up. Thanks for the comments. Wee Curry Monster talk 11:58, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Farewell

Feel free to finish off the Mestivier article for me. Bye now. Wee Curry Monster talk 18:45, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXXVI, May 2013

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXVII, June 2013

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXVIII, July 2013

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Same old, same old

[2] Check the reference that is claimed not to mention the Falkland Islands. 192.35.35.40 (talk) 12:24, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my gosh Curry Monster,[3][4] what are you doing?? Why don't you just use your account?
What I'm "claiming" is that the rank number is completely made up, and mistakenly calculated. Am I wrong? If so, why? --Langus (t) 20:37, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, by "report" I meant this one. --Langus (t) 20:43, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Your claim is wrong. The rank number is not "completely made up". It comes directly from the source used for the data. There is no OR here.
Your point that the number is mistakenly calculated (you say, in your edit summary "0.933 would leave the islands in 4th place, between US and the Netherlands") is also itself mistaken: this calculation was based on the 2007 report. Starting in 2010, the calculation of Human Development Index changed resulting in lower numbers across the board. The number in the report is based on the old calculation.
So, my conclusion is that the justification for removal is mistaken.
Now, that's not to say we can't question it. I wonder, for example, whether we ought to be providing a number (44) that is generated from a completely different source from the numbers found on the other articles, on a different basis. As a result, it appears to contradict the numbers found elsewhere (notably Latvia, also at number 44). The lack of a date is also likely to lead to confusion as Langus demonstrates. The number isn't OR, but I am inclined to agree that it probably isn't appropriate. Kahastok talk 20:40, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Surely, thats (A) a matter for discussion regarding the template and (B) an argument for updating when new figures are released. Its not an argument for removing sourced material added in good faith following the template guidelines. 192.35.35.40 (talk) 11:56, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is just a matter of framing it correctly, if it is statistics. It is easy to slant a statistical ranking if you aren't careful, to try and tell a story with the results. --Narson ~ Talk • 12:00, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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