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Comment on your recent usage of Huggle on my talk page

Thanks for trying to protect my personal talk page from vandalism, but the guy merely was just moving our discussion to the correct spot. Pay more attention next time, okay? EMachine03 (talk) 22:37, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@EMachine03: Yep, sorry about that. All I saw was a user moving content on your talk page, with no edit summary. Being that there was no edit summary, and I have yet to develop telepathic abilities to know what an editor wants to do without an edit summary, I was unable to judge what said editor was doing. Sorry for the mistake, and thank you for informing me. Happy editing! Vermont | reply here 22:42, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hey again, Did you manage to take a look at my page? Brendan Brendancarr (talk) 17:17, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry. Evidently I forgot about that. I'll check it out in a bit. Vermont | reply here 17:55, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Brendancarr:. If there's any edits you'd like to make to the article about you, feel free to copy the current revision of Brendan Carr (don't edit it, just copy the source code) over to User:Vermont/sandbox/Brendan Carr and make your changes. I will notice that you edited my sandbox, and will review it and move it over to Brendan Carr if it is suitable. Or, you can just message me as I am always open to helping :) Vermont | reply here 19:01, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Vermont, I will try, but I really struggle with screen time right now due to this medical issue I have, All the work I done on the page last night I did with a friend, he spent ages working on it for me, he had never used Wikipedia before either. Everything I wrote was in that previous edit that Klueske removed. Brendan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brendancarr (talkcontribs) 19:16, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, that's fine. What I did to the article was take the source code from the edit right before Klueske removed all of it, and I sorted it into a list format and cleaned up some of the content, then replaced the content that was there with my new content. Vermont | reply here 19:21, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all your help, much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brendancarr (talkcontribs) 19:28, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hey buddy, I need you help again, I keep getting mistaken all over the internet for a US politician called Brendan Carr, it's been going on for a while now and seems to now have started for the first time on my wiki talk page, is there anyway you can turn my page into a page similar to that of the politician where the word Actor or British Actor appears next to my name in the same way another Brendan Carr has Doctor and another Irish politician I believe this would help to stop this happening to me on Wikipedia also, please have a read of what's been posted and see if you can make anything of it lol.

Thank you

Brendan

p.s. my Wikipedia headshot was removed despite the copyright owners writing in and granting permission as I was asked to do again any ideas whats going in there also.


@Brendancarr: I just checked, and what has happened is that there's a hatnote on the top of your article (the main, most notable Brendan Carr) that links to the other two Brendan Carr's in case the visitor going to your article meant to go to another person with your name. I don't see why they would confuse you for this guy, but when someone types in "Brendan Carr" they are sent to your article. For now, there is no need that I see to move you to "Brendan Carr (actor)". Regarding your picture, I am going to message some people on IRC and see what the issue could be, as I'm not very skilled when it comes to images. Feel free to contact me if you have any further questions. Vermont | reply here 12:15, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Vermont, did you manage to find anything out about my photo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brendancarr (talkcontribs) 19:10, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Brendancarr: Other than that they were deleted, I was unable to find any information. I recommend that you have someone take it themselves, make an account themselves, then upload that image as their own work. Otherwise, it could be deleted as a copyright violation. Also, in the future, feel free to make new sections on my talk page rather than reusing this old one. The archive bot is going to remove this soon. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me :) Thanks, Vermont | reply here 19:14, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

edit Warring

There have now been more than 3 reverts on the David McGimpsey article in under 24 hours. Such behavior is afoul of WP:3RR and can result in actions against an editor for "edit war." Collect (talk) 14:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Collect, I already blocked and unblocked for this. Vermont is aware of the issues, and has promised to be more careful in the future. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:13, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry - I only noted the other party was currently blocked, and that the damage appears to be ongoing. Collect (talk) 14:16, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This happened more than 24 hours ago. It has been dealt with. I falsely assumed that WP:3RRBLP applied, when it did not. Vermont | reply here 14:49, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Removing my edit to aviva page

I added a source as you requested. It is bloomberg. I do not think that my edit constituted vandalism. It is latest news about Aviva. I am happy for other users to clarify. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.175.116 (talk) 00:23, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oshwah reverted the edits that you made after I reverted your first one. The content was unencyclopedic in terms of tone, and could be construed to be a WP:NPOV issue. Vermont | reply here 00:27, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Black genocide

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Dave Ogilvie

Hello Vermont. I am new to editing anything on Wikipedia. I am trying to make the page on myself more complete. Can you help me do it. Thanks Dave Ogilvie Rabbitwithhorns (talk) 11:23, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Rabbitwithhorns: As the subject of the article, you are strongly discouraged from editing your own article, due to your conflict of interest. Please only edit it in order to correct obvious mistakes, like an incorrect age or hometown for example. Thank you for your interest in improving your article, but your recent contributions were copyright violations from your website (iirc) and were promotional, so they were removed. Feel free to ask me any questions you have :-) Vermont | reply here 11:27, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Copying licensed material requires proper attribution

Hi. I see in a recent addition to Constructed wetland you included material from a webpage that is available under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license. That's okay, but you have to give attribution so that our readers are made aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. I've added the attribution for this particular instance. Please make sure that you follow this legal requirement when copying from compatibly-licensed material in the future. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Diannaa: I think you may have confused me for someone else. I have never edited that article. Vermont | reply here 14:48, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I did, so sorry. You were the person who reviewed a report on this article at CopyPatrol and my notice was intended for the editor who added the content. Here's what I did: I added attribution at the article with this edit, and then pasted a note on the wrong user talk page. You could do these steps yourself if you find such cases at CopyPatrol in the future (except don't put the notice on the wrong user talk like I did) :) — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:58, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Diannaa: I discovered CopyPatrol two days ago and am still getting used to it, sorry. I'll do that myself next time (i was unaware we needed to add that attribution). Thanks, and happy editing :-) Vermont | reply here 15:17, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's not actually mentioned in the instructions, but that's the way I do it. Notifying and educating people is a good idea as well! Hopefully the more teaching we do the less work there will be at CopyPatrol in the future. Thank you so much for the work you've done so far on copyright clean-up, it's much appreciated. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:29, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I spent a few hours working on an addition to the Market Basket Protests page and it was flagged for copyright infringement. Is okay if I rework my addition? There was identical phraseology, but my additions were were carefully structured for clarity and the repeated phrases are not essential to the article so they can be easily removed. I am new to Wikipedia so I appreciate your feedback and help. Thanks. ( Riebennacht (talk) 22:04, 16 March 2018 (UTC) )[reply]

Your edit was a copyright violation. If you want to add content, please write it yourself rather than copying from non-free sources. Vermont | reply here 22:07, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I agree. ( Riebennacht (talk) 22:25, 16 March 2018 (UTC) )[reply]
I am having trouble finding the CopyPatrol case. When I search for Market Basket protests nothing shows up. The autoflag says it can be found at 35339739 but I'm not sure what to do exactly in order to view it. This is a learning experience and I'd like to make a good contribution to the page. Thank you. (Riebennacht (talk) 22:44, 16 March 2018 (UTC))[reply]
@Riebennacht: Go here for the CopyPatrol case. Also, I moved this conversation to the bottom, as that is usually where new talk page messages go. Vermont | reply here 22:49, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Vermont: Amazing! Thank you so much. Also, I am curious, how/why did you start contributing to Wikipedia? It's a whole new world that I am very excited about. (Riebennacht (talk) 23:06, 16 March 2018 (UTC))[reply]
@Riebennacht: Well that's a long story. I started out by making an article, Ira Tiffen, then from there I got interested in how Wikipedia worked, so I started doing recent changes patrol. I then expanded to New Page Patrol and Articles for Creation. Nowadays, my "main" wiki is the Simple English Wikipedia, where I do a lot of anti-vandal work. I discovered CopyPatrol two days ago and am doing that here in my free time :) If you have any questions I can help answer, feel free to ask me. Vermont | reply here 23:10, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Vermont: Just rewrote my article addition to the Market Basket page! That's very interesting... Why/how Ira Tiffen? Also, what do you suggest for new editors who are trying to gain their bearings. I feel like I don't know what I don't know at this point. (Riebennacht (talk) 00:06, 17 March 2018 (UTC))[reply]
@Riebennacht: I honestly forgot how I got started here. I found comfort in recent changes patrol, although that didn't last long. I'll link a few areas you could possibly help out in: WP:RCP. WP:CopyPatrol. You could also do some work making articles. For example, I was reading an article about Instant Pot, googled it, realized there wasn't an article, so I made one. Vermont | reply here 00:08, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

HERB RAGLAN - PLEASE RESTORE WHAT WAS ENTERED EARLIER UPON READING BELOW - THANK YOUR -

GOOD DAY -

WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE UP ALL OF THE HERB RAGLAN / ' RAGS ' RAGLAN BIOGRAPHICAL DATA ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO WHERE PEOPLE DERIVED WHAT IS NOW SHOWN ALL OVER THE WEB FROM US - STADIUM SPORTS INTERNATIONAL / HOCKEY - AND WE NEVER WERE GIVEN ANY CREDIT ... NOTHING !!!

TO-DATE, WE HAVE ENTERED OVER 5,000 CORRECTIONS / ADJUSTMENTS / UPDATES ON ALL THESE BARIOUS WIKIPEDIA PAGES / CATEGORIES AND ARE REALLY RATHER TIRED OF ALL YOU SO-CALLED ' EDITORS ' WHO KNOW NOTHING OF THESE SPORTS OR MILITARY TOPICS AS HAVE HAD TO TELL TOO MANY OF YOU PEOPLE TO SHAPE UP AND DO SOME RESEARCH ...

THEREFORE, PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING NOW AND RESTORE ALL WHICH WAS ADDED EARLIER TODAY, BEING ENTIRELY 100 % CORRECT / ACCURATE / TRUTHFUL AS THERE IS NO REFERENCE FOR SOMETHING CREATED BEFORE 1990 WHICH CAN BE LOCATED TODAY AND YOU KNOW THAT TO BE THE TRUTH, TOO ...

IF YOU WISH TO DO SO, PLEASE CALL MR RAGLAN HIMSELF DIRECTLY AT - 705-749-MEAT - IN PETERBOROUGH, ONTARIO, AND READ THE ENTIRE ENTRY WE ADDED TODAY TO HIM AT WHICH TIME HE WILL AGREE WITH EVERYTHING ...

ALSO, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE STOP TELLING PEOPLE TO REMOVE THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER IF YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT SPORTS WHICH I KNOW FEW OF YOU DO AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO PLAYED THESE GAMES, IN OUR INSTANCE BASEBALL AND HOCKEY, WE KNOW ALL THESE FORMER PLAYERS, HAVE INTERVIEWED HUNDREDS TO THOUSANDS OF THEM FOR TV / RADIO / BOOKS / PAPERS AND SUCH FOR OVER 55 YEARS ...

IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER ISSUE WITH THE ABOVE THEN PLEASE SEND AN EMAIL TO - CLAYMARSTON@HOTMAIL.COM -

THANK YOU VERY MUCH - COLONEL77

FRIDAY 16 MARCH 2018 - 9:37 PM

@COLONEL77: It appears your caps lock key has malfunctioned. I would recommend getting that checked out. Now, straight to the point: you added copyrighted content to an article, in this case Herb Raglan. As it is copyrighted, it violated policy and copyright laws and therefore was removed. I must stress: do not re-add this content. Thank you, and feel free to ask me any questions you may have :) Vermont | reply here 01:42, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Milhist

Thank's for welcoming me, although I've been in the project for a while but had forgotten to update it after I changed my username. Vermont | reply here 23:46, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source added on this article K M Mozibul Hoque

Hi Vermont, I already added several sources on this article K M Mozibul Hoque. Actually, I work on that time when you add a tag in the article. --Hasivetalk 11:25, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for adding sources, but at the time of it falling into my NPP feed it was an unsourced BLP (see WP:BLPPROD). Therefore, I tagged it and moved on. Remember, if you're working on an article that could take some time (like this one) you can use your userspace or a draft to make sure it's compliant with WP:BLP policies before it hits the mainspace. Thanks, and happy editing! Vermont | reply here 11:28, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted disruptive edits

Hi, I have reverted your disruptive edits to Horizon Chase. I'm not sure why you would sign up to be a reviewer if you will only delete article content and sources, making the article untenable. I don't believe that the article is POV at all, as it clearly states some grievances a reviewer had with the game. There were simply not many stated "downsides" to the game given by most reviewers. You should have checked the sources before assuming that it was an opinion. I have added another "negative" to the reception section, but that could have been done without such extreme measures.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:54, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll write my reply to this later tonight when I get to my computer. Thank you for contacting me on my talk page, I will be glad to discuss why I made those edits (and why I intend to do more than just remove that section). :-) Vermont | reply here 18:36, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker)Zxcvbnm Vermont's edits were in no way disruptive. Could you please explain how you've come to this conclusion? Perhaps you should take a look at WP:CIVILITY.CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:10, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion wholesale of an entire section of the article, without merit. The section paraphrased sources and while it may have grounds for adding more criticisms of the game, that is no reason to remove it entirely and add (obviously false) tags to the article. I as the creator was not notified prior to this despite obviously making the article in good faith. The deletion could easily lead to the page being caught up in a lengthy AfD due to all the sources being removed.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 19:36, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, that's not grounds to accuse someone of disruption. It was a good faith effort by a page reviewer, which several editors, myself included agree with the tag addition. Anyone can see the history of an article so the idea that removing contentious or NPOV content would somehow cause an otherwise notable topic to get "caught up in an AfD" is laughable at best. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:39, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]


@Zxcvbnm: I was going through my normal morning NPPing on my iPhone when I stumbled across Horizon Chase. It has a myriad of issues. Since you seem to be adamant that the article is, "not POV in the slightest" (Source), I've taken the liberty of preparing a list to outline NPOV errors and general problems I found when reviewing your page.
  • To begin, we have the lead. First sentence is great. Here's the rest of the lead: "A 3D game, it touts the fact that it has a unique retro aesthetic inspired by 2D, 16-bit titles. It soundtrack has been referred to as "Sega-core", in reference to that publisher's classic racing games. The game received positive reviews from critics, who praised its visuals, gameplay and soundtrack, calling it one of the best racing games on iOS at the time of its release." I don't think that there is any way to argue that the last sentence in that quote is not promotional . The first sentence of that quote isn't something that should belong in the lead as it doesn't matter what the game "touts" (sounds like puffery). It's also unsourced, but that doesn't matter as long as you mention it later in the article (you don't). Regarding the middle sentence, it does not matter what it has been referred to as. It does not matter what people think of it (in this case), or whether they like the game. We are, first and foremost, an encyclopedia (first pillar) and we are not here to convey to our readers what certain game critics like. (see WP:NOT)
  • Moving on to the "Gameplay" section. It's not bad per se, but I would reword "Additional twists to the racing formula" to make it more neutral.
  • Regarding the "Development" section. It's a summary of an interview. (see WP:RS) The section also only addresses the soundtrack development, which I'd assume is less important than the game itself. The bit about the marriage proposal could be phrased more clearly for non-native readers but it's good for now.
  • "Reception", the section that I removed and you reverted. Per WP:NOT#SOAP, information included must be independent, third-party reliable sources free of puffery. I'll blockquote the section below:

Horizon Chase received positive reviews, with an aggregate score of 88/100 on Metacritic. Carter Dodson of TouchArcade rated the game 5/5 stars, praising the game's visual style, soundtrack and controls, and calling it a "template for how other developers need to do retro-inspired games." Harry Slater of Pocket Gamer rated the game a 9/10, calling it "a bright and brash arcade racer that looks stunning", while saying that its gameplay is good enough to back up its presentation. He noted that the game got "a little grindy at times", though calling it "the type of grind you're happy to wade through". The site awarded the game the "Gold" award.[2] Tom Christiansen of Gamezebo rated the game 3.5/5 stars, calling the visuals "solid" and praising the soundtrack, but saying he disliked the auto-turn assist system that was impossible to turn off, also calling the AI "impossibly fast" and unlocking new cars overly difficult.

All but the last sentence is extremely promotional. It's not a matter of adding more negative reviews, as you hinted by saying "it may have grounds for adding more criticisms of the game" in an earlier comment on my talk page. This is a matter of removing reviews fully. Again, we are an encyclopedia, and our purpose is not to sway readers to support purchasing a product or refraining from purchasing such product. Removing biased reviews (unlikely to be independent) is supported by community consensus outlined in WP:NOT. I recommend that you review WP:RS.
So, regarding your message on my talk page. I'll echo what Chrissymad said: you may want to take a look at WP:CIVILITY, or the fourth pillar of what runs this community. I'm sorry that I removed your contributions, but no one is exempt from content policies and guidelines. I removed that content as it is promotional, and I intent to remove all of the other promotional and unencyclopedic text that I have mentioned above. Furthermore, your comment "I'm not sure why you would sign up to be a reviewer if you will only delete article content and sources, making the article untenable.". Why would you say something like that? It's blatantly uncivil. We are here to discuss content and come to a informed consensus, not here to fight. To answer your rhetorical question, I requested New Page Reviewer permissions to help maintain the quality of articles that Wikipedia strives for. Your article had and still has significant promotional issues. I'd much rather have a solid stub than a promotional, but longer, article, and I'm sure you would too. I'm sorry for whatever offense I may have caused by removing your contributions, but from what seems to be community consensus after reviewing policies and Chrissymad's comment, I will remove the promotional material until we have established consensus here or on the article talk page. Thank you. Vermont | reply here 22:50, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The sources I used are reliable, independent, third party references, and you are claiming the opposite, that I used promotional content. Most of them didn't have anything negative to say about the game. It's just a good game, as reviewed by critics. A Reception section is not puffery, it's required for a notable video game article (see also WP:VG/CONTENT for more information). Deleting it wholesale because you deem it to be "puffery" suggests to me that you never checked the sources and still haven't, because they are unbiased reviewers and not advertisements. "Puffery" is when you advertise a game without merit, generally by not referencing your statements. I never said anything to the tune of "buy this now, it's great!" I simply restated the game's positive reception.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 23:36, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As for the part about "best racing game", I admit that was an oversight. However, there was a quote to that effect in one of the reviews, so I am not POV pushing. That can easily be added into the article.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 23:38, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Zxcvbnm: This, the main source for a lot of the "Reception" section, is a reliable, independent, third party reference? That is extremely unlikely. Furthermore, WP:VG/CONTENT (which you linked) states that "Articles on video games should give an encyclopedic overview of a game and its importance to the industry.". See my comments about the promotion in the lead, as I address that. Regarding the guidelines that state there should be a "Reception" section, I'll admit I was unaware of that. But, the reception section in Horizon Chase was more promotion than it was showing "the impact that the subject had on the game industry: commercially, artistically, and technologically." (from WP:VG/CONTENT). Please consider reviewing WP:VG/LRS. Judging from the tone of your response, it seems as though you are defending yourself rather than engaging in discussion. Yes, it's good to stand up for oneself, but remember that we are both here to try to make this encyclopedia as best as it can be. Thanks, Vermont | reply here 00:02, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bear with Me

Ah, thank you! I kept it under review while I resolved the salting with the admin who carried it out. I knew it was unsalted by then, but was considering not accepting. It still seems inclusion-worthy, I think. Thanks, Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 20:57, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've watchlisted it to make sure it's not changed in any way that would resemble the content that got it salted in the first place (repeated additions of unambiguous promotion). Understandable to keep it under review, although the page creator came to the #wikipedia-en-help IRC channel asking what was up, so I went ahead and accepted it. It seems fine now, although I don't expect it to be left in it's current state, judging from the amount of times the page was deleted. Vermont | reply here 20:59, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thanks. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 23:06, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Phillip Nunn

References.... It would probably help if you gave me longer than 3 minutes to finish the article.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-nunn https://cryptoconomysummit.com/speakers/phillip-nunn/ https://www.propertyfundsworld.com/2018/02/28/261700/uk-blockchain-expert-phillip-nunn-joins-evareium-ito-advisory-board https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/business/business-news/blackmore-group-moves-city-centre-12807751 https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/northwest/tag/Phillip+Nunn http://www.businesscloud.co.uk/news/bitcoin-value-to-reach-6000-and-60000-in-2018 https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockchain-platform-to-help-promising-athletes-to-jump-financial-hurdles https://www.cryptocynews.com/bitcoin-reach-6000-60000-year/ https://player.fm/series/cryptopulse/ep-14-an-interview-with-phillip-nunn https://foundico.com/ico/tv-two.html https://blog.evareium.io/evareium-advisory-team-announcement-8cd2f5fd1a8e https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockchain-platform-to-help-promising-athletes-to-jump-financial-hurdles https://sportyco.io/team.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhillipNunn (talkcontribs) 22:08, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@PhillipNunn: Yes, about that. Add sources and remove the tag. It's simply there until there are references, so that if references are not added we can remove it per BLP policy. Also, please remember to sign your posts using four ~'s. Happy editing! Vermont | reply here 22:11, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing brackets on PA House elections page

Thanks for catching and fixing that, I thought I caught it when I was doing that but I guess no all of them. Just a habit from when I'm doing wiki page links. Nevermore27 (talk) 06:47, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

:) Vermont | reply here 09:38, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adopt-A-User

Hi! I’m wondering whether you’d be willing to mentor me. Like you, I do a good deal of anti-vandal work. Centibyte(talk) 13:49, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Very sorry, I currently have an adoptee who is on a wikibreak until early April. I cannot take on another, but if there's anything I can help you with (understanding guidelines, questions, etc.) feel free to ask! Vermont | reply here 18:57, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Thanks anyhow! Centibyte(talk) 19:04, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vermont, I have moved Alessandro Nolli Brianzi and Twins of Evil: The Second Coming Tour to draft page Draft:Alessandro Nolli Brianzi and Draft:Twins of Evil: The Second Coming Tourand requested the main page copy to be deleted. As a review, how do you review a page where a page has no independent source to be found? Content added/edited in Wikipedia needs "inline citation" from independent (third party / secondary / tertiary) reliable source (in any language) for verification to gauge the nobility criteria is met. The articles's inline citation is the WP:BURDEN which it is on the person adding the information. Please note official website, records of sport events or individual player records are consider primary source and not independent source, and social network source such as facebook, twitter, instagram, imbd and etc are considered NOT reliable source and can not be used for citing. Independent reliable source are sources are those obtain from major newspaper, such as The Guardian, Sydney Morning Herald, CNN news and etc. or source obtain from major publisher of the work (for example, Random House or Cambridge University Press). Pls see

  1. reliable source - see WP:RS
  2. primary vs secondary vs tiartiary source - see WP:WPNOTRS
  3. verification - see WP:V
  4. notability - see WP:N

Here is the links for Patroler info, kindly read Wikipedia:New pages patrol. If a page is not satisfactory, pattroller could move to page to draft for creator further development of the page. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:28, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@CASSIOPEIA: I marked the articles as patrolled, as I am entirely sure that they will be deleted as cross namespace redirects. I was not judging the draft's content, which is what you apparently think I was doing, nor am I contesting your draftification of the articles. Thanks, and happy editing. Vermont | reply here 00:35, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I will further mention that page mover permissions would be very beneficial to you in draftifying articles in your new page patrolling. Vermont | reply here 00:38, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, If you deem the page will be redirect then do the redirect instead of marked reviewed and how about Alessandro Nolli Brianzi? a redirect is not the case here as the page most likely wont pass GNG. Kindly read the links I sent to you. I have moved the pages by the way as mentioned in the subject title. When a page is not satisfactory to be on main page the reveiwer could move the page to draft for creator to further develop the page such as adding sources. Thank you for your contribution. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:45, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@CASSIOPEIA: I don't think you see what I'm trying to say. I marked those pages as patrolled because you patrolled them by moving them to draft space and marked them to be deleted as R2's, which I am not contesting. This discussion is a bit needless. Vermont | reply here 00:55, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Vermont, I might misunderstand you, but I just pointed that if a page with NO source, how a pattroler reviews the page for verifying the content is from independent reliable source and to gauge of the meeting of notability - on what ground the review is based on? and not just reading a page and get mark patrolled. Anyway, thank you for you contributed time spent and assistance. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:03, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive

G'day all, please be advised that throughout April 2018 the Military history Wikiproject is running its annual backlog elimination drive. This will focus on several key areas:

  • tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
  • adding or improving listed resources on Milhist's task force pages
  • updating the open tasks template on Milhist's task force pages
  • creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the scope of military history will be considered eligible. This year, the Military history project would like to extend a specific welcome to members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red, and we would like to encourage all participants to consider working on helping to improve our coverage of women in the military. This is not the sole focus of the edit-a-thon, though, and there are aspects that hopefully will appeal to pretty much everyone.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 April and runs until 23:59 UTC on 30 April 2018. Those interested in participating can sign up here.

For the Milhist co-ordinators, AustralianRupert and MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Signpost issue 4 – 29 March 2018

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:National Rifle Association. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the vigilance re: copyright! I've discussed it with my students and we're all on the same page now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjovanovich (talkcontribs) 02:04, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Erastus W. Jewett, you added links pointing to the disambiguation pages St. Albans, Vermont and Swanton, Vermont (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver).

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 Done Vermont | reply here 09:19, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Work in progress

Hi Vermont,

I am currently working on the page, I will briefly update the data and add missing reference. Please do not delete the page.

Best Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaime Rossello (talkcontribs) 11:38, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jaime Rossello: Could I ask if you are writing about yourself? Thanks, Vermont | reply here 11:40, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Vermon: Yes, absolutely. I am, hope this does not goes against Wikipedia guidelines. Please let me know how I can improve this. Thank you.
@Jaime Rossello: Autobiographies are strongly discouraged. See WP:AUTOBIO. I'm afraid that there may not be enough reliable sources to make you notable. (see WP:NBIO) Vermont | reply here 11:56, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Anne Gamble Kennedy

The spelling "Anne" is correct as it appears on her birth certificate. "Ann" has appeared in some articles, but it is incorrect.Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:02, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As you evidently have her birth certificate, could I ask your connection with the subject? Thanks, Vermont | reply here 22:04, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please explain to me what the problem is with this article? As I have explained to other editors, Anne Gamble Kennedy was concertizing in the 1940s and 50s. As an African-American, her concerts were not always covered by the white press. I have seen and handled the actual programs of her concerts, but finding references to them online is very difficult. Archives from African-American newspapers are not always available. I have included the links I could find. FYI - her hundreds of students are waiting to see this article, as is the National Fisk University Alumni Association. Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is an explanation of the draft's issues in my decline reason at Draft:Anne Gamble Kennedy. I will stress that your repeated creation (and subsequent deletion) of Anne Gamble Kennedy has not helped. Now, I understand that she was not covered widely by the "white press", but that is not an excuse to bypass WP:RS and other reference-related guidelines. Furthermore, it does not matter how many people are waiting for this article to be on the mainspace (in this case). It does not grant the ability to go around Wikipedia's community consensus. I think that the article can be written, but you are going to need to remove the unsourced content. Vermont | reply here 02:02, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is also the sexism question. If she had not been married to the director of the Fisk Jubilee Singers, who knows if that would have freed her up to pursue her own solo career? So many women make this sacrifice. But Anne Gamble Kennedy is undeniably a major part of American musical history. It's just a shame that her race makes her almost invisible. Which content exactly should be removed? I don't know what you mean by "unsourced." It seems every time I Google her, there are more entries. Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:30, 8 April 2018 (UTC) And how do I reference a funeral program? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina07011960 (talkcontribs) 05:29, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Train graveyard

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Train graveyard. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CXLIIV, April 2018

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William Cook (Ontario Alliance)

Hi Vermont, New to all this. What do you have to do to make it "Notable"? BGOS 62