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Curious coding

Since you seem to be the only one around here who seems to be experienced and has an interest in the history of SA item, I trust you won't mind if I ask you for some insight (if any) re the curious form of citation coding used at SA Republic section. e.g. [1]: 224  which produces two differing sets of reference numbers.

Incidentally, in due course I'm going to trim substantially the Union of SA section -- (aside from all the OR it's convoluted and much much too long / has undue weight.

References

  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference Fairbridge was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

On StorMagic

Hi Dodger67, thanks for your review of my article submission on StorMagic. I am responding to your question about what reviewers said about StorMagic. Two articles include info that confirms what other articles have said about their technology. Example quote below. Two of the articles are password protected (you need to be a subscriber) so I wasn't able to read them, just their abstracts. Do you think I should describe the comments from the "free" content in my article? Perhaps I should only include links to non password-protected (public domain) articles? Thanks for your help!

From Enterprise Strategy Group - "StorMagic is moving forward with a very wise approach: It is staying true to the value of its product and the type of customer it best serves. StorMagic understands the fundamental problems with legacy solutions and built a virtualized storage solution optimized specifically for distributed organizations with a large number of remote locations. The technology is proven and it shows based on the recent deals StorMagic has won with some of the largest retailers in the world. In fact, one retailer’s legacy storage deployment across 2,200 stores reported an average of five outages per week, with six hours of downtime per outage. After replacing its legacy solution with SvSAN, the retailer has run virtually outage-free since the initial deployment occurred almost a year ago. If you are looking for a way to efficiently deploy a cost-effective, highly available virtualized storage solution across a distributed organization, ESG Lab recommends taking a look at StorMagic SvSAN." Fairwin99 (talk) 15:05, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

H Fairwin99 - use whatever you can access but don't cite what you have not read. If you would like to see the content that is behind a paywall but can't justify the cost of a subscription, someone at the WP:Resource exchange might be able to provide you with a copy - posting a request there is easy. Don't forget that paper magazines also exist - a visit to a library might be productive. Don't include long quotes, a phrase or two would be ok, briefly summarise the rest in your own words. Don't forget to mention the negatives if reviewers were critical of some aspects of the company or its products, our "job" is to neutrally record notable subjects, not to praise them. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:50, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for clarifying! Your comments help make the article better. I will cite the ones i've actually read for now and take your advice about including only short paraphrased content. Good point about neutrality. If there are negative comments to balance it out I'll also include them. If/when I can access the paywall stuff I'll update the page with new citations. Thanks again!

2602:306:CEEF:7740:ACE3:4E46:2615:F63C (talk) 17:33, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Roger (Dodger67) - I was checking into whether you needed any more information from me on the submission. I updated the article as proposed. I didn't see any additional comments or questions so wasn't sure if you were waiting on me to confirm anything or if the article on StorMagic was already being reviewed by other editors. I appreciate any input you can provide at this stage. It's been more than a month since I submitted and I realize there's a backlog of reviews. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing a step as I know everyone's busy. Thank you! Fairwin99 (talk) 13:32, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Geology museums in Denmark

A tag has been placed on Category:Geology museums in Denmark requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for four days or more and it is not presently under discussion at Categories for discussion, or at disambiguation categories.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Deor (talk) 23:13, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

15:35:33, 1 June 2015 review of submission by Vltava


Vltava (talk) 15:35, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There would appear to be some misunderstanding here. As indicated below both articles concerned are already in existence.

The page Runciman Report, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runciman_Report, does already exist (created on 20 May 2009). It is concerned with the misuse of drugs in the United Kingdom. However, it does not yet have the additional phrase “on misuse of drugs” in parenthesis. I presume that would need to be added by an editor.

The page Runciman Report (on Czechoslovakia), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runciman_Report_%28on_Czechoslovakia%29, also exists (created by me on 16 September 2014).

Hence my suggestion that a disambiguation page might be helpful to users. It might read as follows:


Runciman Report (disambiguation)

Runciman Report may refer to:

Oh I see! Disambiguation is not really an AFC issue, the general Help desk is a better venue for it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:07, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

07:05:37, 11 June 2015 review of submission by Ethan Lvw


I have a question about my article: Why did you decline my submission Ethan Lvw (talk) 07:05, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ethan Lvw - It is not an article, it is a statement about your user account. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:10, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
but whyEthan Lvw (talk) 07:11, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nit police

In this post I assume you meant 4000 not 400.--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:12, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks User:Sphilbrick - If you find another of my typos, just go ahead and fix it. (I hope the asker realized it was a typo) Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:19, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I almost did it myself, but I like to be exceedingly careful about editing someone else's text. Thanks for the permission for the future.--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:24, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 4

Newsletter • May/June 2015

Hello friends! We have been hard at work these past two months. For this report:

The directory is live!

For the first time, we are happy to bring you an exhaustive, comprehensive WikiProject Directory. This directory endeavors to list every single WikiProject on the English Wikipedia, including those that don't participate in article assessment. In constructing the broadest possible definition, we have come up with a list of approximately 2,600 WikiProjects. The directory tracks activity statistics on the WikiProject's pages, and, for where it's available, statistics on the number of articles tracked by the WikiProject and the number of editors active on those articles. Complementing the directory are description pages for each project, listing usernames of people active on the WikiProject pages and the articles in the WikiProject's scope. This will help Wikipedians interested in a subject find each other, whether to seek feedback on an article or to revive an old project. (There is an opt-out option.) We have also come up with listings of related WikiProjects, listing the ten most relevant WikiProjects based on what articles they have in common. We would like to promote WikiProjects as interconnected systems, rather than isolated silos.

A tremendous amount of work went into preparing this directory. WikiProjects do not consistently categorize their pages, meaning we had to develop our own index to match WikiProjects with the articles in their scope. We also had to make some adjustments to how WikiProjects were categorized; indeed, I personally have racked up a few hundred edits re-categorizing WikiProjects. There remains more work to be done to make the WikiProject directory truly useful. In the meantime, take a look and feel free to leave feedback at the WikiProject X talk page.

Stuff in the works!

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  • A new design template—This has been in the works for a while, of course. But our goal is to design something that is useful and cleanly presented on all browsers and at all screen resolutions while working within the confines of what MediaWiki has to offer. Additionally, we are working on designs for the sub-components featured on the main project page.
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  • SuggestBot for WikiProjects—We have asked the maintainer of SuggestBot to make some minor adjustments to SuggestBot that will allow it to post regular reports to those WikiProjects that ask for them. Stay tuned!
  • Semi-automated article assessment—Using the new revision scoring service and another system currently under development, WikiProjects will be getting a new tool to facilitate the article assessment process by providing article quality/importance predictions for articles yet to be assessed. Aside from helping WikiProjects get through their backlogs, the goal is to help WikiProjects with collecting metrics and triaging their work. Semi-automation of this process will help achieve consistent results and keep the process running smoothly, as automation does on other parts of Wikipedia.

Want us to work on any other tools? Interested in volunteering? Leave a note on our talk page.

The WikiProject watchers report is back!

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Until next time, Harej (talk) 22:20, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

17:23:28, 18 June 2015 review of submission by Rich gitsch


Does this work, or do I need more independent References?

Rich gitsch (talk) 17:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rich gitsch, yes it definitely needs a few more independent sources such as news or magazine articles.
I've found a few possibilities:
Also look at the sources used in Port of Tillamook Bay Railroad#Oregon Coast Scenic Railroad.
Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:46, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help on this. I've added a few other outside references.

I didn't want to get into the current controversies with the "rails-to-trails" or the court cases yet. I wanted to just get the basic page started, and update it as I get more understanding of those issues.

Rich gitsch (talk) 18:39, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The litigation sources are the strongest support you have for notability, also keep in mind that Wikipedia articles must maintain a neutral point of view which means we do not avoid discussing controversies or critical sources. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for your assistance yesterday. How does it look now? I will be expanding the section about the track repair work, and will add a section about the Rails-to-Trails (aka Rails-With-Trails), too, as I can get reliable documentation.

Rich gitsch (talk) 19:39, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Rich gitsch, the best reliable documentation in terms of Wikipedia's rules are news articles in the mainstream press, such as the links I have already shown you. I'll take a proper look at the page tomorrow, it's bedtime at my end. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:05, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Interview for The Signpost

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05:37:28, 22 June 2015 review of submission by Rich gitsch


Good morning. I have been working on clearing up the References. How does it look now?

Rich G.

Rich gitsch (talk) 05:37, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Is there a good reason why you're not an admin? --Dweller (talk) 11:31, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dweller - Been there, done that, didn't get the t-shirt, thanks for asking. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:40, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Just reviewed that. I loved your honesty and the calmness with which you went through that. I think you would stand an excellent chance of passing this time and if I took a little bit of time to review your contribs, and they stacked up with what I think they'll be like, I'd happily nominate you. --Dweller (talk) 12:19, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Dweller - Anne Delong recently asked me to consider facing the inquisition again, so perhaps I should. However I have not actually done much AFD work as suggested at the failed RFA, I've been far too busy at AFC - which I consider to actually be superior evidence of knowing what constitutes an acceptable article. AFD is simplistic !voting and NPP (also suggested to me at the RFA) is IMHO merely semi-organised tag-bombing that I could do while half asleep. AFC doesn't simply shoot down unacceptable articles, like NPP does, or delete articles that could be fixed, as frequently happens at AFD. AFC actually helps newbies to improve their first attempts into fairly decent articles, thus a productive AFC reviewer demonstrates not only knowlege of what constitutes acceptable content but also shows the ability to guide and assist new editors to become regular Wikipedians. BTW, my CSD record is pretty good IMHO. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:45, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again. I've seen successful RfAs in the past where the candidate has said up front that they are content contributors, they have no real interest in AfD and deletion procedures and would not wish to use the delete button, but would like to, (eg) protect and unprotect or use other admin tools. The fact is, RfA is about whether the community trusts a user. If we'll trust a candidate with block and protect, why wouldn't we trust them not to use delete? --Dweller (talk) 12:59, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Would you mind if I asked DGG to weigh in here? If they could support your nomination, it would be a big help. --Dweller (talk) 13:17, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Dweller Sure, if he's willing. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:22, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I've asked. --Dweller (talk) 14:00, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I've taken a look at your current work and at RfA1. You are not making the same errors, and you are doing good work in all respects. Considering my role in AfD1, I think it would be particularly appropriate for me to co-nominate. I rechecked some of the articles you nominated for deletion that were closed as keep, and by our current standards some of them should indeed not be kept--and I've listed a few for deletion by various processes. My advice would be first to participate a little more at some of the less obvious AfDs, and to start commenting at Deletion Review--not as much to prove you know what to do, but to raise visibility with people interested in this area. And then, in a month or two when you know you'll have time clear to deal with the questions, let me know so it can be synchronized. DGG ( talk ) 00:11, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks DGG. I'll let you and Dweller and Anne Delong know when I'm ready to take on the inquisition again.
Sounds perfect. I'm happy you're not rushing - shows your not nuts about collecting hats - and even happier that I've persuaded you to go for it. --Dweller (talk) 09:30, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@ DGG, Dweller, Anne Delong - I have a very busy week or two (or even three!) ahead, so let's provisionally pencil it in for the last week of July. (I also have a pending GA nomination, there's no telling when that might start.) Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:51, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As an impartial guy, though one who is well aware of your longstanding and well-respected tenure at AfC, I'm happy to put my name as nominator or co-nominator on this. Your CSD log is fine, just one or two AfC submissions declined instead of G11 speedied - big deal. Art jewelry forum isn't a problem either - you couldn't find sources to improve it, other people managed to overhaul the article substantially, and I'm sure had you revisited the AfD you might have swapped your !vote to keep. Actually, it's a good example of article rescue,(quick wave to MelanieN) if you can dig out a few other bad AfD noms, improve them to a keep consensus, that should sort out any naysayers. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:59, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nominating Sharjah Biennial Page for Speedy Deletion

Hello,

You have nominated the page for speedy deletion for copyright issues, can you please help me and tell me which part are you referring to? is it the name of participants? because that is the only thing i did copy from the page and i send them an email to take their permission, can you help please? i am trying to document arab art scene and this biennial is one of the important ones and actually the only biennial that doesnt have a wiki page which is a shame..


Hi Uaearthub As the page has already been deleted I no longer have access to the content. The deletion log however shows that it has in fact been deleted more than once because it contained a copyright violation from http://www.sharjahart.org/biennial/sharjah-biennial-9/information
The admin who performed the latest deletion is Jimfbleak, perhaps he can help you. Basically you must stop copying directly from sources, you need to write the information in your own words. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:20, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We have an article at Sharjah Biennale. If it's the same thing, it should be checked for copyvio and then we should have a redirect from one of the spellings to the other, whichever way round is correct. --Dweller (talk) 10:40, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dweller @Jimfbleak - Done! The sources and the subject's own website use "Biennal" so I've moved and redirected accordingly. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:38, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
Thank you for your help. Uaearthub (talk) 11:47, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:13, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
thank you Paulhus15 (talk) 22:56, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Paulhus15, thanks for the barnstar, please could you remind me what I did to deserve it. I can't remember doing anything unusual that intersected with you. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:46, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

you helped me over in the tea room area with my submission question and I appreciate it. It's been awhile since I did anything here so it was great to have your input. thanks again Paulhus15 (talk) 21:50, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Glad I could help, thanks again. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:44, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Imperial Gift

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Imperial Gift you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tomandjerry211 -- Tomandjerry211 (talk) 11:21, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]


The article Imperial Gift you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Imperial Gift for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tomandjerry211 -- Tomandjerry211 (talk) 12:41, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
thank you always for your suggestions and input. So appreciated Paulhus15 (talk) 09:34, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help at Teahouse

Thanks for your help at the Teahouse. I am quite new here.PeterLFlomPhD (talk) 12:48, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

15:01:49, 23 July 2015 review of submission by HaastrupA


I have re:written and applied all the changes. It will be appreciated if you can give my article another look.

Many thanks.

HaastrupA (talk) 15:01, 23 July 2015 (UTC){{SAFESUBST:|}}[reply]

00:20:01, 25 July 2015 review of submission by Fodya


Fodya (talk) 00:20, 25 July 2015 (UTC) Dear Dodger67, I really do not understand the reasons why you've declined the submission about John Borstlap. You've commented" I have done quite a bit of cleaning up of this draft, correcting various layout problems, etc. but it still lacks many references. There are entire paragraphs without a single citation and even more problematic are the direct quotes that are unsourced" How do you mean "references"? Just take a look at the list of Dutch composers at Wikipedia. There are a lot of composers mentioned which don't have half a list of references mentioned on the submission about John Borstlap. So that's why I'll resubmit the draft.[reply]

Hi Fodya - Take a look at the first sentence, it contains two references; one after the word "composer" and the next one after "classical traditions". The information between the <ref> and </ref> codes is a reference. Now look at the "Early career" section - there are no references anywhere in that paragraph. You need to add references that directly support each of the substantive claims in the article, for example which source says he was educated at the Rotterdam conservatory? Find that source and put its details between ref codes after the statement about the conservatory, in the same way it has been done elsewhere. Then do it for every significant claim in the rest of the article. See the Referencing for beginners guide for more detail. If you'd like I can place "citation needed" tags at all the places where I think a reference is required - just let me know if I should do that. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:18, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Still I can't understand why you are that critical about this submission. Please look for instance at the Wiki page from other Dutch composers;Hendrik Andriessen,Louis Andriessen(just two references!!), Henk Badings, Kees van Baaren, Patrick van Deurzen, Douwe Eisenga, Klaas de Vries(the list is much longer) at Wikipedia. There is no reference at all mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fodya (talk • contribs) 09:12, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PROD versus BLPPROD

Hi, sorry, but you're mistaken. The rule for BLPPROD is not the same as for PROD. Once a BLPPROD tag has been posted, it is not permissible to remove it until the issue has been remedied. See WP:BLPPROD. (In the case of Hugo Chinchilla, I see that I may have not noticed that references were already there, in which case removing the BLPPROD was appropriate for that reason, and it was my mistake for not noticing.) If it is removed without the issue being remedied, then it's supposed to be restored. See WP:BLPPROD#Objecting. —Largo Plazo (talk) 16:12, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@—Largo Plazo Thanks for the info. There seems to be an IP still editing it in Spanish, is that allowed? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:18, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know if it's technically allowed. If someone were doing that repeatedly to a page in English even after being warned, I would call it disruptive editing. In this case, practically speaking I don't see any point in worrying about it. Either someone will start translating the article, in which case we can then call the user out on disruptive editing, or else it will disappear, in which case the edits made in the interim won't have mattered. —Largo Plazo (talk) 16:21, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@—Largo Plazo That makes sense. Well I don't have anything else to add or edit on the page so I'll just be watching what happens to it, out of plain old curiosity. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:26, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate your "thank you".

@Dodger67: I appreciate your kind "thank you" for my recent Wikipedia edits, and wanted to let you know. --- Professor JR (talk) 16:12, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Professor JR - I'm just sorry I can't really help you with the "due diligence" check as I am not familiar at all with most of the controversies. I'm South African, our news media doesn't report much detail about the Clintons since they moved out of the White House. I'm sure someone will step forward soon though, the article looks really worthwhile. Checking for possible BLP violations is one of the "prime directives" of the Articles for Creation process; it is in fact the main reason why AFC was instituted. The nature of your draft means it carries a high risk; just one missing or misplaced "alleged" and we could be in hot water! If there's anything else I can help you with, you know where to find me. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:30, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Dodger67: Thank you very much. I appreciate it, and will review the article with that in mind. --- Professor JR (talk) 18:23, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 00:32:10, 28 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Puertorican52



Puertorican52 (talk) 00:32, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User:Patrick F. Matre

Hi. You left a note at Patrick F. Matre. I found the all caps "DO NOT" a bit bitey, and without signing, he probably wouldn't know how to respond. He has CIR issues and may not be able to constructively edit, but that is not the point. Also, the caution itself seems inappropriate. Lots of people make drafts at their userpage. I am not aware of any policy or guideline that says it is not permitted. Users are just encouraged to use their sandbox or draftspace. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:57, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Anna Frodesiak - I'll get back to you about this soon. Roger (Dodger67) (talk)

Moving someone's sandbox to draftspace

Hi again. Sorry to bother you. Is there some new policy I do not know about? Why move a sandbox to a draftspace? Why not just tag it? And if you do, as you did here, why not let them know or welcome them or something? You just did it and moved on. Cheers. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Anna Frodesiak It's standard practice to move sandbox drafts to Draft-space when it has been submitted to AFC for review. I am busy reviewing that draft now. The move leaves a redirect behind so finding it should not be a problem. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:09, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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