Talk:Batman

Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2016

1. Leonard B. Robinson's name has been spelled incorrectly under the Batman Impersonators section. Please change Lenord to Leonard.

2. Also, Leonard now has his own wiki page. Once the edit above is done, link 'Leonard B. Robinson' to the link 'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_B._Robinson'.

Samrakesh (talk) 16:38, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

 Done - Arjayay (talk) 18:23, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Featured article

I have become very concerned, given that this is a featured article and, for the past several months, it has been heavily edited. Aside from adding new information, I really don't think this should be necessary given that it's, again, a featured article. Perhaps I'm missing something, but should it's status be reassessed? All of these edits and relatively massive changes seem a bit odd for an article of featured status. DarkKnight2149 21:56, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Since no one is responding, am I correct to assume that no one has a stake in this? DarkKnight2149 17:42, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

And on that note, I will be requesting a Featured Article review. Thank you all for your insightful responses. DarkKnight2149 01:30, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

If you are having problems getting responses here trying WP:COMICS might help in getting more input. I am not knowledgable enough with comics to be of much help though.--67.68.161.51 (talk) 22:58, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice, but the reason I didn't go there is because they primarily WikiProject Comics in general, whereas this only applies to this specific article. DarkKnight2149 23:34, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Infobox Image

There was a previous discussion a few months ago regarding the infobox picture. A potential candidate was an Alex Ross image but not deemed optimal. The current Jim Lee image was believed to be better, although not ideal since it does not show the full costume. As part of a recent campaign, DC Comics has released some promotional art of its characters with their costumes in full frontal view. This image (Image #1) of Batman was released in June 2016. It's also drawn by Jim Lee with inks by Scott Williams and Lex Sinclair. What are editors' thoughts of this image for the infobox? DrRC (talk) 17:21, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

For reference, the original discussion was at Talk:Batman/Archive 11#Alex Ross art. I'm partial to the current image, but honestly that's because I prefer the older costume. I can't deny that DrRC's proposed image is a better angle and pose.

On a related note, why is the picture from the Adam West show in black and white? The show was in color. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:49, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

My thoughts here. All proposed images are suitable fits for an infobox, would lean towards one of the new images. —DangerousJXD (talk) 21:57, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Argento Surfer, in retrospect, I don't think Image #1 is as good as Image #2 for the infobox. DrRC (talk) 02:02, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Here are some others. The artwork in Image #2 by Tony Daniel is of considerably higher quality, and I think it's the best candidate for the infobox. Also, it shows Batman in action doing what he does in the comics. Here are two Jim Lee images: Image #3 and Image #4. The latter, however, obscures the bat symbol in shadows. DrRC (talk) 22:49, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

An advantage the proposed image has over the current one is that it shows the full front of the costume and it's the one he wears in the current comic books (though that doesn't mean a lot considering it changes on a regular basis). However, I think the current image suits the article better aesthetically because it has a background that isn't plain white. So my position rests on this question: What do we (as a community) think is best for the article - aesthetics or showing more of the costume? I think there may be some discussion to be had there regarding what we want more from an infobox image. DarkKnight2149 02:54, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

I was thinking this also, and I believe aesthetics must also be considered but not at the cost of hindering the costume. Image #2 has the best of both aspects: it shows the costume and also has a good background aesthetic to it. While the overall image is important (like a background to put the character in context), I don't believe a proper view of the character and his costume should be hindered for the sake of background aesthetics. I think that's what we're seeing in the current infobox image: Batman is relatively small in the image, we see a shadowy profile, and the bat symbol is not fully visible. DrRC (talk) 03:27, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

I do agree that Image #2 is an improvement over the current one and the Rebirth one, as it addresses both concerns (aesthetics and giving a full view of the costume). I'm also fine with Image #4. I don't think we should use Image #3 because the symbol and costume represent the Dark Knight Returns version of the character rather than the mainstream Batman (it's from All Star Batman & Robin, a prequel series to TDKR). DarkKnight2149 04:22, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

I agree with you, with Image #2 being the best for the infobox. And yes, Image #4 is from a Frank Miller storyline, hence Jim Lee went with that style, and so it's probably best to steer away from that one. DrRC (talk) 04:36, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

I changed the infobox image using #2 per our discussion. DrRC (talk) 03:52, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

All right. If anyone reverts it, I guess we can direct them to this discussion. There doesn't seem to be any objections at the moment. DarkKnight2149 05:33, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Batman reboot film

I've noticed that, for months now, users have been trying to jump the gun on the Batman reboot and it's rumoured title "The Batman". So naturally, as soon as Affleck acknowledged the title, it made its way onto Wikipedia. Well, Affleck just clarified his statements. It turns out, not only is "The Batman" still not the official title, but the film is still in early development. I should probably remind everyone that we are not in a hurry. It's not official until it's official. I admit that, after Affleck made the initial statement, it looked like a confirmation. However, people have been trying to add this long before even that. Wikipedia will still be here when an actual announcement arises. Don't worry. DarkKnight2149 13:50, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2016

The last part under Robin is outdated as Damian was resurrected by Batman, and is the current Robin starring in both Teen Titans and Supersons. Harper Row never partnered with Batman, and is quickly fading to obscurity. Duke should be mentioned, even if he is not Robin and apparently going to function independently from Batman (?).

What about something like this (below) after the phrase 'After Stephanie Brown's apparent death, Drake resumed the role of Robin for a time.'

"When Dick Grayson temporarily became Batman in the late 2000s, he chose Damian Wayne, the ten-year-old son of Bruce Wayne and Talia al Ghul as his Robin in order to save the boy from himself [Batman and Robin (2009) #1, Secret Origins (2014) #4]. Damian eventually became his father's current Robin, and despite their similarities and Damian's violent upbringing, father and son were able to build a relationship [Batman and Robin (2011)]. Batman's new partner is Duke Thomas, who previously fought crime in a group of teenagers who took on the identity of Robin [Batman Rebirth #1, We are Robin (2015)]."