Talk:WWE Championship

Typo

I noticed there is a typo on this page. You have it as WWWF instead of WWF! lol Id fix it myself if I could. Thought Id let you know! =) ----Arkitan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.102.133 (talk) 07:05, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Nvm, I had always thought World Wide was one word! >.>

Why is it still marked undisputed?

This isn't 2002. There is one single champion, Alberto Del Rio, and he should be the WWE Champion. The title is not disputed. Hopefully this undisputed mess stops soon... unless they decide to reunify the belts, which I doubt happens. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.210.203.189 (talk) 14:16, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

-- WWE.com is currently referring to the title as the Undisputed WWE Championship. The article's usage of that term seems to be warranted. 99.30.110.201 (talk) 15:53, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

No it's not warranted. The title history on WWE.com still refers to it as "WWE Championship." http://www.wwe.com/inside/titlehistory/wwechampionship As usual, everyone's just jumping the gun by changing something. --Jtalledo (talk) 22:52, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Youngest champions?

I have been doing some reading and it seems the championship has been held by progressively younger people setting records over the years. This may not be all of them, but people who have apparently set this record are Undertaker then Yokozuna then Randy Orton. I am probably missing people before and in between. Bonechamber (talk) 23:49, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Randy set the record for World title not the WWE one

Dolph Ziggler

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Dolph Ziggler is not the WWE Champion. WWE.com does not list him as WWE Champion but still lists CM Punk as the WWE champion (evidence is in the above link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.62.73.54 (talk) 22:44, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

CM Punk

Best in the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irfanpuniali (talk • contribs) 18:18, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Youre confusing the "Best in the world" with the "Best cheater in the world!" O.o ----Arkitan

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FYI, I corrected this. Originally there was no link to the exact photo page on Flickr, so it was flagged by a bot. Someone provided a source but did not remove the tag. I removed the tag, so there should be no problems now. --Jtalledo (talk) 23:55, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Possible change in design of title

Two points:

• Speculation is not to be added to an article. Wikipedia is not a fan forum.
• New information should be backed up by a reliable source. (see WP:CITE for more info on that)

ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 19:54, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

There was a former design not listed

Before World Wrestling Federation turned into World Wrestling Entertainment, the WWE Undisputed title belt once had the WWF logo on it. I tried to edit it and tahts why there is a mess at the top of the page, but heres the pic of that title http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100928002904/prowrestling/images/d/df/WWF_Undisputed_Championship.jpg, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.59.114.204 (talk) 00:26, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Identical to one of the other ones, save for the change in logo. If a freely licensed image of it is found, then it could be added. --Jtalledo (talk) 00:59, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Original Belt

I saw on yahoo a few days ago that the original WWWF title belt was recently found after it mysteriously went missing after it was won. It was then replaced. I think we should put this in the article somewhere it since very significant as i headlined the yahoo home page which is meant for big news and the fact that the orginal belt design went missing seems important though Here [2]--BlackDragon 23:48, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

The original belt was replaced before Wrestlemania 3 as the original belt could not fit around Andre the Giant in case he had won it from Hulk Hogan! ----Arkitan

Billy Graham did not have a custom belt

The Red Strap Belt that this article calls custom was also worn in the title reigns of Pedro Morales, Stan Stasiak, and Bruno's second run. I have photos of them, and you can find photos elsewhere.

173.30.187.100 (talk) 15:03, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Title Issues

Hello the championship belts section have a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP, i have removed so many times but you revert it please remove the world championship because it is the page of WWE CHAMPIONSHIP
ThanksKskhh (talk) 05:32, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

The WWE Championship is a world Championship so why we removed that fact from the article.--Dcheagle | ^{Join the Fight!} 10:31, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

To IP 173.2.172.196

Don't edit the article 173.2.172.196. You really suck.Kskhh (talk) 16:40, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

MFW

Chris Jericho — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.118.124.123 (talk) 22:23, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

New undisputed champion

Since it has been made clear on the November 27 episode Main Event that the two world titles are facing unification at TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs (2013), should it be mentioned in the "Undisputed Champion" section about the reunification? Jedi Striker (talk) 01:42, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

WWE World Heavyweight Championship

A new article should be created called WWE World Heavyweight Championship as this is what WWE are referring the unified belts to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wyatt 151 (talk • contribs) 18:29, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

No, this article is going to be renamed as soon as the redirect is deleted. — Richard BB 18:41, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

I wish that they would change the name of the title to the WWE Undisputed Championship. It'd be better than the name it has now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.204.227.189 (talk) 00:25, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Picture

Shouldn't we change the picture of the belt to that of the WWE Championship and World Heavyweight titles together as this seems to be with what WWE are going with. Wyatt 151 (talk) 21:01, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

There's no indication that this is what WWE are going with until Raw airs. — Richard BB 21:17, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

 Resolved

Is it confirmed that WHC is retired?

And that only the WWE lineage remains active? After all, they are still carrying both belts around. 2002:188B:E3DB:0:0:0:188B:E3DB (talk) 06:01, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the WHC has been added to WWE's list of retired titles on their website. — Richard BB 08:47, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by nominee. (non-admin closure) Jgera5 (talk) 22:13, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

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WWE World Heavyweight Championship → WWE Championship – The "WWE World Heavyweight Championship" name may only be temporary, as the Big Gold Belt is expected to be retired in the near future after 29 years while the relatively recently designed WWE Championship belt will become the sole belt for the championship. Additionally, moving the page just over a week after it was unified with the World Heavyweight Championship might be jumping the gun a bit. If it was over a year from the unification I could see it making sense, but I can see WWE simplifying the name back to WWE Championship like it did in the late 1980's. I suggest moving the page back to WWE Championship until it appears that WWE is in fact going to call it the WWE World Heavyweight Championship long-term. Jgera5 (talk) 06:36, 28 December 2013 (UTC) Jgera5 (talk) 06:36, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Discussion is at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Professional_wrestling#Page_move:_WWE_Championship_.E2.86.92_WWE_World_Heavyweight_Championship, please ensure you notify editors there of your Requested Move. Nick (talk) 12:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

That's for the last discussion. Unless anyone wants to start a new discussion now, I'll just cast my vote here:

• Strong oppose. WWE have been very clear that this is the new title name. There is no reason to suggest that this would change any time soon, and OP's speculation that WWE might change the name back is sheer guesswork, original research, and crystal ball reading. Until it does change back, we use whatever title WWE call it. Finally, I'd like to remind OP that the Big Gold Belt being retired is irrelevant. At the time being it does not represent the old WHC, it represents the WWE World Heavyweight Championship (just as it represented the Undisputed Championship after the WCW title was retired). If they do retire the BGB, then this belt will still be called the WWE World Heavyweight Championship until WWE say otherwise. — Richard BB 16:03, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose Entirely too speculative. A)No firm evidence that the Big Gold Belt will be retired. B) Even if it is, it is purely speculative that they'll drop the "World Heavyweight" from the title's name. C) We know for a fact that the title is presently called by the current article title. D) Even if the Big Gold design is retired, there's no reason to conclude that using only the new(ish) WWE Championship belt alone means that the shorter name will return just because the belt doesn't contain the words "World Heavyweight". See for example the TNA World Heavyweight Championship belt, which doesn't have the full name of the title on it either. While I would expect that using the short form "WWE Championship" will probably slip back into use, that doesn't translate to a rename to me. oknazevad (talk) 16:19, 28 December 2013 (UTC) PS, looks like Richard had the same idea at the same time.
• Oppose There is no evidence that they will drop the name and there is no good reason to assume that the name world heavyweight can't be used if the stop using the gold belt. Also, if the title is changed the article can easily be moved to whatever the new title is without much (if any) issues.--174.93.163.194 (talk) 18:52, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

For starters, thanks to Nick for seeing the previous discussion. With that said, the WWE Championship wasn't called the Undisputed Championship for even a year, and many of the wrestling dirt sites have said that the Big Gold Belt will be retired and the WWE Championship belt will eventually be the sole representation of the unified title. (Personally, I'd rather they would keep the Big Gold Belt and drop the newer design, but that's another story--at least it's an improvement over the "Spinner" belt.) It's not like WWE needs to classify weight classes anymore--they haven't had a true cruiserweight division since 2007 and even if they did still have it, SPOILER ALERT: it's all fake. That's why I created this discussion, to gauge people's reactions, but seeing that a decision was made at a prior point, I'm withdrawing the discussion for the time being. Jgera5 (talk) 22:08, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

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GA Nom

There is no way this can pass GA. It is under sourced and needs a copyedit, too many pictures, etc etc etc. It is an automatic fail. I should know. I expanded all of the TNA Championships to GA.--WillC 23:16, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Just to clear up confusion about the belts

There have been rumors going around that the Big Gold Belt had been retired.

Well, this photo from Battleground last night, with John Cena clearly holding both title belts should put that to rest.

Vjmlhds (talk) 15:48, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Info box fix

Someone messed with the info box. Needs to be fixed. Dunno how to do it myself. Jedi Striker (talk) 17:31, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

• Nevermind, I was able to fix it. Jedi Striker (talk) 17:39, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Pic of Cena with both belts

Since Randy Orton and Daniel Bryan had pics of both belts, I looked for one for Cena. Found one on ign.com, but having trouble with the form. I'm very unfamiliar with uploading picture files. Anyone want to take a crack at it? Or maybe tell me how to properly do it? Here's the address with the picture on it: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/07/01/john-cena-to-turn-heel-for-fey-poehlers-the-nest Jedi Striker (talk) 18:38, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2014

I have a picture of the new wwe championship with no background u can change the picture url to http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aaiw_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-wwe-Site/Sites-main/default/v1408477274401/images/large/W07717.jpg for a clean picture without cropping it Fxds400 (talk) 00:58, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Not done: Please make your request for a new image to be uploaded to Files For Upload. Once the file has been properly uploaded, feel free to reactivate this request to have the new image used.
Please note - you must own the copyright before you can make such a request at Files For Upload - Arjayay (talk) 08:00, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Current Champion picture

Admittedly, we don't know if Brock will still be Champion after Night of Champions 2014, but I'm pretty sure we could find a picture of him with the new belt, rather than one without? 182.55.99.33 (talk) 14:25, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Problem is, all pictures of him with the new belt seen thus far are copyright WWE, and therefore could only be used as fair use images, but our own non-free content criteria disallow any such use unless a free substitute doesn't exist. In this case, since the point of the image is to show Brock Lesnar, any free image is automatically superior to a fair use one for our purposes, and the current image is a free image as it was taken by a fan at an event who released it as such (and even there I think the WWE could conceivably make a fuss that a fan photo at one of their events is not purely free). So unless another fan happened to be sitting ringside at Raw last week and is willing to release their personal photos under a free use license (and even then, the WWE's rights might play a part), this is the best photo for the purpose. oknazevad (talk) 20:52, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Persistent Vandalism

I was wondering if there should be some consideration to making it more difficult for anonymous contributers to edit this article. After the event tonight, there was a lot of vandalism with regards to the Reigns section (Jillian Hall apparently won) and insisting Cena defeated Lesnar to become the new champion. Some of us had to do some reverting several times. Would a higher security level be possible? Chris 0095 (talk) 03:21, 22 September 2014 (UTC)Chris 0095

The article has been semi-protected (IP users and non-auto confirmed new users not allowed to edit) before, usually for short periods of time following a spate of vandalism. Considering that it has had to be done numerous times, and the vandalism begins again after expiration, I wonder if this is the type of high-profile, frequently vandalized article that should have permanent semi-protection. I'm usually loathe to suggest it, as page protection should be only doled out when absolutely needed (because of the open nature of Wikipedia), but this might be one of those places where it's needed. oknazevad (talk) 04:48, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Really?

"For the period between 2002–2013, the title was one of three world titles in WWE, along with the World Heavyweight Championship and ECW Championship (2006−2010)."

Why is the ECW title considered as a World title? Christian's WHC win in 2011 was considered his first world title by the WWE.WrestlingLegendAS (talk) 12:50, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

At the same time, Lashley was called one of the world champions during his reign. With Christian's case, the WWE was often very sloppy distinguishing between a world title, and the World (Heavyweight) Championship, often omitting the word "heavyweight" when describing it.They may have been referring to it being his first WHC title reign specifically. oknazevad (talk) 23:50, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

No, they called him a 2-time World Champion in 2012, they called CM Punk a 5-time World Champ (2x WWE, 3x WHC, no ECW). It's like the NXT title, the major title of its own brand, but no WWE world title.WrestlingLegendAS (talk) 21:06, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Yet, when they brought out the Undertaker to decide which championship to challenger for following the 2007 Royal Rumble, Lashley was there as ECW champ right along side Cena and Batista, the WWE and WHC holders. So, for a while at least, they did treat it as a third, equivalent world title. oknazevad (talk) 00:28, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Chavo Guerrero entered the 2008 Rumble as ECW Champion.WrestlingLegendAS (talk) 14:17, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

So clearly by then, they didn't consider it equal, though it had been the year before. I remember people being surprised/annoyed at Chavo's entry, saying it was crapping all over the ECW title and brand. But it was definitely considered a third world title for at least a while after its revival. oknazevad (talk) 16:55, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

So do we have too split it? World title for 1 year, midcard title for 3 years? Or just say in retrospective it was no world title? Just like the WWE Championship. It was a regional title from 71-83, but everybody consideres Sammartino a 2-time world champ, even though he won the title during that time period.WrestlingLegendAS (talk) 19:19, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

WWE regonized the ECW Title as a World title. http://espanol.wwe.com/shows/unforgiven/2008/7938432 When Matt Hardy won the title, WWE called it his "first World title". --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:22, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

But then there were times were they didn't call it a world title. Who knows for sure? WrestlingLegendAS (talk) 16:55, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Title problem

At first there were two titles named WWE Championship and World Heavyweight Championship. So two articles of these two championship should be created on Wikipedia. Then now the title is merged and it is called WWE World Heavyweight Championship. So another article should be created named WWE World Heavyweight Championship. So the records of previous retired championship should be written on new championship. Ric Flair is most title winner of WWE World Heavyweight Championship i.e 16 times as WWE call it. It has record on WWE that Ric Flair is most time champion. There should new articles on Wikipedia... Noxboy (talk) 12:40, 22 July 2015 (UTC) Noxboy (talk) 12:40, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

No. The curren title is the same lineage as the WWE Championship, and does not have the now-retired World Heavyweight Championship reigns in its history. That is a fact. Not to mention that the Big Gold Belt was not the same as the NWA title, so not all of Flair's titles were with that championship anyway. You are wrong. Period. Drop it and move on. oknazevad (talk) 15:38, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

But WWE calls Ric Flair as 16 time WWE World Heavyweight Champion Noxboy (talk) 08:49, 23 July 2015 (UTC) Noxboy (talk) 08:49, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

No they call him a 16 time World Heavyweight Champion. They know he only won the WWE title twice. Mister Q101 (talk) 09:52, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Listen nicely what commenters say. They say "John Cena is 15 times WWE World Heavyweight Champion and there is only one man more who is Ric Flair with 16 times" Noxboy (talk) 12:09, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Listen again and realise that you are not correct. They don't say WWE for Cena either. Drop it and move on please. Mister Q101 (talk) 22:51, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok Noxboy (talk) 13:57, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

WHW snub

Why do we not list the World Heavyweight Championship (WWE) from September 2002 – December 2013 as part of the history of this title's name? It clearly plays a role in the current title's name and aesthetics, possibly a more prominent one.

If you look at the title or when Seth Rollins is on TV, they will often just display the WWE logo (rather than the letters WWE) and then "World Heavyweight Champion".

To add on to this, during this match 10 August 2015 against Rollins for the title, the announcers are both saying he's a 12-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion and saying he could walk out a 13-time one.

So they are also counting his World Heavyweight Championship reigns toward his cumulative WWE World Heavyweight Championship reigns.

I think this is grounds to restructure how WHW is ignored. Ranze (talk) 03:04, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

No it's not, it's a separate title and it always was a separate title. The commentators referred to "World" Title including ALL world titles WWE recognise - including NWA and WCW (hence for instance they call Ric Flair a 16 time World champion when he only won this title twice). 121.219.61.6 (talk) 04:36, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Plus if they were referring to Cena's WHC title reigns, he'd be a 15-time champion, going for his 16th. Cena's held the WWE title 12 times and the now-retired WHC 3 times. oknazevad (talk) 05:22, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Edit request

We have a vandal who is not here to contribute I think. As of this comment, the title holder has been changed to CM Punk. It needs to be reverted and the user concerned blocked as he seems to have a history of this and nothing constructive. 1.136.96.185 (talk) 00:50, 27 August 2015 (UTC)