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Speedy deletion nomination of Hotel de France (Le Mans / La Chartre sur le Loir)

Hello Derek Fulk,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Hotel de France (Le Mans / La Chartre sur le Loir) for deletion, because it seems to be promotional, rather than an encyclopedia article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Ujjwal234goel (talk) 16:56, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]




The Hotel de france is an iconic historic art deco hotel in La Chartre Sur Le Loir at 20, place de la République. The Hotel opened for business in c 1920 The logo emblazened across the front is in a classic art deco style. The hotel is 27 miles outside of le Mans. It used to be the head quaters for the Le Mans 24 Hr Motor Racing Teams. The hotel is full of motor racing history. It had a garage on the side for the mechanics to fettle with the cars and it has been run by the same family for the past four generations. It is a meca for fans of the "24 heures du Mans" races. It is a live museum, its walls are covered with photos of races from the past. Most of them are signed by the car racers themselves and for many years the place was where the "Aston Martin" and Gulf Oil team met.


It was frequented by famous racing drivers and team mangers and celebrities such as.

John Wyer,

Derek Bell,

Justin Bell,

David Piper,

Jo Siffert,

Vern Schuppan,

Jacky Ickx,

Richard Attwood,

Mike Salmon,

Brian Redman,

David Hobbs,

Pedro Rodriguez,

Jackie Oliver,

jean Pierre Jaussaud,

Innes Ireland,

Jo Schlesser,

Maurice Trintignant,

John Whitmore,

Graham Hill,

jack Fairman,

Roy Salvadori,

Reg Parnell,

Lucien Bianchi,

Stirling Moss,

Carroll Shelby,

Olivier Gendebien,

Phil Hill,

Jacques Laffite,

Tony Brooks,

jochen Rindt,

peter Collins,

Paul Frere,

Jackie Stewart,

Guy Ligier,

Jean-Pierre Jarier,

Francois Migault,

Mike Hailwood,

Bruce Mclaren,

Mario Andretti,

Briggs Cunningham.

Steve McQueen,

Pierre Sallinger(kennedy press secretary), Children of both John F Kennedy and Robert Kennedy, Prince Bertil of Sweden, Frank Williams, President Rene Coty of France,


1953 John Wyer discovered The Hotel de France, a 50 minute drive in the Le Mans circuit, It became his team's base for the 24 hour race for as long as he remained actively involved in motor racing. Before he worked for Ford (and later himself), John Wyer managed the Aston Martin racing team in the 1950's. He was well-known for running a tight ship. Anything less than meticulous preparation was not tolerated and drivers who failed to follow team orders were fired. (This was in an era when drivers wore their egos on their sleeves, and would have been puzzled if told that they needed to brush up on their sponsorship skills.) Wyer also insisted that the entire team (managers, mechanics, drivers) stay together in the same hotel when abroad. He believed it built team spirit.


1959 Wyer won the the 24 Hour lemans was his first victory in his tenth aniversary as Aston Martin team manager, helping Carroll Shelby and Roy Salvadori win with the DBR1 Winning Le Mans was the main goal of Aston Martin's owner, David Brown. It took them seven years, but everything came right in 1959 when Ferrari imploded and Aston-Martin finished 1-2, two laps ahead of the third place car with the DBR1's. Carroll Shelby, who was never heard from again, co-drove the winning car with Roy Salvadori (who really was rarely heard from again).


Wyer's taste for fine dining was also well-known. He sought out good hotels. The deal-clincher was food and drink. In some years, he took scouting trips in late winter only to select a place to stay near that season's races. "It was a dirty job..."


For Le Mans, the team always stayed at the Hotel de France in La Chartre sur-le-Loir. It was 27 miles south of the track--another benefit as far as Wyer was concerned: no distractions. The team was there for as long as two weeks before the race. Through that period, the automobiles would be tended within the courtyard, and driven to and from the circuit on the public road for practice and race. This practice was maintained for many years and as much as and which includes the 1970 event when the orange suited Gulf mechanics drove the three Stuttgart owned, blue and orange Porsche 917s towards the circuit on the road for the extremely final time.


There was quite a party at the Hotel de France that night.


"Above all, Le Mans is an engine breaker," Wyer said "There is no premium on roadholding there. It is moderately hard on brakes, chiefly because it is 24 hours long, and once every lap, at Mulsanne corner, the brakes have to get the car down from 200 mph to 40. But what really beats up the car is Mulsanne straight. The straight is so long that the engine is going at maximum power and load for just under a minute—say 55 seconds. No other circuit in the world has anything like this." The hotels garage was used to tend to the three squat five-liter GT40s, The DBR1 and the Porsche 917's.


In the prerace time trials the factory Porsches finished one, two, three and seven, the fastest being a lap by Jo Siffert in car No. 31 in 3:35.4, over 140 mph. Wyer, however, was not too worried. The day before the race he took lunch at the hotel in La Chartre-sur-le-Loire, 30 miles south of Le Mans, and looked at the trial times while mechanics worked on the cars in the Garage down the side of the hotel.


"We just try to see what the car can handle comfortably," he said. " Porsche usually goes flat-out. Pushing just a little harder, we should be able to handle them."


1975 Wyers last win at Le Mans. The race was won by Derek Bell and Jacky Iccs in their Mirage GR8 with a cosworth DFV Engine.


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Speedy deletion nomination of Hotel de France (Le Mans / La Chartre Sur la Louire)

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A tag has been placed on Hotel de France (Le Mans / La Chartre Sur la Louire), requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

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Speedy deletion nomination of Hotel de France (Le Mans / La Chartre sur le Loir)

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Hotel de France (Le Mans / La Chartre sur le Loir) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Hotel de France (Le Mans / La Chartre Sur la Louire)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, introducing inappropriate pages, such as Hotel de France (Le Mans / La Chartre Sur la Louire), is not in accordance with our policies. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. The page has been nominated for deletion, in accordance with Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Glaisher [talk] 16:12, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hotel de France

If you carry on re-adding this article without it meeting the minimum standards for a Wikipedia article, then the end result is not likely to be an article on the hotel but you being blocked from editing. You've started a draft in your sandbox which I have now moved to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Hotel de France (Le Mans / La Chartre Sur la Louire) - I suggest you work on that and bring it to the necessary standard. At the moment it is nowhere near the required standard as it tells the reader virtually nothing about the hotel and is little more than a list of people who have stayed there and where it is in relation to the Le Mans circuit. Have a look at some other articles on hotels to see how they are written, what information they contain and most importantly what has been written about them elsewhere, these independent references are essential to an article being maintained on Wikipedia. NtheP (talk) 17:26, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Hotel De France (La Chartre-sur-le-Loir) (November 26)

Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. The submission has not been accepted because it included copyrighted information, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work.

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 20:33, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Sandbox

When you created your most recent draft at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Hotel De France (La Chartre-sur-le-Loir) you said that you hoped that it was a sandbox. It wasn't, but I've moved it to User:Derek Fulk/Hotel De France (La Chartre-sur-le-Loir) for you, and removed the stale AFC submission template which was presumably left from a previous version. You can carry on working on it there until you are ready to submit it for formal review. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:37, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I notice, however, that you already have another draft awaiting review at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Hotel de France (Le Mans / La Chartre Sur la Louire). It will waste your time, and that of reviewers, to work on more than one draft at a time. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:43, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David,

I just need someone to proof reed it and help me get it up live... once its done i wont need to fiddle with it again. The hotel has some great history over the last 100 years... i want it to be up on line for my children and their children etc...

If you can help it would be appreciated... some real anoracks come on here and just delete everything... im getting very frustrated that no one helps... :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derek Fulk (talk • contribs) 16:45, 29 November 2013‎ (UTC)[reply]

I'll add some useful links in a Welcome section below. The other thing that you need to read is WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:27, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Hotel de France (Le Mans / La Chartre Sur la Louire) (December 27)

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! APerson (talk!) 23:40, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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