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Origin
First off, just a question. Why am I the one being told to "take it to the talk page" when the origin has stated Ukraine for a very long time until someone just tried to remove it. Secondly, why is there even a discussion on this. Per Template:Infobox musical artist: "The town, city etc., from which the group or musician originated (that is, the place where the group was founded, or where individual performer started their career, should it not match the location of their birth). If the place is not known, specify at least the country. Do not add a flag icon. Omit the country if it does not differ from that specified at the field "birth_place"." Ukraine is the exact answer to this prompt for Jamala. There is no reason why this shouldn't be included. { [ ( jjj1238 ) ] } 17:30, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies, I indeed did not realize that I removed the field which indeed was in the article for a long time, and I should have started the discussion. Having said this, I do not see any sense in having Ukraine in this field. She is a Ukrainian citizen, and she lived in Ukraine since independence, which means this is a tautology. Adding there a city (whether this is Simferopol or Kiev) could make sense and give some useful information, but I do not think we have sources for this (we actually even do not have sources for Ukraine but presume it should be it).--Ymblanter (talk) 19:33, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It is okay, but there really is no basis to remove Ukraine. Ukraine fits the exact definition of what origin is used for, since where she began her career is drastically different from where she was born. A casual reader may be confused as to what makes her Ukrainian and not have the time to read the entire "early life" section of the article. Putting Ukraine in origin gives a quick explanation that her career originated in Ukraine. Without putting Ukraine in origin, it makes it seem as if she's a Kyrgyz singer or something. If we find the city she grew up in that'd make things even better, but I don't think we have a source for that. { [ ( jjj1238 ) ] } 19:47, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"forcefully resettled"
The correct English term here is "forcibly" ("forcefully" means something else) - a very common error on Wikipedia. Unfortunately I can't alter this without damaging the link.213.127.210.95 (talk) 16:06, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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