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Revert the obliteration of the artist's name

The recent edit changing all occurrences of "Kanye" to "Ye" seems more motivated to promote records than to communicate information. This article differs from Snoop Dogg, Prince (musician), or any other many-named performer's article in that his legal name is all but hidden from view (it appears only once in the infobox). Please consider rv'ing or at least making the article consistent with the rest of them.198.179.125.170 (talk) 17:58, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A seperate article for "Go Getters"?

A group that Kanye was in prior to fame, it seems to have quite a bit of info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThePSGenius (talk • contribs) 12:02, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The name "Ye"

Let's get this out of the way now: Woodloch and others, regarding this, we will not be using "Ye" as his name throughout this article. Per WP:Common name, we will not be retitling this article to "Ye." And even if we did, it would need to be disambiguated because of the other Ye meanings. Look at the Snoop Dogg article. Snoop Dogg at one point went by "Snoop Lion." We did not change the name of that Wikipedia article to Snoop Lion (and, yes, there was discussion about it). Look at Sean Combs, who has a number of different popular stage names. "Ye" is not even yet popular for West, and it's not his legal name. Yes, as seen here and here, Sandstein recently added mention of the Ye name. And with WP:Recentism in mind, we will see how the Ye name plays out and if it needs a mention in the lead, but a mention is different than using the name throughout the article or changing the article's title. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:08, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Flyer22 Reborn I don't equally think it's right to have the name changed as it is not a legally binding decision, except for a tweet. However, don't you think it's best if we let others weigh in on this? 6Packs (talk) 08:55, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

6Packs, they are free to weigh in here. But WP:Common name is policy, and we are also supposed to be consistent with using the common name throughout the article. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 20:16, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Flyer22 got it it right, I think. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:09, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If not per COMMONNAME then certainly per COMMONSENSE, The article shouldn't be changed to something utterly stupid just because he seemingly cannot be bothered to say and spell his full name. –Davey2010^Talk 21:17, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion of the topic is also seen at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Kanye West Name Change. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:25, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's called a stage name and many hip hop artists use them. AdA&D ★ 15:40, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Premature is an understatement. If this sticks and reliable sources by and large call him by this new name, then a name change should be in consideration, but not any time soon. Lapadite (talk) 08:32, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world", "Seek and ye shall find", "Ye olde"... Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:49, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It currently says "Ye".[1] I didn't know about this before. 173.228.123.166 (talk) 20:00, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Joking) I'm told he's doing an xmas tour, and sending out an invitation for his regular attendees to get discount tickets. It begins "O come, all Ye faithful...". I'll see myself out. 173.228.123.166 (talk) 22:06, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

He could perform at Ye Olde Fighting Cocks. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:32, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So, do we agree on removing "Ye" from the lead? The mention of it in the article is tiny. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:26, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the lede as "Kanye West, also known as Ye..." for the time being. I think there's a clear consensus for keeping the article name unchanged. Anywikiuser (talk) 14:09, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 October 2018

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79.97.102.190 (talk) 17:17, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 19:27, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Controversies / Politics

some potential new content for article:

In October 2018, West met with President Donald Trump and Jim Brown in Washington, DC at the White House and shared a lunch meal with them. During the meeting in the Oval Office West hugged Trump and stated, "if he don’t look good, we don’t look good, This is our president! He has to be the freshest, the fly-est, the fly-est planes, the best factories."

CNN Segment Calls Kanye 'Token Negro', 'Attention Whore', and 'What Happens When Negroes Don't Read' CNN allowed this kind of language and [redacted] laughed! Social media users were quick to call this segment what it is: racism. This occured the evening prior to the day West had a meeting with President Trump on 10/11/2018 in the Oval Office.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-11/kanye-s-lunch-with-trump-adidas-and-hydrogen-powered-planes

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2018/10/11/cnn-segment-calls-kanye-token-negro-attention-whore-and-what-happens-when-negroes-dont-read-n2527459

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/kanye-west-segment-on-cnn-labeled-racist-for-calling-singer-token-negro-of-the-trump-administration

~ Bought the farm (talk) 16:35, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

highly covered by media, 'Token Negro', 'Attention Whore', and 'What Happens When Negroes Don't Read' - if that's the standard on Wikipedia.. ~ Bought the farm (talk) 02:05, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bought the farm, "if that's the standard on Wikipedia"--what on earth do you mean? What is the antecedent for "that"? And I'm sure you noticed I redacted a BLP violation. Drmies (talk) 02:44, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, Thanx for that!!! I recently posted on the Brett Kavanaugh BLP wiki and the justification [by others] for inclusion of certain content was being justified, and argued/accepted, just for being mainstream broadcast media coverage by "RS". ~ Bought the farm (talk) 03:09, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate universes

Looks like he has some issues. This should be mentioned in the article: " "So there's a theory that -- there's infinite amounts of universe and there's alternate universe so it's very important for me to get [Larry] Hoover out, because in an alternate universe, I am him and I have to go and get him free." No words. Also, Hoover is the founder of a Chicago gang, who is currently serving six consecutive life sentences in a supermax prison in Colorado. West had advocated for Hoover's release before -- most notably wearing a "Free Hoover" sweatshirt during a recent "Saturday Night Live" appearance." ref. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/11/politics/kanye-west-donald-trump/index.html 91.83.10.183 (talk) 00:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe all he has are opinions - YOU may have the issues?? RU inciting a left wing lunacy? Lets talk.. ~ Bought the farm (talk) 02:34, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Republican

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Lead

The lead seems a little too long maybe the big second paragraph belongs later in the article such as early life, and discography. Also it sounds a little bit too promotional maybe its best if you just state accolades, no need to compare to other artists, or make such a big deal out of them, it makes the article feel weighted. thanks, DANIELTHEDON (talk) 14:30, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]