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United States Olympic FLC

Just a heads up that the United States Olympic ice hockey players FLC could use some more sets of eyes, if anyone can help, I'd appreciate it, thanks. Anthony (talk) 13:08, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Still looking for more editors to review this FLC - it's one of the oldest ones still going. Thanks, Anthony (talk) 18:02, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Shinny and Pond hockey

The pages Shinny and Pond hockey each describe an informal variation of ice hockey, and each page allows that its title is a synonym for the other. If these are two different things, the differences should be made clear in each article. If they are two different names for the same thing, the pages should be merged. Cnilep (talk) 07:41, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think they are separate entities, in the sense that I can't think of an umbrella term for both of them, unless they go in the main ice hockey article. Shinny can be played on a pond, but also anywhere else. Pond hockey can be a formal game (not really shinny) played outside. I think they are variations on a theme, rather than strict synonyms, in the sense that I wouldn't ever use the terms interchangeably. Canada Hky (talk) 23:59, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Flames honored number program

Is the Flames program to honor numbers intended to be done instead of retiring them, Like in Toronto; or is it a two tier system, like in St. Louis, where some of their great players have their numbers honored, and the most elite have them retired? This program seems unclear to me. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 22:09, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is unclear to everyone, really, until they start adding more players and we get a better sense of things. The team stated at the time that The "Forever a Flame" program has replaced the retiring of numbers entirely. It is the top honour going forward. That does not affect the official retirement of McDonald and Vernon's numbers. Nor, likely, will it affect the unofficial retirement of 12 and 14. The Flames organization has also transferred the idea to the other teams they own - Kaleb Toth is the first member of the "Forever a Roughneck" program, for instance. Resolute 22:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So the Blues are the only team that has an honored number program that also retires numbers for the most elite? This would be good to mention in the article List of NHL retired numbers. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 23:54, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If there is an article or publication that makes that statement, absolutely! Resolute 14:54, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

TV and radio broadcasts of Nordiques games in English

Did the Nordiques have TV and radio broadcasts of their games in English in Quebec City? The article says that there has only been one privately-owned English local TV station and no privately-owned English radio stations, but it doesn't say whether games were aired locally in English or not. XEWW AM 690, a Spanish news/talk radio station, airs local broadcasts of USC football games in English when there is a conflict with a Los Angeles Lakers basketball game on KSPN AM 710. Does anyone know if there were broadcasts of Nordiques games in English on French stations in Quebec City? This would give the article more detail. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 07:34, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Through most of the 80's and 90's CFAP was the rights holder, and they are French only. My understanding is that the only English games were CBC Saturday games from Montreal received by cable subscribers. Not sure if that is helpful at all.18abruce (talk) 10:20, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Following a long running (albeit lightly commented) split discussion at Talk:NHL Winter Classic, I've completed a split of this article into NHL outdoor games that can feature as an overview on all three of the NHL's outdoor series. I'll pick up NHL Heritage Classic and move it past stub status, but this new article, and the Winter Classic article can both use some cleanup and assistance from interested editors. Resolute 01:22, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Featured content nominations in need of your review and input

The following articles are currently up for Featured status nomination:

Your review and input in these discussions would be greatly appreciated. Also, if there are other articles up for review, please list them here as well. Regards, Rejectwater (talk) 01:42, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Henderson and List of Olympic men's ice hockey players for the United States have both been promoted. Good jobs by @Resolute: and @FutureNJGov:. Regards, Rejectwater (talk) 00:49, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The US Olympic list hasn't been promoted yet, but I appreciate the support nonetheless haha. Anthony (talk) 17:58, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it was moved to Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Featured log at 16:23, 22 November 2013‎ and listed at Wikipedia:Featured lists a few minutes later. The bot that usually archives the discussion, updates the article talk page, and adds the star to the article is broken, so those things haven't happened yet, but it has been promoted. Once again, congratulations, and good work. Regards, Rejectwater (talk) 22:17, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In case you have any lingering doubts, it's also listed in the closure log as promoted at Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. I went ahead and updated the article and talk pages manually due to the bot issues. Regards, Rejectwater (talk) 22:28, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Pro hockey team

Would someone please expand the “Championships” section of Template:Pro hockey team to include a field for the Adams Cup as CPHL/CHL champions. Dolovis (talk) 22:17, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

does this work? Frietjes (talk) 23:50, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As a work-a-round it works fine. Thank you. But I would still like to see the field added to the template if possible. Dolovis (talk) 19:05, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I think it might make more sense to go the other way and remove the trophy specific fields in favour of the customizable ones. Allows us to custom configure for any future scenario. That said, I do say this knowing it would be a fair bit of work and that I am personally unlikely to perform much of it, so feel free to disregard my comment. Resolute 23:25, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war on player stats 2013-14 updates

Can we please get some extra eyes on Lane MacDermid and Tim Jackman. User:Triggerbit is showing a strong intent to disregard the long standing ice hockey policy that player stats be updated only after the end of the current year. He has now twice thrice added stats for these two players to show their stats through the first few games of the 2013-14 season. Or am I misinformed on how this policy is to be effected? Dolovis (talk) 19:56, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

the idea of adding stats once a player has been traded and no longer in the organization, has been used for many many seasons dude.. and one revert does not make a edit war.. Triggerbit (talk) 20:05, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Triggerbit is right, we update players who move teams as soon as they move because the stats no longer update and are finalized. We use the same idea at the end of the regular season on team pages where we put on the regular season results but don't yet update the playoffs until the team is out. This practice has been going on for years. -DJSasso (talk) 20:07, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

three edits (the original bold edit, and two reverts) does make an edit war (see WP:BRD, its not BRRD), but as I have already stated, if I am misinformed about the ice hockey project's policy concerning mid-season updates in the event of trades, then I am happy to be enlightend. Dolovis, aka "dude" (talk) 20:14, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As a general rule, I prefer that all updates wait until the end of the season, but when people have updated stats for mid-season trades, I also let those lie. It is, at least, not as confusing as day to day updates. Resolute 23:23, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can see it either way, but personally would prefer to wait for the end of the season. Who knows, maybe some guy gets traded back to his original club. It could happen. Rejectwater (talk) 00:52, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I believe there is a rule preventing trades back to the same team during the same season. I remember the Calgary Flames & Colorado Avalanche being penalized for doing it by mistake a few years back causing the Dean McAmmond to have to sit out the rest of the season. So it wouldn't likely happen. -DJSasso (talk) 15:34, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
According to this thread there used to be a rule regarding trades immediately preceding the waiver draft in the older CBA (now gone with the elimination of the waiver draft), and players claimed on waivers have to be waived again before being traded. isaacl (talk) 17:02, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Can a player be waived multiple times in the same season? Can a player who was picked up on waivers later be traded to the team that waived him? Unlikely, sure, but I imagine there is some scenario that could result in someone playing for one team in two different stretches of the same season, while playing for some other team in between. Rejectwater (talk) 01:23, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As I understand, a player must clear waivers whenever his team wants to change his status and the collective bargaining agreement requires all other teams to waive a claim to him, so this can happen as often as required. Based on the thread I mentioned, there are no restrictions on teams involved in a trade. isaacl (talk) 01:46, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The practice of mid-season updating of career statistics should be discouraged, regardless of whether a player has moved teams or not. The existence of some articles with mid-season updates only serves to encourage other editors to also perform mid-season updates. Dolovis (talk) 18:38, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If your concerned about it you might want to keep an eye on the current coaches and GMs. There's an IP that's been adding the current season to them.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 18:48, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, 99.231.151.46 has been hitting them up... Echoedmyron (talk) 13:00, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just an additional FYI, I removed the Panthers stats from Kris Versteeg as they have become problematic due to an IPs changing them to Blackhawks or constantly adding a Hawks line. --Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 04:21, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ducks alternate captains while Saku Koivu is injured

I noticed by watching games that the Ducks are using Corey Perry as an interim alternate captain while Koivu is injured. Should I add an "A" to the roster template for him until Koivu returns? 108.0.244.168 (talk) 07:02, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The roles of team Captain and Alternates are given to the players by management, and are not usually taken away just because of an injury. The official team website at NHL.com[1] still lists Koivu with the "A"; so do not change the roster template just because the "A" has been sewn to Perry's sweater for a few games. Dolovis (talk) 21:45, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
NHL.com seems hypocritical. NHL.com[2] has an "A" for Mike Richards as an alternate captain even though he is only serving as an interim alternate captain while Matt Greene is out. NHL.com rosters seem to be inconsistent when interim alternate captains are appointed. Why not keep the "A" on the template until the regular one returns or never have an "A" even when NHL.com has one? 108.0.244.168 (talk) 06:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Koivu returned last night. Hwy43 (talk) 17:44, 30 November 2013
I saw that and removed the "A". I never took the "A" away from Koivu on the template. I left it there and temporarily also put an "A" next to Perry's name. What should be done with the Kings template with Mike Richards then? Should an extra letter be put next to Richards on the template or not? 108.0.244.168 (talk) 18:21, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:Verifiability, follow what is listed at NHL.com, which can be considered a reliable source. Dolovis (talk) 14:33, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
NHL.com is not consistent when listing interim captains and alternate captains with the team sites. Is it better to use the same standards for the same type of circumstances, or is it better to be incosistent with the articles like NHL.com is? Is citing pictures and articles from NHL.com a reliable method instead of using NHL.com team site rosters? 108.0.244.168 (talk) 01:42, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There's a difference between wearing the alternate 'A' for a game and being officially named a team alternate. If the article is about the game, then who wore the 'A' is noteworthy. But if the article is about the team or a listing of alternates, then merely wearing the 'A' for certain games is unimportant trivia. For this case follow the official team references, if they take the effort to officially name a replacement alternate then he's a team alternate, if they don't then he's not. 76.64.216.136 (talk) 02:26, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
NHL.com[3] doesn't list an "A" next to Scottie Upshall, yet their new coach named him an official team alternate. What should be done about this on the Panthers roster template? 108.0.244.168 (talk) 08:07, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
To repeat what has been mentioned to you numerous times on numerous topics. You need a reference. If the team website isn't listing him as an official A then he probably isn't one yet. You always need a source. -DJSasso (talk) 14:25, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I do have a reliable source. It is here[4]. The NHL.com rosters are inconsistent. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 19:23, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note that link confirms he was wearing an 'A', it doesn't indicate that he has been named an official team alternate. Please see my earlier comment. There's no need for them to officially replace Jovanovski. 76.64.216.136 (talk) 04:37, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody is replacing Jovanovski. Jovanovski is still the captain. It is just that Upshall is now a third alternate captain, along with Campbell and Goc, with Jovanovski as captain. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 09:17, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Upshall is wearing the alternate captain 'A' in games, however you haven't provided evidence that he has been officially named an alternate captain of the team. 76.64.216.136 (talk) 09:43, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed NHL.com has since updated the roster. He is now listed with an 'A'. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 21:25, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please contribute to a discussion on amending MOS language with respect to date formats

Hello - there is currently a discussion underway at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Date range redux to come to a final resolution the way dates for club tenure in infoboxs are displayed (e.g. - with a club from 2001–2007 or 2001–07). If you have an opinion one way or the other, please take part. The value in coming to a final resolution (either having language added to allow 8 digit date spans for this purpose or expressly forbidding it) is that it would provide certainty to these cases and stop needless reverting of this format one way or the other. If you do take part, please be sure to ground your arguments/opinions in fact, Wikipedia precedent and real world examples as opposed to preference only as this will help the project make the right call. There are thousands of articles (touched by thousands of editors) that use summary club tenure information in infoboxes, so there is clearly an advantage to settling it in a clear manner so all can comply. Thanks! Rikster2 (talk) 04:27, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Russian Olympic peer review

Hey guys, I've started a PR for List of Olympic men's ice hockey players for Russia here. Any and all comments are welcome before I submit it to FLC - the plan is to get the Big Seven done before Sochi :) Anthony (talk) 21:32, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Possible issues regarding NHL lawsuit

As some of you may have heard, 10 former NHL player filed a lawsuit against the league today regarding concussions. In the interests of those 10 players and BLP concerns, I think it may be important we keep an eye on their pages. I don't anticipate any issues, but who knows how some people may act. As I understand, the 10 players are:

Like I said, I don't think there should be any problems; most of these guys are not what I'd call notable; however it could be an issue, and I don't think any of us want to deal with that. Kaiser matias (talk) 00:23, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dmitry/Dmitri Korobov

Could someone please enlighten me on why some reliable sources contradict one another on the spelling of Dmitri Korobov's first name? Is this like how defense/defence are both acceptable spellings? Tampabay721 (talk) 06:24, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They are both acceptable spellings. They are just different Latin alphabet interpretations of the Cyrillic spelling of his name. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 10:03, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yup. The IIHF, for instance, began an effort to standardize how it transliterates names from foreign alphabets a couple years ago that resulted in quite a few changes to their published names. Resolute 22:18, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:RUS, I think it should be "Dmitry", see –ый endings. HandsomeFella (talk) 23:30, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What makes this worse is that the IIHF decided in all of their wisdom to make up their own system, instead of following Russia's actual official passport system.--Львівське (говорити) 03:55, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Should this policy be used for him? He is not Russian, but Belarusian. Should it be the same or different romanization policy for Belarusian? 108.0.244.168 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:50, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
His name in Belarusian is actually Dzmitry. Bear with me, this goes for Ukrainian players too (so I'm familiar...) but they translated his name from Belarusian to Russian, and then transliterated it from Russian Cyrillic to Latin text. Double conversion, messy stuff. example: Sergei Kostitsyn, name in Belarusian would be "Siarhiej Kaścicyn" --Львівське (говорити) 03:55, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
According to BGN/PCGN romanization of Belarusian, the romanization should be "Dzmitry Korabaw" and Sergei Kostitsyn should be "Syarhyey Kastsitsyn". Why does the NHL and IIHF even use Russian translations when they are Belarusian? It makes these articles harder to correct. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 05:02, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's the BGN/PCGN guide, which is the US/UK system from 1979. I was using Belarus' system. To answer your question: because they play in Russia and the NHL/IIHF just looks at the Russian language roster sheets; and Russia doesn't accommodate for the other East-Slavic languages and rather converts it to their language (chauvanism?). --Львівське (говорити) 06:55, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What is acceptable for Wikipedia is what is WP:Verifiable. Original research is not acceptable for inclusion within Wikipedia articles. The verifiable spellings for his name are:

Given that most reliable sources show his name as Dmitry, the article should be moved accordingly. Dolovis (talk) 06:49, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Dolovis that it should at Dmitry Korobov, as it's the most commonly used transliteration of the name. The transliteration of Belarussian is a trainwreck, especially as the Russian version of the name often becomes transliterated to English. To expand on that point, note how the other Wikipedias transliterate the name:
  • German: Dsmitry Korabau
  • French: Dzmitry Korabaw
  • Latvian: Dmitrijs Korobovs (ignoring Latvian naming customs, it's still another way of transliteration)
  • Swedish: Dzmitryj Korabaŭ (looks like Lacinka and not necessarily a transliteration).

And Russian and Ukraine use their own version of the names Dmitri and Nikolai... Maxim(talk) 15:24, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed to download Flickr images

Help is needed to download photos from Flickr to the Commons. A collective effort is needed as it would be too much worl for a single editor to take on (unless there is an automated uploading system that I am unaware of).

Photographer Sarah Connors has uploaded to Flickr a large collection of high quality Creative Commons 3.0 photographs of mostly Bruins and American Hockey Leaue players (her sets can be found here). Most of these players have Wikipedia articles which could use these images, and it would be very helpful to the ice hockey project if we could collectively upload her photos to Wikimedia Commons. If you are able to help, then please pick one of her sets to upload, and then leave a message here to say what you have done, so we can get all of her photos uploaded without duplicating the work of others. Dolovis (talk) 16:41, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of "Dave" from Dave Taylor (ice hockey)‎ article

Marc87 has removed the name, "Dave" from Dave Taylor (ice hockey), despite the fact it is the name the subject of this article is best known as, both as an NHL player and now, as an NHL executive. Unless there's a reason or Wikipedia policy that I'm not aware of, this edit should be reverted. However, since my next reversion would cause a 3RR violation, I am unable to do so. I am wondering what the justification is for removal of "Dave" from this article, since the editor has provided no justfication for doing so. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 09:22, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Generally in the first line of the article we list the full name. Because Dave is just a short form of David its not usual that we list it like David "Dave" Taylor like we would Maurice "The Rocket" Richard. So he was probably correct in removing it from the full name listing in the article. But I have no strong opinion on it. -DJSasso (talk) 14:13, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Marc87's edit warring on Dave Taylor (ice hockey) appears to be a clear violation of The three-revert rule, and he should be appropriately warned that he may be subject to sanctions if this is brought to the attention of WP:ANI. I urge Gmatsuda to not continue this edit war because you may also be subject to the same sanctions. The proper procedure to follow is BOLD, revert, discuss, and I strongly suggest that if you continue to feel strongly about this issue that you open a discussion at the article's talk page. Dolovis (talk) 20:39, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, but as I mentioned above, I'm already aware of the 3RR rule. Also, I'm step ahead of you in opening a discussion on the article's talk page. So far, he hasn't responded. As for DjSasso's reply above...but if the article title uses "Dave," why wouldn't you use it in the first line of the article? -- Gmatsuda (talk) 21:59, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In answer to your question I refer you to WP:MOSBIO, and specifically to the section Names, where it explains that while the article title should generally be the name by which the subject is most commonly known, the subject's full name should be given in the lead paragraph – followed by several examples, including the example for Bill Clinton of “William Jefferson "Bill" Clinton”. I think that the example can be differentiated from your concern about Dave Taylor because there is no confusion for the reader that “Dave” is a short for of “David”, while it may not be as clear to all readers that “Bill” is a short form of “William”. Dolovis (talk) 22:42, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm inclined to agree with Dolovis and DJSasso here. There is no need to list "Dave" as if it was a nickname as it is patently obvious that "Dave" is just the shortened form of David. Resolute 22:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It may not be so obvious for non-native speakers. And making sure to include it it a simple way to make clear that he goes by the short form and the article is at the correct title. It seems to me that it is perfectly analogous to the Bill Clinton example cited in the guideline. Yes, "Bill" isn't quite as obvious of a nickname for "William" as "Dave" is for "David" ("Dave" is more analogous to "Will"), but it's still the same deal. So, I say we should include it. And as my name is David, I speak from experience. oknazevad (talk) 18:10, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hamilton Bulldogs and Lake Erie Monsters

The other day I went to the game at the Copps Coliseum... I took my camera with me and I've uploaded 27 images from that game that could be of use to people who specialize in player articles (ie User:Dolovis):

File:Trevor Cheek.jpg, File:Russ Sinkewich.jpg, File:Morgan Ellis.jpg, File:Joonas Nattinen.jpg, File:Mikael Tam.jpg, File:Martin St. Pierre Hamilton.jpg, File:Christian Thomas.jpg, File:Mike Blunden.jpg, File:Stephan MacAulay.jpg, File:Gabriel Desjardins.jpg, File:Guillaume Desbiens Lake Erie.jpg, File:JT Wyman.jpg, File:Matt Hunwick Lake Erie.jpg, File:Markus Lauridsen.jpg, File:Jarred Tinordi Hamilton 2013.jpg, File:David van der Gulik.jpg, File:Drew Schiestel.jpg , File:Mark Olver.jpg, File:Jordan Owens.jpg, File:Daniel Maggio.jpg, File:Gabriel Dumont.jpg, File:Joey Hishon Lake Erie.jpg, File:Stefan Elliott.jpg, File:Maxime Macenauer.jpg, File:Sami Aittokallio Lake Erie 2013.jpg, File:Calvin Pickard Lake Erie 2013.jpg, and File:Dustin Tokarski Hamilton 2013.jpg.

I also have some images of an ECHL game from 2012 between Toledo and Kalamazoo that I'll comb through for viable images... DMighton (talk) 20:11, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It would be easier if you could upload your photos to the Commons, rather than directly to Wikipedia. Dolovis (talk) 20:48, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They are on commons... DMighton (talk) 21:03, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your uploads[5]. You take very good photos, and I look forward to seeing more of your work. Cheers! Dolovis (talk) 21:22, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you... I am mostly focused on CIS, Jr. B, Jr. C, and PWHL... but every once in a while I get out to a pro game... no prob. DMighton (talk) 21:26, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And as promised my pics from the Toldeo/Kalamazoo game:

File:Petr Mrazek Toledo 2012.jpg, File:Joel Martin Kalamazoo 2012.jpg, File:Brett Lysak.jpg, File:Cody Lampl.jpg, File:Darren Archibald Kalamazoo 2012.JPG, File:Joey Ryan.JPG, File:Elgin Reid.JPG, File:Nick Sirota.JPG , File:Phil Oreskovic.jpg, File:Phil Rauch.jpg, File:Prab Rai.JPG, File:Randy Rowe.JPG, File:Sam Ftorek.JPG, File:Travis Novak.JPG, File:Wes O'Neill.jpg, File:Willie Coetzee.JPG. DMighton (talk) 01:59, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

MHL article naming

A user has renamed 2013–14 MHL season to 2013–14 Maritime Junior A Hockey League season presumably to make room for a seasonal article for the Russian MHL... The Maritimers were calling their league the MJAHL up until a season and a half ago I think... would it be better to just go with 2013–14 MJAHL season? Looking for ideas here... DMighton (talk) 17:55, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thank ye. DMighton (talk) 15:51, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Former retired numbers

When the #7 "We are all Canucks" banner honoring Canucks fans (which was later taken down) was put up, was the number 7 being "retired" or just "honored"? 108.0.244.168 (talk) 10:34, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Neither. It was just a banner calling the fans the 7th player. It wasn't a number in the sense of a jersey. -DJSasso (talk) 13:53, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What is this being sold on ebay? This lists #7 as a retired number at the time of the 2009-10 season. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 19:06, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly a mistake by the sticker company I am not sure. What you can do is email the team and ask. Or do a search of news archives and team media guides. -DJSasso (talk) 19:22, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody wore #7 when the banner was up from 2008-2010. Was this product is officially licensed by the Canucks or not? Was it a mistake? Does anyone else know? 108.0.244.168 (talk) 19:54, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]