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Date of Birth

Without much trouble I found a half dozen uses of the LDS Family Search genealogy database in longstanding Wikipedia entries. You're misinterpreting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Avoid_misuse_of_primary_sources It would be applicable if I went to New York and accessed primary birth records. The LDS website uses a third party aggregator as described at the reference. In addition when you deleted the date of birth this time, you deleted the place of birth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eblem (talk • contribs) 11:17, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"no way of knowing whether that record relates to this person)" - Justlettersandnumbers

There is only one Phyllis Zagano in the United States:

http://www.whitepages.com/name/Phyllis-Zagano

http://find.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&formname=name&qf=phyllis&qmi=&qn=zagano&qcs=&focusfirst=1

etc, etc

I am not sure why this Zagano article has turned into a p-ssing contest, but I am going to restore this if you don't present something more profound in the next 24 hours or so.

Eblem (talk) 14:13, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See e.g. the short discussions here and here for why the source you are citing is not a reliable source. --JBL (talk) 14:35, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Those "short discussions" are just that - discussions citing opposing positions. If you can't cite a Wikipedia "decision" you're simply taking a contra position. Again, this Zagano article is becoming a p-ssing contest for reasons that simply elude me. Wikipedia is rife with completely unsourced DOBs and numerous others using the same source I cited.

Eblem (talk) 15:28, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLPPRIMARY is the "decision" you're asking for. I used it in my edit summaries if you would only look. You may also want to consult WP:OTHERSTUFF while you're at it. Elizium23 (talk) 20:54, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It would be if the reference were a primary source. It is not. I am all for submitting this to dispute resolution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution Eblem (talk I can live with whatever comes out of that. Eblem (talk) 22:21, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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