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Unrelatable indicting.

When I fixed grammar in wikiHow article (changed one sentence from past perfect to present perfect) I was indicted for vandalism by General Ization, which is not considerable as reasonable for me. Even if I did a mistake in that sentence by misunderstanding, it shouldn't be considered as vandalism at least.

Do I not understand something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamro2000 (talk) 06:48, 11 December 2017 (UTC) ‎Hamro2000 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Hamro2000: Yes, apparently you do not understand English grammar. Whether or not you find it "considerable as reasonable", please stop making grammar "corrections" to articles here which in fact introduce grammatical and other errors, as well as edits that deviate from our Wikipedia Manual of Style. Your continuing to do so after already being warned represents vandalism. General Ization Talk 18:44, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Weird edit

I don't know why I made this weird edit. It obviously didn't fit my edit summary. You were right. -- BullRangifer (talk) 05:35, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@BullRangifer: Perhaps it's late where you are (as it is here). No worries. General Ization Talk 05:36, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Guild of Copy Editors December 2017 News

Guild of Copy Editors December 2017 News

Hello copy editors! Welcome to the December 2017 GOCE newsletter, which contains nine months(!) of updates. The Guild has been busy and successful; your diligent efforts in 2017 has brought the backlog of articles requiring copy edit to below 1,000 articles for the first time. Thanks to all editors who have contributed their time and energy to help make this happen.

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Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays
From Stave one of Dickens A Christmas Carol

Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail. Mind! I don’t mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country’s done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.

So you see even Charles was looking for a reliable source :-) Thank you for your contributions to the 'pedia. ~ MarnetteD|Talk 02:37, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:2.6.38.64

2.6.38.64 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Please block this user immediately. I'll start cleaning up. Thanks nagualdesign 14:49, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

...Oh, looks like you did all the tidying already. nagualdesign 14:50, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

December 2017

Information icon Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on User talk:69.126.139.22. Thank you. FormalDude talk 22:54, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Think I have that one covered. Review the IP's edit and its timing v/v other edits and the immediately preceding block pertaining to that same article. Also note that adding a "citation needed" template (even if improperly applied) as any IP's very first edit is suspect (especially when removing a perfectly reliable citation in the same edit). General Ization Talk 22:58, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I do see those edits by the blocked user. But it looks like that citation that User:69.126.139.22 removed was actually a citation to a dead link, and therefore good faith. I just deleted it myself. So that may not have been the same user on a different IP, and therefore doesn't warrant an immediate level 5 warning. FormalDude talk 03:28, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
FormalDude, we don't remove deadlinks. They are the evidence needed for someone to track down a source that might be live or archived. Please restore it, and please ping me here. Maybe I can find it. -- BullRangifer (talk) 04:53, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@BullRangifer: I already replaced it with a link to archive.org. General Ization Talk 04:57, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Good. -- BullRangifer (talk) 05:00, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@BullRangifer: I did not know. Thank you and sorry for the trouble. —FormalDude talk 07:19, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Boves massacre

I'm not sure I can understand the Wikipedia policies, and how far can go the admin's power. However, did I delete or edited a legitimate talk page comment? I only asked why he undone all my work, bringing back the page to a poorer condition. Then the conversation is disappeared and I sent a new message? Did I do something bad? Maybe the conversation has been deleted by me? If it's so, then I must have done it by mistake. All what I wanted was to improve the article about the Boves massacre, then I wanted know why my work has been deleted. We had a conversation, then it's vanished (maybe by my fault, I don't know) so I reposted it. My meaning was to help Wikipedia, not to make a damage, but if you think what I do is bad for the project then I can also quit, for the Wikipedia's sake. Do you wanna see the vanished conversation, so you can have a better idea on what's happened? Best regards, Charlie Foxtrot66 (talk) 18:03, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Charlie Foxtrot66: Hohum made a conscious decision to remove your comments from their Talk page here. Your restoring the comments, as here, and by doing so overriding the editor's decision, constitutes harassment. If you think that Hohum has acted improperly, you can take up the issue at the Administrator's Noticeboard, but don't repeatedly restore your comments at that editor's Talk page. General Ization Talk 18:10, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Charlie Foxtrot66: Also, you might actually read the replies you had already received to your questions, which appear to me to be legitimate answers to them, whether or not you like them. General Ization Talk 18:23, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, it's fine. I am sorry for my bad behaviour, I only wanted to give a help. Maybe is better if I stop working on Wikipedia and I let you do it that you can do better? I am sure that you can edit the Boves massacre and many other articles much better than how I do, even if I don't understand why you didn't do it yet. You know, it's a work, and I am not getting payed, I cannot take the risk of seeing everything deleted in this way, maybe is better if you edit the articles and I spend my time in some other way. Have a nice evening Charlie Foxtrot66 (talk) 19:37, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Charlie Foxtrot66: We agree then that it will be better for you to stop editing Wikipedia if you are not prepared to work collaboratively with other editors, for them to revert your edits when they are found to be less than constructive, and to listen when they give you good advice. General Ization Talk 16:08, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Regis is arberesh.

So ask it by your self, you igniorant . Tell the truth . Do you know what arberesh are ? When you dont know a thing take a step back . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.73.129.245 (talk) 19:43, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I know what the Arbëreshë people are. Do you know that when they immigrate to the United States, they are still Italian Americans? Do not attack other editors here unless you would like to be blocked from editing. General Ization Talk 20:16, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mauro Milhomem

Thanks for the edits at the Mauro Milhomem entry on List of rampage killers, you may also want edit the Mauro Milhomem page on Amok Wiki. Can you give me more information about the case? Since i did not know the date where it happened, and you apparently added that the incident happaened on June 1.--Cientific124 (talk) 20:35, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Only what I read (machine-translated) at the cited source concerning his wife's suicide. Can't find anything else on it. "... her husband and seven people died while four others were injured on Sunday morning [published 6/6/80, the preceding Sunday being 6/1/80]. ... The pilot [aimed] the plane at the Presidente Hotel owned by his mother-in-law ... but failed to reach the target completely. He hit the right wing on two light poles, [struck] a two-story building and struck the central ridge of Praca da Rotula, the main Barra do Garcas." General Ization Talk 20:40, 28 December 2017 (UTC):[reply]
Thanks, sorry for posting this, i posted because i don't know to count days propely, thanks!. And also, i will remove the "Piloted an Embraer EMB 721 Sertanejo single-engine aircraft into a hotel owned by a family member." text in the Additional notes, because it is not appropriate for the article.--Cientific124 (talk) 20:35, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not appropriate how? General Ization Talk 20:46, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know. But i think its because the Addtional notes are only used for brief texts concerning the fate of the perpetrator, probably to not make the entry long.--Cientific124 (talk) 20:35, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Cientific124: Since a) there is no article for Milhomem (nor enough sources found to justify one) and b) the only source is not in English, I don't think the minimal explanation of the reason he appears in this list is excessive by any means. I went to the effort to assure myself that he even belonged on this list (as the preface to the section notes, airplane crashes are hard to characterize as rampage killings, in this case without knowing that he apparently targeted his mother-in-law's hotel). There's no reason the next editor to read this should have to go to the same effort. Unless you can find that policy documented somewhere, I'd ask you to restore the information I added. General Ization Talk 20:54, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@General Ization: Since Mauro Milhomem is a rare case of suicide by pilot in Brazil, he will probably get an article, i presume that i will eventually find more information concerning him, and make an article on him, so people read. But i suspect why info on this case is so hard to find, since it is a suicide by pilot in Brazil with a large death toll, which the country probably never had a case like this.--Cientific124 (talk) 21:06, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@General Ization: I finally discovered more info on this case, i think i will probably make an article on it.--Cientific124 (talk) 22:37, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@General Ization:I created an article about the disaster. here.--Cientific124 (talk) 00:26, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I made a few improvements, mostly English grammar, phrasing and spelling. However, please check, since I was not reading the non-English sources you used, that I didn't introduce any false information in the process. General Ization Talk 02:51, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the edits!.--Cientific124 (talk) 04:29, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for Creation Reviewing

Hello, General Ization.
AfC submissions
Random submission
4+ months
2,904 pending submissions
Purge to update

I recently sent you an invitation to join NPP, but you also might be the right candidate for another related project, AfC, which is also extremely backlogged.
Would you please consider becoming an Articles for Creation reviewer? Articles for Creation reviewers help new users learn the ropes of creating their first articles, and identify whether topics are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Reviewing drafts doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia inclusion policies and guidelines; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After requesting to be added to the project, reviewing is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the reviewing instructions before making your decision. Thanks. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 02:28, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year

Happy New Year!

Best wishes for 2018. —Donner60 (talk) 07:11, 31 December 2017 (UTC) [reply]

Happy New Year, General Ization!

Happy New Year!

General Ization,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Boomer VialHappy Holidays! • Contribs 07:21, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Jordan Maron

Hello General Ization, just fyi: I have asked for semi-protection until the crowd calms down ;), but the request is still queued. GermanJoe (talk) 22:27, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts

Take the time to look to the consensus listed in the archives of the Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt talk page. The content of the reception section of that page was debated at length and a consensus was reached. You've repeatedly reverted both the UKS and Tina Fey pages to include the edits of a single user who vandalized both pages to add all of the content you've reinstated. I'm simply attempting to counter two instances of vandalism; I'd appreciate it if you'd stop slapping needless warnings on my talk page. 2423tgiuowf 22:37, 1 January 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renamed user 2423tgiuowf (talk • contribs)

Please point out the "consensus" at Talk:Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt/Archive 1#Keeping the controversies mentioned in the "reception" section. I see none; I see a proposal you made, and no acceptance by other editors (and the advice "It is undeniably true that you are a minority of one. If you want more opinions, start an RfC or something."). If you would like to restart that discussion, please do, but do not revert to your preferred content again unless you would like to visit WP:AN3. General Ization Talk 22:44, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
User Quirky-artist-charlie proposed that the controversies be summed up in "one or two sentences," a proposal I agreed to; ergo, the WP:CONSENSUS. I drafted the one or two sentences, per the WP:CONSENSUS, and while one user still objected (the user you've cited, who was operating under the incorrect assumption that I wanted the information removed entirely [ergo, his comment about my being a "minority of one"], which was clearly false given that I later included the information on the page personally after charlie and I agreed to the length of the descriptions), these were the changes that were ultimately implemented without controversy, per the above WP:Consensus. Another user (who had a history of adding these sorts of things to pages and who has been AWOL from the site for months) later went and reinstated his original edits without taking it to the talk page, as well as re-writing the critical reception for a film on the page for Fey to read more negatively (indicating a pattern of WP:NPOV). The pages remained this way until one user reverted my reversions, citing my lack of reasoning, which I then gave in reinstating the original reversions of the original case of vandalism. That's really it. This seems to be a simple misunderstanding to me. Renamed user 2423tgiuowf (talk • contribs — Preceding unsigned comment added 23:00, 1 January 2018 (UTC) [reply]
Do you think I can't read? "If Anonymouse5454 has their way, then we would be bleaching a significant part of this show's reception to make it appear entirely positive, when opposition to redface/yellowface would say a little otherwise. At the very least, there should be a sentence or two regarding the show's very evident controversy." This was not an "agreement" between you and Quirky-artist-charlie; it was an expression of dissatisfaction with your edits up to that point. Q-A-C made no further comment in that discussion. There was and is no consensus. And when you edited the article today, you in fact showed that Quirky-artist-charlie's concern was well-founded. You were, as another editor stated, a minority of one in feeling that this content shoujld be removed, and you still are. Leave it alone. General Ization Talk 23:08, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You're absolutely wrong, but I won't be pursing this any further. I would suggest that you reassess the way you speak to other users. That was out of bounds and ridiculously combative. Renamed user 2423tgiuowf (talk
"That was out of bounds and ridiculously combative." Referring to what? General Ization Talk 23:16, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Laverne Cox

The Internet Movie Database supports the change in date, unless there are two persons with the same name. I reverted the first edit because the user put different years in two different places. But the IMDB supports the older age (b. 1972). So I think that the edit should be restored and second message stricken. Unless I have missed something here, of course. Donner60 (talk) 03:17, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

IMDB is not a reliable source for biographical data, because it is user-edited. See WP:CITINGIMDB. And yes, you have missed something: 1) that we have reliable, cited sources in the article for the 1984 birthdate, and 2) that to change content here, you must provide a reliable, cited source that supports the change (which you repeatedly did not do). General Ization Talk 03:19, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies, I thought you were the IP. General Ization Talk 03:20, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It remains that the only reliable source we have places the date of birth in 1984. General Ization Talk 03:22, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:184.147.29.185

Reported. I did a mass rollback of the anon's mass deletions. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 04:52, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Milwaukee Bucks

Hello! I just wanted to let you know I reported the user to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Happy editing, HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:31, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:37, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"universally known as the auto capitol of the world"

it may be a quote (from nba.com), but it is a huge overstatement :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dedee73 (talk • contribs) 05:59, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Dedee73: The subjects of our articles are allowed to make overstatements; we are not allowed to "correct" them. If you think the quote should be removed from the article, discuss it with other editors on the article's Talk page. General Ization Talk 06:02, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Black Panther Party copyright dispute

My initial (and skeptical) assumption was that the first warning regarded my usage of quotes from the LA Times review and the link you inserted was a response to my issue with the lack of citation for the first sentence (hence the "citation needed"). First, was my usage of quotes from an issue at all as far as Wikipedia's copyright policy is concerned, and if so, was my paraphrasing in my next revision acceptable? (I understand that Malik Shabazz's beef was with the quality of my sourcing, but I'll resolve that with him and the talk page.)

After reading your second warning on my talk page and your second revision to the article however, it seems you're convinced that I copied from the link you referenced. I did not copy from that link - the only copied text I retained verbatim was that which was in the article before I started editing it. Second, I know this is probably a better question for the talk page, but would it at least be worth it to re-cite that textbook link without re-inserting (while quoting or paraphrasing instead) the copied text?

Thanks for your time. DrPepper47 (talk) 04:18, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please continue the discussion on the article's Talk page. General Ization Talk 17:22, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

IP Vandal

Sorry to bother you, I know you're not an admin, but you probably know more about this stuff than me. Are we allowed to use rollback indiscriminately on the following block-evading IP: 184.146.207.74 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) Thanks in advance. BytEfLUSh Talk 02:35, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@BytEfLUSh: My opinion is yes, we are. However, they've now been blocked, which should make life easier. General Ization Talk 02:52, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, ok. Thank you anyway, at least now I know in case more of his socks appear. Hopefully, not anytime soon. =) BytEfLUSh Talk 02:58, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Kraft Edit Reverts

Hello,

My apologies to be a bother, but I recently edited the Robert Kraft article on Wikipedia to include a sentence about him going to the Mayweather vs. McGregor fight. However, you later reverted the article back to the state it was in prior to its update. From what I understand, you mentioned that the reason that my edits were reverted were due to them being considered "news".

I understand the desire to keep Wikipedia strictly factual, and appreciate your moderation, but at the same time, I'm curious as to why the sentence about the Mayweather vs. McGregor fight was removed, but the paragraph above it (about a video tape featuring Kraft helping Rikki Noel Lander with an audition) can remain on the page when it is of a similar nature.

Given that Kraft regularly spends time with other celebrities, shouldn't we be allowed to mention that in his profile in some way? (If so, is there any preferred way that would be best to do that?)

Please see below for the URL that shows the particular edit that I am referencing in the above question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Kraft&oldid=819192938

Thank you for your time. I appreciate it.

Thanks!

108.7.222.161 (talk) 03:00, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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