User talk:Ormr2014

Michelle Parkerson

Hi Ormr,

I hope I'm doing this right! Thanks for your comments re: Michelle Parkerson. Parkerson's work is openly identity-based and is cited in critical studies in relation to her ethnicity and sexuality: "black lesbian" is a direct quotation from Gloria Gibson's article on her (which I have now noted), and all of her films address African-American figures, many LGBTQ. Her work is distributed by feminist and African-American distributors. Identity-based art is an important strategy for many minority cultures, wherein the artist's identity is a prominent motivation for making the work and tool for reading it. This is a method of resisting racism and homophobia that erases non-dominant identities. User:Sophiemayer/Sophiemayer — Preceding undated comment added 10:23, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello User:Sophiemayer/Sophiemayer! I'm not disputing what you said, but the reference to her race and sexual preference, outside of the context you mentioned is both inappropriate and unnecessary. The context in which you used the quote, "A 'black lesbian filmmaker'" made no mention of her work with LGBTQ organizations, nor of identity-based art, nor anything else that made it relevant to the article. Furthermore, the "strategy" of overemphasizing race and sexual preference fails to meet the criteria of neutrality.

It may be helpful for you to read Biographies of living persons. Accordingly, biographies of living persons require "a high degree of sensitivity, and must adhere strictly to all applicable laws in the United States, to this policy, and to Wikipedia's three core content policies:

   Neutral point of view (NPOV)
   Verifiability (V)
   No original research (NOR)"

Ormr2014 (talk) 12:15, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Jonathan O'Donovan

Hi Ormr,

I would be interested to know for what reasons you consider the page DharmaMindBuddhistGroup promotional? It merely presents information about an existing Buddhist Group, detailing the school of buddhism it belongs to, the teacher it is affiliated with, it's location etc. I am more than happy to listen to any suggestions on how you think the information can be improved. Perhaps you consider the link to the external website promotional? JonathanODonovan (talk) 19:58, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello Jonathan,

As an organization that is not well-established under Wikipedia's guidelines, the creation of an article about the DharmaMind Buddhist Group would unfortunately qualify as spam or promotional. I did not make my decision to nominate the article for speedy deletion lightly. I also looked you up along with the organization's name on Google and came up with numerous articles linking you to that group, including a Meet Up group page at http://www.meetup.com/Dublin-Dharma-Mind-Group/members/5911865, which would qualify the article as "self-promotional" as well.

Ultimately, the decision to delete your article was not my own, but was made by an official Wikipedia Admin. Ormr2014 (talk) 20:10, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello Ormr,

This is my first wiki article so you'll have to excuse my ignorance regarding the criterion for authoring articles. Believe me, 'self' promotion is the exact antithesis of what Buddhism is about. I hope you get the joke :-)

Thanks for your polite and understanding response, JonathanODonovan. As one who also appreciates the ideas of Buddhism, I think it would be great if you could use your knowledge to improve on some of the already existing Buddhist articles! Take care and happy editing! Ormr2014 (talk) 20:54, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again Ormr, best wishes, Jonathan JonathanODonovan (talk) 21:26, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Ormr2014. I am SyncBeats. Thank you for your tagged. Could you help me with my arcticele as I new to this. Thank you . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.233.132.162 (talk) 23:40, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Universal Church of Sirius.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:Universal Church of Sirius.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 06:02, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

The articles they were used for no longer exist and as the images were uploaded specifically for use in those articles, I will delete them. Thanks Ormr2014 (talk) 14:41, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Romanov (vodka)

With reference to your flag for speedy deletion. I have mildly restructured my article with more references from third party sources. I have replaced the non-free image with a free image and a non-free logo. I have also created a talk page so that you may add more comments about how I can make the article more acceptable by wikipedia standards. Romanov is one of the most popular vodka brands in India (Trust me, I am a customer who lives in India) and it has been around for a long time with its poularity rivalling smirnoff in this countery. Thank you for your inputs. Suddhadeep (talk) 06:07, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

@Suddhadeep: My primary reason for nominating the page for Speedy Deletion is because when I searched for Romanov Vodka in three different search engines, most of what came up was promotional in nature, but little to indicate this product is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia. But no worries, my nomination was overruled nonetheless. Ormr2014 (talk) 14:52, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Celeb Life Magazine Cover.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:Celeb Life Magazine Cover.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

The articles they were used for no longer exist and as the images were uploaded specifically for use in those articles, I will delete them. Thanks Ormr2014 | Talk 

Category:Religious movements founded in the 21st century

Category:Religious movements founded in the 21st century, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:32, 6 May 2015 (UTC) Thanks for patrolling regards--Rberchie (talk) 08:21, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Dirty Water Brass Band

Hello Ormr2014. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Dirty Water Brass Band, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 already declined. G11 issues are surmountable if it passes GNG. Take to AFD if notability is still challenged. Thank you. Mkdw^talk 18:29, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Hacienda Santa Cruz Palomeque

Thank you for the review of the above article. Can you be a bit more specific about what you want corrected? I am working on a project of some 100 haciendas (1300 estimated total but only 100 or so of import). Clearly if there is an issue with one, it will impact the others, as the verbiage on many is repetitive but clearly each one has its own specific details. I would truly appreciate any input on how to make them better. SusunW (talk) 20:54, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello SusunW. I was mainly just referring to grammatical errors that should be fixed. For instance, the line "The name (Santa Cruz Palomeque) is a combination Spanish terms." should be written "The name (Santa Cruz Palomeque) is a combination of Spanish terms."

The article is well-thought out and in my opinion a great addition to the encyclopedia, it just needs a little work. Ormr2014 | Talk 

Great! Thanks. I am obviously having to go back and forth between Spanish sources and English grammar on these and sometimes that makes for confusion, I admit. I forget what language I am working in all the time. ;) I have been building them slowly to get a "writing template" down so that I don't have to rewrite the guts each time. (I do not mean a programmed template, the programming on here is beyond me. But just a format so that I only have to change the relevant details.) The Spanish pages are of no help, as they tend to have no sourcing whatsoever. Thanks for the input, I'll re-read it and see if I can clarify things. SusunW (talk) 21:10, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very, very much for making the corrections. It is so much easier to see where you erred when someone else finds the mistakes. I appreciate your help. If you want to look over any of the others, please do. SusunW (talk) 21:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

You're very welcome, SusunW :). I may look over the article more later, but for the most part, it looks okay. Ormr2014 | Talk 

May 2015

Hi, I'm Boyconga278. Ormr2014, thanks for creating my talk page!

What do you say about this article Vietnam at the 2015 Southeast Asian Games? Boyconga278 (talk) 03:51, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

@Boyconga278: After searching for articles relating to the 2015 Southeast Asian Games, I found many similar articles to yours, so I went ahead and removed the notability tag. Ormr2014 | Talk 

Sig

Are you adding your signature template to your posts manually? You should really just use the four tildes like the rest of us, because one thing it does is adding the timestamp, which should be mandatory for everyone in most cases.

Also: Wikipedia:Signatures#NoTemplates:

• Transclusions of templates ... in signatures (like those which appear as {{User:Name/sig}}, for example) are forbidden ...
• Substitutions of templates in signatures is permissible but discouraged, as the substituted page may be vandalized without the user knowing. ... Users who choose to substitute their signature are required to be highly vigilant of their signature whenever they sign. Substitution must not be used to circumvent the normal restrictions on signature content, including the use of images, obnoxious markup, or excessive length.

— Jeraphine Gryphon ^(talk) 09:25, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Jeraphine - Sorry I wasn't aware of that. Many Wikipedians use template signatures, or manually typed html/css signatures, but I'll revert to the four tildes method. Ormr2014 (talk) 11:58, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

See WP:CUSTOMSIG about how to customize your signature correctly - the code you currently have on your signature sub-page is entered in the relevant box in your Preferences > User profile settings. The four tildes will then render the signature the way you want it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:22, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, you put all that fancy code into the text box at your Preferences page, and then make sure the ticky box under it that says "Treat the above as wiki markup." is checked, and, voila, next time you sign with the tildes you'll automatically get the fancy sig plus timestamp.

And then maybe do something about this. — Jeraphine Gryphon ^(talk) 12:59, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Romanian Secular-Humanist Association

Hi Ormr2014. I have already removed one deletion proposal from the article and argued in favor of my decision in the article's talk page. I maintain the same arguments. In any case I have included some more details and references. The article is still a stub and I know that much improvement is needed, but do you think there is enough referenced information now for the notice to be removed?

As for it being "promotional in nature", I think this is an accusation that applies equally well to any article on a member organization of IHEU. In any case I have added references to the association being mentioned in international reports and academic articles. I hope they add credibility to my defense. Ariel Pontes (talk) 12:03, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Ariel Pontes, Please add your arguments in favor of keeping the article in the Deletion Discussion Page. I do not believe the sources given in the article establish notability in the least and I could not find anything reputable that did so, which is why I nominated the article. You are welcome to discuss it in the appropriate place. Ormr2014 (talk) 12:09, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Greetings Ormr, thanks for reviewing and commenting on my articles. Much appreciated!!

Also, about your Buddha quote...I'm sorry to be the one who does this but... http://fakebuddhaquotes.com/do-not-dwell-in-the-past-do-not-dream-of-the-future/ (I couldn't help it :p) Javierfv1212

Javierfv1212 LOL Yeah, there are a lot of those "fake quotes". There is a variant of this same quote in the Bible, "Forget the former things; do not dwell on the past." The quote may be an improper translation from the Dhammapada, but the principle of living in the present plays a major role in Buddhism, especially among Therevada Buddhists. and forms the basis for the now-popular Zen practice of Mindfulness Meditation.

In any event, I may change it to something more valid as a quote, but for now, it serves a purpose. Ormr2014 (talk) 16:24, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Elder rights activists

Hello Ormr2014, above page was created without any content by another user. You moved the page to Draft:Elder rights activists. I think what you tried to do was mark the page as under construction or test. If the page is intended to be marked as under construction then one can place in use tag on the page. In the future, be very careful in moving the pages as the entire history of the page moves with it and reverting the page move is NOT easy. 18:02, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

@Jeraphine Gryphon:@AKS.9955:, the Article Elder rights activists was not a cut and paste into the Draft namespace, it was a blatant move made by me because the content was in the earliest stages of development and had no business in the Article namespace. When the author expressed concern over the article possibly being deleted and stated it was not finished, I took the liberty of moving it. Ormr2014 (talk) 18:04, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Ormr, you didn't do anything wrong and I didn't say you did. AKS was not aware of Wikipedia's "Draft:"-space function/purpose so he undid your move by doing a cut-and-paste move. I have now reverted those edits so everything is fine. — Jeraphine Gryphon ^(talk) 18:07, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Jeraphine Gryphon Lol thanks for clarifying that :) Ormr2014 (talk) 18:09, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

• Folks, my bad. I have never used this functionality and strangely enough, this is the first time I noticed Draft on WP:NPP. I meant no harm. Sorry and Cheers, Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 18:09, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Citations needed

I added more citations to this article University of California, San Francisco Archives and Special Collections. Does that meet the citation needs? Kevans10 (talk) 19:27, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Kevans10 I'm by far not the pro here, but it does seem the article has some good citations. Ormr2014 (talk) 19:30, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

ok, thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevans10 (talk • contribs) 19:33, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Closing AFD you started

In the future, please do not close an AfD (as you did here) if you are the one who started it. This helps avoid a possible appearance of a conflict of interest, even if you withdraw your nomination. Additionally, you did not close the discussion properly (there are required steps to follow when closing a discussion, and you only followed a couple of them). Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:12, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Nihonjoe Since this is the 4th such comment I have received and since I have gotten this now-redundant point, I'm linking to my latest nomination withdrawal so the next editor who feels the need to "Warn" me knows I no longer close my own AFDs... Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Clark_County_Courier Ormr2014 (talk) 20:18, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

There were no other such notifications I could see here (I didn't read all of the rest of your user talk page, just the last couple entries), so I apologize if you are feeling overwhelmed by these. That certainly wasn't my intent. Thanks for the clarification. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:20, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry Nihonjoe if I seem like a bit of a jerk. There seems to be a major elitist trend among many of the editors here. Not sure why so many people feel that because they've edited on Wikipedia for 5, 10, or 15 years they have the right to be jerks, but this superior mindset really irks me and today has been one of those days when I have had to deal with more than my share of them. Ormr2014 (talk) 20:28, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

No problem. Everyone has those days (even those of us who have been here for 5, 10, or 15 years (I forget how long I've been here, but somewhere in the middle of all that). The best thing to do is remember that 99% of the time, people don't intend to be jerks. Since we are all interacting with only text, we lose 90% of the cues we rely on when talking to a person: body language, facial expressions, tone of voice, and so on. In my case, I try to assume that people aren't intending to be rude and work from that angle, even if their words seem to indicate otherwise. This works for me, and you're welcome to try it if you wish.

Also, in the dicussion you linked (Clark County Courier), you indicated that someone with "more authority" should close the discussion. It isn't a matter of authority as anyone can close an AfD. It's just a matter of avoiding the appearance of a conflict of interest to let someone else close discussions which you started. You're welcome to continue to close AfDs as long as you follow the directions here. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:34, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

I just don't see how WP:COI is relevant here, Nihon. — Jeraphine Gryphon ^(talk) 20:49, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Actually, Nihonjoe, I read the COI page three times and I honestly do not see anything about closing your own nominations when the general consensus is to keep the article and you agree with the reasons. Ormr2014 | Talk  21:03, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

It is generally accepted that any editor should not close a discussion they start (unless it's on their own talk page), especially a deletion discussion. Regardless of whether you can see the applicability or not, that is generally accepted as something to avoid. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:07, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

For the record, Nihonjoe, I don't have any intentions of closing my own AFDs in the future, as doing so seems to create unnecessary conflict, but as I've been reminded more times than I can count, unless it is specifically spelled out in Wikipedia's editing policies, common practices or general understandings are not valid points here. Ormr2014 | Talk  21:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Okay now I get it. One should not close a discussion they started because they're an involved editor. It's a bit similar to the concept of COI, but the WP:COI page itself deals with a different type of issue. — Jeraphine Gryphon ^(talk) 10:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Basically. If you're involved, there could be a perceived conflict of interest. Whether or not one actually exists is a moot point if the perception is there. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:18, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Nihonjoe Yeah I did see the section that discussed perceived COIs, so it's all good. I'm mainly going to focus on article cleanups and article creation, via (Wanted Pages) Ormr2014 | Talk  17:27, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good. Hope to see you around. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:31, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Omrmr,

I feel bad that users in the Teahouse were criticizing your intentions. I just want to let you know that I am thankful that you at least tried to help. Thanks and I encourage you not to stop posting in the Teahouse! Have a great day. --Ana L. Cortez (talk) 19:52, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Hey Ana L. Cortez, thanks for the encouraging words, but I'm done with the Teahouse. I'm still creating articles and editing in Wikipedia, but the stuffy and elitist attitude I've seen in the Teahouse is truly disgusting to me. I work in Beverly Hills and I see this whole "screw you, I'm better than you" mindset everyday and it bothers me tremendously. People are rude and obnoxious, cut you off in traffic and act like they own the whole damn world, you included. That bothers me because I feel I'm as good as anyone else and everyone is deserving of the same respect and consideration. In any event, you take care and thanks again for stopping by. Ormr2014 | Talk  20:00, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for all your cleanup work

		The Cleanup Barnstar
		I've noticed you do a lot of cleanup work on a lot of different articles. Thanks for taking the time to make all those little improvements. Every little bit helps, and you're making a big impact. Thanks! ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:02, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Nihonjoe! I appreciate the Barnstar! Ormr2014 | Talk  20:03, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Sayyed Ibn Tawus

Hello,

You left a terse note on my talk page reprimanding me for removing maintenance templates from an article without correcting the problems here [1] I did not remove any templates. I made two formatting edits and a third edit to fill a bare reference. The maintenance templates were clearly still there as evidenced in the diff above. It looks like the next editor may have removed the templates. Please look more closely at the diff before accusing editors in the future. Cheers! WordSeventeen (talk) 15:10, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

WordSeventeen, The revision history indicates that you did indeed remove the maintenance tags. See the Revision History Ormr2014 | Talk  15:13, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Not sure why the revision history showed the tags missing after your initial edit, but User:Papeli44 has taken credit for the removal and I owe you an apology. Ormr2014 | Talk  15:28, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes thank you, I was typing this out to show you, You are reading the diff incorrectly[2] Look at the top on my third edit where I filled in a reference then scroll down to see the version of the page after I made my third edit, all of the maintenance messages are still there after my edit. If you scroll over to the next edit [3] you will see the next editor removed the templates and moved chunks of the text around and changed the article in several sections. I did not remove the templates. Cheers! WordSeventeen (talk) 15:35, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Office of the Oversight Commissioner (Northern Ireland)

I took a look at this and cannot find any page that links to it. Can you? Hohenloh ⁺ 20:51, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Hohenloh, Wow, I created the article because Office of the Oversight Commissioner was listed under Wikipedia's "Most Wanted Articles". It showed the pages linking to it in the thousands. Just double checked and it looks like it's all article Talk Pages, rather than the articles themselves. Ormr2014 | Talk  21:21, 18 May 2015 (UTC)