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Splitting the article

The article has become a piling of three separate topics, namely ethnic stereotypes in pornography, interracial pornography, and the concept of racial fetishism. A gallery that merely serves visual appeal had been added to justify this piling but the title of the article is not consistent with the content of either sections. I propose the article be divided into three separate ones as per their proper subject matters. Behemoth (talk) 14:21, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't meet WP:WHENSPLIT. The three section topics do appear to be part of the article topic - see Pornography: film and culture by Peter Lehman. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 18:00, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comedy?

This article seems to have been written by a particularly inept and naive person, possibly making a clumsy attempt at humor... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.8.71.240 (talk) 23:49, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Race?

Race is a void and meaningless word if one describes difference in appearance, e.g. skin colour; regardless of what US legislation says. When a male and a female are able to produce offspring which is also fertile then it follows that those aforementioned two are of the same race (human -> i.e. earthlings - not uranian, saturnan, venusian or martian). Don't blindly believe me (i am european and used to be a dirty commie): check the facts. Sintermerte (talk) 04:14, 24 March 2013 (UTC) Shut the fuck up with that same old stale post-marxist bullshit "Race doesn't exist! We're all one race: the Human Race!" Yadda Yadda Yadda.[reply]

Requested move

It has been proposed in this section that Ethnic pornography be renamed and moved to Interracial pornography.

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Ethnic pornography → Interracial pornography – Who uses 'Ethnic pornography' anyway? --Relisted. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:57, 26 March 2014 (UTC) --173.76.108.247 (talk) 22:26, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the article seems to say that "interracial" is a subtopic of "ethnic", thereby, foreigners or visible ethnicities not the predominant ethnicities would therefore qualify, and if its just between members of the same minority it wouldn't be interracial. -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 05:02, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose As I understand it, "ethnic pornography" would refer to any sort of pornography fetishizing people because of their race or ethnicity. I admit that this isn't a phrase you really see, but "interracial porn" would logically refer to depictions of sex acts between two or more people of different races. They're separate topics, albeit related. --BDD (talk) 17:31, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support I agree with BDD that there could potentially be an interesting article on "ethnic pornography", but this article's content doesn't really match that title. As currently written, the article is essentially solely focussed on interracial pornography. The proposal more accurately titles the article's content as it now exists. Xoloz (talk) 16:53, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

SupportI agree with Xoloz assessment. Dwanyewest (talk) 02:31, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose History of the article shows it was originally intended to cover both ethnic and interracial porn. Over time, the ethnic part seems to have been mostly removed (I haven't looked to see why, but presume it was simply a matter of the personal interests of later editors). As for who uses the term "ethnic pornography", take a look at one of the first cited sources (and one of the few academic sources), Pornography: Film and Culture. It would be better to rename the article "Ethnic and interracial pornography", to more clearly describe that the article is intended to cover those two different, but often closely related topics. Dezastru (talk) 15:50, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I came in here thinking I'd oppose, but upon reading the page I must support the move as reflecting the contents. What is 'ethnic porn' anyway? Is it any porn with a nonwhite pairing in action? Two Asians? Wouldn't be considered 'ethnic' in Japan. Really the only independently notable sub genre at issue is interracial, though a ton of work is yet to be added to make this whole even on that score. DeistCosmos (talk) 22:14, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose current title is more encyclopedic and a better description of the article's scope, per user:BDD, user:Dezastru and others above. ^walk victor falk^talk 23:55, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the abbreviated "porn" as non-scholarly. Abbreviations should be avoided. No objection to "Interracial pornography". Agree that the focus is on race, not ethnicity. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:03, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@SmokeyJoe: Fixed. --173.76.108.247 (talk) 03:45, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]