Talk:Feminism

Liberal Feminism

Buenos-Ding-Dong-Dididly-Dias:

I thought you might like to reconsider the sentence " Liberal feminism seeks individualistic equality of men and women through political and legal reform without altering the structure of society." I think a more accurate description would be that liberal feminism focuses on the legal structure of society regarding sexism, but not necessarily patriarchy as a whole--which includes cultural roles, material influences of the means of production, and so on. Laws are a part of the structure of society, so this claim would be false. However, I don't quite have sources to provide. I can only say that it doesn't make sense conceptually. If there are people willing to invest their time and resources on the net, this might be worth pursuing.

Saludos,

70.72.45.131 (talk) 23:30, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Time to delete article?

Articles of interest are written by those interested in the movement. Are self-published sources acceptable? Dark Liberty (talk) 09:30, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

@Dark Liberty: Answer to your question is WP:SPS and WP:RS. Though I am still confused why this would be related to deleting this article. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 15:54, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Feminism v Gender Equality

The article implies that feminism is synonymous with gender equality. Research shows this is profoundly untrue - for example, http://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/10/05/treat-women-equally-dont-call-it-feminism/ Bob Hammersley (talk) 17:12, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

No, that research shows that ignorance is widespread. ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 09:11, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

No, it shows that people are finally catching on to what feminism is really about and they realize it's not about equality and human rights. KatiiK2 (talk) 09:34, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

I believe feminism prior to the 1970s and 1980s did for the most part care about gender equality. Now it's bascially a bunch of sexist women and self-hating men who claim that females somehow are still victims of society even though there has been massive progress the past 30-40 years. At the same time you will never hear these same people express concern about isues affecting men and boys. That is all the proof you need to figure out that this whole feminism thing in 2014 is a scam.

KatiiK (talk) 04:16, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Feminist stripper for deletion

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Run-on sentence?

Under "Feminism and Sexuality" " As a result, a significant proportion of feminists favoured this view, however, others considered sexuality irrelevant to the attainment of other goals " — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.172.44.93 (talk) 20:32, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Why No Criticism Section?

Why is there no criticism section in this article? The article isn't NPOV and is biased in favor of feminism, without any real criticism. Almost all other articles that cover social theories, movements, and philosophical ideologies have a criticism section but this one does not. And please don't tell me "anti-feminism" is a criticism section. I believe women should be treated equally just the same as men; being "anti-feminism" simply means being against sexism. This culture is massively brainwashed to believe that feminists actually care about equality for people, when their primary concern seems to be elevating women's issues and female lives above issues that impact men and male lives. KatiiK (talk) 04:09, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Gynocentrism

Gynocentrism lies behind much of what feminism is in 2014. This is why so many feminists identify as lesbian or bisexual. It is a taboo subject but many of these women are not actually sexually attracted to females, they believe in what is known as political lesbianism. These sexist, bigoted, misandrist women CHOOSE to identify as lesbian or bisexual, but in reality are heterosexual women who are obsessed (for whatever psychological reason) with women being victims of "patriarchy" and men - this is called gynocentrism.

Scholars Katherine K. Young and Paul Nathanson state that ideologically, the overriding focus of gynocentrism is to prioritize females hierarchically, and as a result may be interpreted as misandry (the hatred and prejudice towards men). Feminist calls for equality or even equity are often, according to them, a subterfuge for gynocentrism.

Young and Nathanson define gynocentrism as a worldview based on the implicit or explicit belief that the world revolves around women, a cultural theme so well entrenched that it has become 'de rigueur' behind the scenes in law courts and government bureaucracies, which has resulted in systemic discrimination against men.''

KatiiK (talk) 04:34, 20 October 2014 (UTC)