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Contestant Progress Sections

The differences between various seasons of Hell's Kitchen are difficult to keep consistent. In addition there are varying opinions as to the choices for colors, footnotes, and content for the cell. This RFC is for the express purpose of developing a preferred style for the contestant progress section on seasons of the series prior to a refactoring of the content. Hasteur (talk) 03:45, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My personal opinion is for the following:

Footnotes: "Red to Blue" team switch, "Blue to Red" team switch
Colors: 4 colors representing Team Nominated, Ramsay nominated, Voluntary removal, Eliminated

I still am unsure as to the best choice for what the text box should read. but am willing to hear good ideas. Hasteur (talk) 03:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would argue that team switching has little to no impact on the tone of the show. It happens each season and I cannot see the consequence. Also, without a history there is no way to accurately represent the various switches that is any more compact than simply presenting it in the summary. Padillah (talk) 16:38, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I argue that, since no one has commented on this we make the changes. I am proposing the following:

No footnotes. This clutters the grid and makes the reader spend time deciphering the results. That's not summary.
4 colors - Team Nominated, Ramsay nominated, Voluntary removal, Eliminated. The rest calls for reading the legend and deciphering. Not summary style.

This has been in RfC for weeks but since this is a new notification I will let this stand for one more week. If there are no objections I will begin making the changes to the current season and regress backward. Padillah (talk) 18:21, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Only point of contention I see is the Text for the progress sections? I'm thinking "Win","Loose","BoB","BoW","Other". Other being used for cases like being ill and not participating in dinner service or in elimination (ex. Bobby in S5) or other cases where they were not part of the dinner service and not dealt with during elimination. You ok with that? In addition RfCs are supposed to last 30 days before implementing a consensus. Hasteur (talk) 18:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, no problems with the texts you proposed. They are simple and if you can read you don't need to decipher them. And thanks for the elucidation on the RfC timeframe. This is something I've been wanting to clean up for years and now that it seems I can I'm getting impatient. 30 days it is, then. Padillah (talk) 13:36, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see all of the seasons' articles added unrelated colors (cornflower blue, white, etc.) and was done by IP editor from Dunedin, Florida. Can someone revert it back due to unconscious edits? ApprenticeFan ^work 09:18, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the help. I try but there are more of "them" than there are of me. Your contribution is very appreciated. Padillah (talk) 12:13, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The new color for the winner in every season of Hell's Kitchen is now limegreen makes less brighter, as the same as other reality TV series articles. ApprenticeFan ^work 08:24, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

While I was copyediting Hell's Kitchen (U.S. season 8), I've tweaked the legend for the progress table to list what WIN, LOSE, BoB, etc. mean, and then the eliminations and nominations in a more sensible manner. Please take a look and see if it makes sense to implement across the board. It can also be reworded to say "contestant was eliminated after being nominated". -AngusWOOF (talk) 04:24, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian hell's kitchen

Already 10th season ended... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.249.172.190 (talk) 15:22, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Spoiler in lead paragraph, not necessary

I am watching season 12, randomly. I wasn't sure what the current season is, so I checked, and the lead paragraph has a spoiler for what I haven't seen yet. I've edited that detail out, unless anyone can make a good case for why it *needs* to be in the article lead.

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. DrKiernan (talk) 18:22, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hell's Kitchen (U.S.) Season 11

I was editing the page for Hell's Kitchen and now somehow the entire page is deleted due to a conflict with another editor. Can someone fix this please? Revan46 02:06, 12 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Revan46 (talk • contribs)

– standard disambiguation for TV series. Also "U.S." is ambiguous, since there's a famous neighborhood in the USofA called "Hell's Kitchen", therefore "Hell's Kitchen (U.S.) should redirect to the disambiguation page. 76.65.128.43 (talk) 09:13, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No location you want to move the UK version to is already a redirect to the base name. There's already a disambiguation page to clarify the various names. Not seeing the benefit of moving the names yet again. Hasteur (talk) 13:51, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment that a redirect exists is not material to the rename. WP:NC-TV says we should use these disambiguation titles. That a disambiguation page exists does not mean that the US page isn't ambiguous. Indeed, the neighborhood in the US should be the target of anything called "Hell's Kitchen (U.S.)" or the disambiguation page, since the TV show obviously isn't the primary topic, and the neighborhood is the top link on the disambiguation page. -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 01:11, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support disambiguation in parentheses as the obvious thing to assist readers-in-search. But U dot S dot, now deprecated by the Chicago Manual of Style, is uncomfortable (and of course, unattractive visually, which is why CMOS reversed its advice) next to UK TV series. Why not US TV series? Tony (talk) 02:36, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, are we finally going to try to get rid of this? I've always found the dots unnecessary, and Wikipedia's prescription thereof pedantic. --BDD (talk) 18:44, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The standard convention is to use "U.S." and a change in that would require a much broader discussion than this move discussion. Absent that, "(U.S. TV series)" should be used here as the disambiguation parenthetical. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:00, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support per Tony. U dot S is unambigious and "TV series" article is totally applied. The current article will likely redirect to Hell's Kitchen disambiguation page. ApprenticeFan ^work 05:27, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support the inclusion of "TV series" in the disambiguation parentheticals. Rreagan007 (talk) 06:16, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support both moves. In regards to "U.S." vs "US", I dunno if there are other shows that have similar breakouts that we can compare again. ("The OFfice" and "Top Gear" come to mind, both use "U.S." and "UK" but those are only 2 that come to mind). --MASEM (t) 06:40, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is common practice to keep the periods for "U.S." but to omit them for "UK". Rreagan007 (talk) 19:57, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Season 9 & 10 release dates

i dont know how to add it so hopefully someone with knowledge of how to add with the new beta editing system can put it in. season 9 was released in Canada on August 27th, 2013 an will be released in the US in September 10th season 10 will be released on October 1st in the US, but im not sure about the Canada release, it might have been released with season 9. source

Season 11 winner denied on taking position as head chef

I should be added on Ja'Nel Witt's winning victory in seasons section, but the note could be added that she had having a failed drug test and lost the position there as head chef in Las Vegas, but here's the Daily Mail web link: Hell's Kitchen winner Ja'Nel Witt loses Las Vegas head chef job after 'failing drug test' (but keeps $250k salary) ApprenticeFan ^work 13:37, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Color keys for contestant progress

I've been trying to reorganize the legend description to go with the Contestant progress but someone keeps reverting this without explanation. Is something wrong with replacing "eliminated by Chef Ramsay" to "eliminated"? Who else would eliminate contestants if they don't eliminate themselves. And why no explanation of "WIN" or "BoB"? I also removed Chef from Chef Ramsay per WP:SURNAME. -AngusWOOF (talk) 21:37, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Old scheme

You can see this in action on Hell's Kitchen (U.S. season 12)

Color key: Contestant was eliminated; Contestant was nominated and eliminated by Chef Ramsay; Contestant was not nominated but was eliminated by Chef Ramsay; Contestant was on the winning team but was eliminated by Chef Ramsay; Contestant was eliminated during service; Contestant voluntarily left the competition; Contestant was nominated for elimination; Contestant was nominated for elimination by Chef Ramsay; Contestant was nominated by their team but not called forward by Chef Ramsay; The winner of Hell's Kitchen; The runner-up of Hell's Kitchen

New scheme

You can see this in action on Hell's Kitchen (U.S. season 8)

Keywords

WIN = Won the dinner service
LOSE = Lost the dinner service
BoB = Best of the Best, usually exempt from nomination
BoW = Best of the Worst, sometimes exempt from nomination
IN = not nominated for elimination (black team only)

NOM = nominated for elimination

OUT = eliminated
LEFT = withdrew
SICK = withdrew for health reasons

Color key: Contestant was eliminated after nomination; Contestant was eliminated after nomination by Ramsay; Contestant was eliminated without nomination; Contestant was eliminated from a winning team; Contestant was fired during service; Contestant withdrew; Contestant withdrew for health reasons

Contestant was retained after nomination

Contestant was retained after nomination by Ramsay

Contestant was not called by Ramsay after nomination

The winner of Hell's Kitchen

The runner-up of Hell's Kitchen

I don't rally see a problem with what you've been doing. I had a similar problem at America's Next Top Model. --AussieLegend (✉) 08:55, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Chefs clothes

Apart from the chef's jackets, were the shirts, trousers, socks and shoes their's or were they given to them. Wonderwizard (talk) 13:59, May 23 2014 (UTC)