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Assassin, it's been moved. Just doing the same old. I saw an article about all the building going on in Karachi. Alot of tall skyscrapers going up with several overtaking the current tallest building in Pakistan. Is the Pakistani economy booming or just around Karachi? Bgwhite (talk) 05:27, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, it's great to see you asking about Pakistan. It's really booming now from the last 3 years, since the start of current government. Actually there is just politics in Pakistan, nothing more. They don't care whether Pakistani economy, morale, or respect are going down or not, and they don't care if Pakistan is on top of illiteracy and poverty. But this government is showing some good work, and now the terrorism's ratio in Pakistan is also going down because of this gov and army's Zarb-e-Azb operation. --Captain Assassin!«T ♦ C ♦ G»10:24, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Assassin Somehow, it's not comforting that the U.S. and Pakistani governments have alot in common when it comes to the economy, morale, respect and poverty. I have a feeling that military spending takes the biggest slice out of both budgets. Glad to see things improving and to see India's Prime Minister visiting Pakistan. I hope the borders eventually open up more, only as long as they keep Wagah border ceremony going. Bgwhite (talk) 19:07, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I just watched the Pakistani and border ceremonies; an interesting custom! It seems there's much more going on on the Indian site, or is that just this recording? — Sebastian07:58, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah Bgwhite, army takes a largest amount from the budget. @SebastianHelm: Border ceremony is really great and helpful for both countries' peace, and it's really enjoyable. The fun fact is that I lived for 3 years in Lahore and I had not watched the ceremony. --Captain Assassin!«T ♦ C ♦ G»16:48, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your explanation, Captain Assassin!. I wonder how this began, how it came to be so coordinated. I have a question for you about the article: It says "the Grand Trunk Road was the only road link between these two countries before the opening of the Aman Setu in Kashmir in 1999". But under See also I read "Ganda Singh Wala, Pakistan and Hussainiwala, India- site of the only other flag retreat ceremony on the India-Pakistan border". Is that the same as Amam Setu? Either way, the wording of the "See also" seems to imply that there are other border crossings that have no such ceremony. Are there currently more than two? — Sebastian17:26, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There's currently only two open. Ganda Singh Wala is another ceremony, but the border crossing has been closed for awhile. Now I need to find some video so I can watch that one too. If I ever see it in person, of course I'll watch from the Pakastani side because their soldiers naturally do the ceremony better. Um, Titto might read this. Um, of course I'll watch from the Indian side because their soldiers naturally do the ceremony better. Both Indian and Pakistani soldiers just cannot compete with the Duck march. Bgwhite (talk) 05:40, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Don't you now try to flatter us both, Bgwhite. No offence Titto, but Pakistani Rangers do with more courage and excitement and you can see that in videos. Come to Pakistan Bgwhite, and we will go together to watch the ceremony. --Captain Assassin!«T ♦ C ♦ G»14:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! I'm AMPERIO, sysop in gl.wikipedia.org. Yesterday I translated the article Antón Losada Diéguez into English using the translation app we have in wikipedia, although I tried to correct some expressions that sounded weird in English, your bot helped fixing some other problems it had. I'd like to thank you (or it) for that job and ask you that if you have time take a look to the article just in case any format is wrong or has any issues still to correct. Thank you very much! --AMPERIO (talk) 09:00, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is a clear instance of GIGO caused in part by the previous edit, which broke the refs. Sometimes garbage is a desirable result. If AWB were reprogrammed to "fix" those refs by somehow removing all appearance of a problem from the article, it would reduce the likelihood that a gnome would find and fix the actual problem. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:42, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
GIGO being the case, then why did you even bother performing the edit? It's not as if it improved the situation. GIFIX/GILIA would have been the proper thing to do.
Struck the apostrophe issue, I misremembered these replacements as yielding sensible results. Independent of that, not automatically stripping the apostrophes may be appropriate behavior for AWB, but this was not a bot edit. Basic editorial judgment says that they were not meant as part of the name. Paradoctor (talk) 11:08, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Eugene Lipov
Hi Bgwhite. Sorry if I mucked things up a bit at Eugene Lipov. I just saw a COI post on Materialscientist's user talk and thought I'd take a shot at cleaning it up a bit. I didn't realize what had been re-added was a copyvio. Anyway, I just tried to clean the page up a bit, but honestly I'm not too sure if Lipov satisfies WP:BASIC. If any of the changes I made were not appropriate, then just revert as needed. Thanks again. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:01, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Marchjuly You did nothing wrong. You didn't know it was a copyvio and your intent was to help out. I came to the article because of an error. My "spidey sense" went off on the wording, copied it into Google and came back as a hit. I think that means I've been around here way too much. Bgwhite (talk) 06:18, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the kind words. My "spidey-sense" must have really been on the fritz because usually apostrophes with that added space before the "s" are a good indication that something has been copied-and-pasted from somewhere else. Anyway, thanks for catching that because I would've probably just kept on going without a clue in the world that something was amiss. Does OTRS or an admin need to remove the problematic content from the article's edit history since it was a copyvio? -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:37, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Marchjuly As an admin, I surely know the answer... (five minutes later) Nope, it doesn't need to be deleted from the article's history. Generally, it is only removed when the copyright holder requests it. Bgwhite (talk) 06:44, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Marchjuly Well, I see you don't know that "J" in July should be capitalized, so I can tell you are "slow". :) Add to your vector.js file the following:
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Hi! A while ago you deleted Non-aeronautical revenue as a G12. We now have OTRS permission for the content at this page. What is supposed to be done here? Does the article get undeleted, or do I just need to ask you to annotate the talk page with the OTRS ticket number (which is 2015120310017686)? Thanks, regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:44, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Justlettersandnumbers I can undelete it. However, us lowly non-OTRS people can't see the OTRS ticket. Is there a place I could see the discussion or can you have who you talked to to leave a message here. Hmmm, Fluffernutter is an OTRS person and can undelete the article, maybe they can help. Bgwhite (talk) 07:42, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Justlettersandnumbers, I just looked at the OTRS ticket, and the article. I agree that it checks out, so I have undeleted the article. Having said that it will really need a rewrite, to the point that having the text licenced under CC will probably not matter in the long run... --kelapstick(bainuu) 20:20, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Sir
Why you are reverting my edit? it is very important for wiki credibilty to put needed clarifying information along with references, as well as omitting non objective , biased material. Could you please stop reverting my edit. Dr. Nabila Ghosn (talk) 05:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nabila Ghosn As I said in the edit summary, do not copy from SSNP's website. This is a copyright violation. The same edit was reverted before by somebody else for the same reason. Also, if you are copying SSNP's material, that is biased, non-objective material. Bgwhite (talk) 05:59, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I won't put the selected paragraph from "ssnp website", I'll just correct the typewritting mistakes along with other new data regarding the execution of Antun Saadeh. I 'll put the reference some time today.
How can I edit a mistake I have done, which is deletting the Footnote title? Footnotes now are enlisted under references. I'm trying to correct it but I cann't. It hapened when I was deleting a reference from footnote that I put before mistakenly. Dr. Nabila Ghosn (talk) 08:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In this edit, BG19bot removed |language=English from several cs1 templates. At one time, Module:Citation/CS1 added such templates to Category:CS1 maint: Unrecognized language so that |language=English could be easily discovered and removed. I have an AWB script that did that. But, the module no longer adds |language=English to the category. Instead, the it accepts the parameter but does not render the language portion of the citation. This was done to aid the translation project at WP:MED for whom the parameter has value. You might want to consider modifying that portion of BG19bot.
Trappist the monk The best course of action would be to file an AWB bug report. That way, it would be fixed for all AWBs. If I had to guess why WP:MED did this, it would be DocJames thinking every WP:MED article will be translated into every language. Bgwhite (talk) 23:41, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Trappist the monk Did I have the reason right? If so, maybe fixing this in Content Translator (CX) would be a better solution? For example, if an English article is being translated in French, CX would add "langue=Anglais" to the French cite template. Bgwhite (talk) 00:57, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know, that isn't my area of expertise. I just know that some editors have noted that keeping |language=en does no harm, and apparently is desirable at the WP:MED translation project. I don't think I want to speculate on particular editor's motivations. Doesn't CX first need to know that the template refers to an English source before it/they can choose the correct parameter/value pair for the target language? If AWB strips the parameter from the template, somehow that information needs to be recovered at CX, right? It would seem to me that by leaving |language=en in the template, that task is made easier. I'm speaking from ignorance here, so feel free to ignore it all.
Varna International Ballet Competition/Reverted to previous version
Hi, Bgwhite,
I saw that today you reverted the content of the "Varna International Ballet Competition" to its previous version, on grounds of Copyright violation. The thing is, that me and Ikamberov(who made the changes on the page), are authorized to use and share the text and the attached photos by the President of the "International Ballet Competition" foundation Dimitar Dimitrov. We want to contribute to the expansion of the article given that it currently constitutes 2 sentences.
As we both are new to Wikipedia and do not know the proper steps to take, could you please tell me what should we do next.
Hi
I would like to draw your attention to the user contributions - NihartouJasonyu. I think he's one of the side of previous wars in article Frederick Achom. he sent the same messages to 14 users to discussion page. I worry about that, because I'm a little upgrated Achom's page, and it's was deleted. by the way, page was nominated for the deletion today (19.01).
it's like vandalism: contributions only about Frederick and deletion section in AppyParking:
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thanks--27century (talk) 08:42, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
27century I'm not familiar with the article. The ones to ask is Jeff G. and Jimfbleak. They are already monitoring the page and giving suggestions. I'm not familiar with Jeff G., but Jimfbleak is an excellent editor and admin. Jimfbleak would be a better help than I could be. Bgwhite (talk) 23:29, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am amazed by how your user page (and talk page) is organized. I didn't think one could use html to do things on WP. Did you use an application to make this happen? I have access to Dreamweaver and I'd like to see how you did this. Thanks, Morgan Phoenix (talk) 01:31, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Morgan Phoenix Wish I could say thank you, but I found it on somebody else's page. I did some modifications, but nothing major. It The code for the talk page is at User talk:Bgwhite/Header and the user page code is already in the user page. It's a mashup of wiki templates and html, so Dreamweaver can't handle it. Bgwhite (talk) 18:23, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Liz Fraser
Hi Bgwhite, Thanks for your note on the Liz Fraser article, I didn't create the page, but thought I'd a add a few citations. I feel it could do with a good photo of her in the info box, but I can't find any public domain to use, I wonder if you can find anything and add one?
One more question, when citations are added as requested, who clears the original Wiki notice?
Best Regards Alfshire (talk) 11:23, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Alfshire Anyone is free to remove Wiki notices if they feel it is warranted. In both Google and Bing, one can search an image by license type. I searched, but didn't see any photos. Bgwhite (talk) 18:43, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
is this how i use wikipedias talk?
also, i was wondering why you undid my edits to the discordianism page? in the subject line you wrote, "No references. DO NOT SHOUT". what do you mean by that?
i noticed the discordianism page was obliterated from when i last saw it. eventually i learned how to use wikipedia a lil more and came to understand that for years wikipedia has been asking revisors to cite what they wrote on the page, but no one seemed to understand or had the will to make said citations, but i did. so i was wondering why you undid my changes?
Yes, this how to use a talk page. Among the concerns are:
"DO NOT SHOUT" means you used all capital letters. For example, "The ORIGINAL SNUB" doesn't need to be in all caps.
maximus: ok, i edited the page base on your input. i understand why you erased everything :) i would have too. but i think i did a much better job this time, although, not perfect i imagine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maximuswood (talk • contribs) 17:46, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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I made an accurate archeological research investigation in many old books I own about its history, I visited museums and contacted the direct sources, interview leading persons and scholars about the Lebanon immigration and the Mokarzels that lead to its independence. Please make a google search and tell me if you find anything about the Mokarzel in Spanish. I being researching for years about this. This message he sends to me in respond of the information, links about facts he reverted about Mokarzel.
I will get to it. I'm reviewing the links you sent. With some luck we can start a very nice article for Mr. Mokarzel ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 19:00, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Naoum's biography is gonna be awesome! he had a really interesting life. I am working on his article in my sandbox and I'm really hopeful. It will take some time before i post it to main space cos i want to be well researched and very well sourced. :D ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 09:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Contributions with historical facts are being reverted. I only wanted to contribute.
I blanked the Mokarzel articles I made. Problem solved. --Trinity Abbey (talk) 14:06, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Help with internal links
I see you (or rather WP:AWB) just removed two short sections I added yesterday, to Oliver Reed and Helena Kennedy. You characterised this as being "general fixes", perhaps because the internal links were not added in the correct format (although they work fine on my computer).
In both cases I was seeking to add a useful internal link to provide more context for what might otherwise be thought of as rather tendentious summaries of a not entirely well understood incident. Therefore I believe the links could usefully be included but wish to do so correctly before reverting.
Here is the link as I had it: might you be so kind as to let me know how best to add this to an article?
[[After Dark (TV series)#Oliver Reed and Kate Millett: "Do Men Have To Be Violent?"|Here]]
Two, there is already a wikilink to the TV series in the sentence before. Two right in a row is redundant.
Three, links are not usually done as "this programme and its aftermath are discussed further here". Just a general wikilink is all one needs. Bgwhite (talk) 10:03, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
User:Only seems to be the suckpuppet of User:GiantSnowman which seems to be a Wikipedia master eraser: Max Merkel, Alex Notman, Slaven Bilić and many others articles, he has a really long edits history, this user needs special watching ! Also User:Only acuse people for vandalism and deleting referenced text, User:GiantSnowman prefers to deletes around instead of doing the job properly, they have a mini band and act like superior users which is meatpupetry, is like mafie of wikipedia in my opinion !--176.221.34.226 (talk) 22:43, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
176.221.34.226, GiantSnowman is an admin, been around here a long time and is the person I goto for football advice. Only is also an admin and has been around here for a long time. Neither one are sockpuppets. They are reverting your edits because there are no references. You need to add refs. I would revert too. Please add references. Bgwhite (talk) 22:49, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
GiantSnowman deletes massive content of Wikipedia and expect other people to do the work, even if you go on other language wikipedia you can probably find reference! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.1.149.90 (talk) 23:01, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am worried for ENGLISH WIKIPEDIA PROJECT ! English wikipedia articles will be "white" blacked with no information because of this attitude !--103.1.149.90 (talk) 23:03, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
People are to busy to block sockpuppets instead of helping the quality and quantity of articles !! ANd because of this people will not edit anymore !! or will get block !! is a major problem in my opinion !! (I want the best in a bright future for Wikipedia !)--103.1.149.90 (talk) 23:04, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Some of those are not reliable refs. You can't write a huge amount of text with some refs at the end. The references go inside the article, not the end. Look at Messi for an example. One of key tenants of Wikipedia is everything must be verifiable. Football articles are notorious for people adding false information, by fans of the person and fans for other teams. Unless you add references in atleast every paragraph, things will be reverted. Their are rules around here, you need to abide by them. GiantSnowman is following the rules. Bgwhite (talk) 23:11, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
He is covered by the rules by the problem is that he expects other people to do it, to add inline cites and everything, he and other admins deletes and other users can cope with this because is fast to delete and hard to improve! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.1.149.90 (talk) 23:14, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
ANd many many articles are uncited and unreferenced if everyone will delete and expects others to add refs 50% will wikipedia english will be erase !! I constant watch some users and I see what they do !--103.1.149.90 (talk) 23:16, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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