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Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/WikiProject used

I've created this article, based on the list that was on the EuroCity pages, to try and make it more informative and current. It's a work in progress, so it's still incomplete and a bit messy - any contributions to completing the page would be welcome. I noticed that a number of people are creating new articles for specific TEE/EC services, so this ties neatly into that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArtVandelay13 (talkcontribs) 16:58, 6 March 2013

AfD

The GEC Alstom Push-pull article has been nominated for deletion. Mjroots (talk)

IP adding values

Would someone please look at Special:Contributions/2001:268:C061:43BB:A422:6672:3371:F4C1. The editing looks confident although there is a {{convert}} error in GCR Class 9P (lbsq should be psi). It would be good if someone could check that the values are not made up. Johnuniq (talk) 08:11, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK,  Done, see these edits; note that some users, such as Andy Dingley (talk · contribs) and Timothy Titus (talk · contribs) had already removed or amended some of the additions by 2001:268: and I have not reinstated such removals. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:12, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
They're an IP hopper, see this. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:16, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Same guy's back, see Special:Contributions/106.161.151.240. A giveaway is the use of the invalid parameter |abbe=on --Redrose64 (talk) 21:22, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A TfD

I got word on my talk page today that the 1922 Locomotive Cyclopedia template is under TfD now. This is a fairly simple template that should be used like the Bioguide template. There is a copy on Google Books and we have several image scans on Commons. It seems to me that the biggest reason this hasn't been more widely used is that editors just don't know about it as much.

Please join the discussion. Slambo (Speak) 15:55, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Track gauge 4 ft 7.5 in

Can anyone confirm the source of {{Track gauge|{{Convert|4|ft|7+1/2|in|mm|0|abbr=on}}}} 4 ft 7+12 in (1,410 mm) [1] which appears in Standard gauge#Origins and in Template talk:Track gauge#A new one Peter Horn User talk 20:21, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Baxter, Bertran (1966). Stone Blocks and Iron Rails (Tramroads). Industrial Archaeology of the British Isles. Newton Abbot: David & Charles. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help) p. 56.


Peter Horn User talk 20:21, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Solved. 4 ft 7+12 in (1,410 mm) sourced. -DePiep (talk) 19:25, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Numerical locomotive classes no longer display correctly in categories

A recent algorithm change to the way categories display has inadvertently screwed up the categorization of many articles on Wikipedia including the locomotive categories of locomotives with numerical classes, so instead of displaying Class 01, 02 and 03 locos under "0", Class 11, 12, etc locos "1" and so on, it now lumps them all under "0-9", e.g. see Category:Deutsche Reichsbahn-Gesellschaft locomotives, Category:Imperial Royal Austrian State Railways steam locomotives, Category:Caledonian Railway locomotives and Category:Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway locomotives. There is a discussion about this at Wikipedia talk:Categorization#Category sorting update which you are invited to participate in. --Bermicourt (talk) 14:18, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

They do show correctly: ordered by number value (now 10 sorts after 2 = OK). The back side is that all numbers are lumped under one header "0–9", instead of the then "0 ...9" headers. However, the old grouping was not numerical. -DePiep (talk) 02:06, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@DePiep: Please can we keep discussion in one place, per WP:MULTI - as noted by Bermicourt, this is Wikipedia talk:Categorization#Category sorting update. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:45, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Redrose64: I think this was a helping reply. Explaining, not invoking a discussion, esp re has inadvertently screwed up the categorization. I don't think putting my reply in the discussion thread would add anything to that discussion. But I might be mistaken. -DePiep (talk) 11:44, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

panoramio closing, files on Commons

Panoramio is shutting down, but 400,000+ properly licensed photos have been uploaded to Commons. They need to be categorized and placed in the proper articles of course. If you want to do this, you should go to Commons:Category:Panoramio files uploaded by Panoramio upload bot and use the "search in category" box they've so conveniently provided.

I'm not really a railroader myself, but work on NRHP sites (and historic locomotives sometimes), and places in Pennsylvania right now. The above photo has a locomotive sticking it's nose out that looks kind of funny. Zooming in the front says "Old Express" and "LTD 110" in much smaller lettering. I'm guessing it's patched together from odd pieces, or maybe just worked inside a steel mill or similar. Just curious about what it is. Please ping me if you have a better guess. Smallbones(smalltalk) 20:34, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dynamic Depot Maps claims it's a former Pennsylvania Railroad station (http://depotmaps.com/Images/DepotPA/SharonPA.jpg). There's also an Erie Railroad station nearby with no image (http://depotmaps.com/DepotMap[PA].htm). ---------User:DanTD (talk) 21:29, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it certainly does look like a RR station from the photo link you gave, and similar enough in style to a lot of PRR stations. The engine is my real interest (and your link shows another view). It just looks odd to me. It doesn't have the usual red PRR plate on the front. The whole front and the smokestack look different. The yellow bands around the boiler(?) look phony. I'm no expert of course, but it just looks strange to me. Smallbones(smalltalk) 01:34, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK this site gives the following info, which tells me that it is a bit strange, but not overwhelimingly so.
110 0-4-0F 4'-8½" S OH ElPowCo "3bytheRiver" Restaurants, Sharon, PA display Heisler #54, 1940
Smallbones(smalltalk) 01:54, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's a fireless locomotive. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:17, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Smallbones(smalltalk) 17:45, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Painting on a hoarding at Evesham railway station

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Evesham_railway_station — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.43.227 (talk) 17:29, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Old merge proposal

Hey folks! While looking through old merge proposals, I stumbled upon a proposal from October 2013 to merge Trackage rights into Arrangements between railroads. No one has commented on the proposal for the last 3 years so I assume it's a fairly uncontroversial move. Railroads are one of the very many topics I happen to know nothing about, so any chance someone here could take a look and complete the merger if appropriate? Thanks a bunch! Happy editing! Ajpolino (talk) 21:33, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Maps Task force.

I posted the comment below to the Maps task force talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains/Maps_task_force two days ago. I got one response - which concurred with the difficulty of of constructing route diagrams - and which may of helped prove my point. So I raise here the question - How do we simplify the process so that people who have the knowledge actually want to do the job?. The entire rail network of Britain was diagrammed before it got so complicated. Little progress is being made now on the US system (and other big systems as far as I can tell.)

"As far as I can tell (from the postings to this page) little work is being done on this railmaps project. If I am wrong please accept my apologies - I must be looking in the wrong place. If I am right and little new work is being done can I suggest a reason. The process of constructing a route diagram, as I would like to do for railways in Wisconsin and the Midwest has become incredibly burdensome. It used to be that you could just copy, edit and paste but that now seems impossible. The system no doubt is more pleasing to those whose interest is programming graphics but has likely put off the rail hobbyist who has the data but little interest in the minutiae of how it displayed. Thoughts anyone"Wickifrank (talk) 22:00, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Link, please? to keep the WP:TPTHREAD together. Useddenim (talk) 23:05, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

DoneWickifrank (talk) 03:48, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]